home
***
CD-ROM
|
disk
|
FTP
|
other
***
search
/
The 640 MEG Shareware Studio 4
/
The 640 Meg Shareware Studio CD-ROM Volume IV (Data Express)(1994).ISO
/
fidomail
/
pconnect.t04
< prev
next >
Wrap
Text File
|
1994-02-26
|
754KB
|
18,418 lines
q'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got
> JB> your ABOUT file in return...
>
> I'll put it on hold for you. I don't know why so many people are
> getting it and some don't?
Thanks, Terry...
POLL aCommin'....
--==jb==--
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: gated by sandbox.nova.com (1:147/34)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 2112
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/13/94 10:23p
Subj: FILE ANNOUNCEMENT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> "When are you going to make an OS/2 version?"
>
> Go away. Use your DOS box. :-)
I loved this line. Just for that I'll have to have a look at psort. Incoming
FREQ.
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LYON Number: 2113
To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/13/94 1:09p
Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail.
You should be flogged with a wet noddle for at least 15 mins! :)
--- WM v3.10/92-0069
* Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TODD LYONS Number: 2114
To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/13/94 12:29p
Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TL> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail.
> Hope da dingy is fixed, gets old deleting messages out of front door.
> By the way what was it anayway.
Forward-for all
Except 1:3615/50
I added the second line and it quit routing them all back to Boyd. If they're
still coming in then it's no longer my fault :) That's assuming that my
return-routed netmail even made it past 3615/50 to 3615/51.
See ya Todd
--- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM
* Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2115
To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/13/94 5:30p
Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest are
> various ways to reach me.
> Besides the fact that you are not the moderator, and I have not see any
> rules against any "SIGNATURE FILE" in this or any fido echo!
Michael,
It's not a matter of "the rules" banning signature files or excessive quoting,
for that matter, it's just plain manners. I read echos for information, and in
some cases, entertainment. Excess baggage in messages detracts severely from
both, IMO. We don't really need all those "various ways to reach" you, either,
all we need is a Fido address, as we're all in FidoNet.
Let's extrapolate a bit: What if everyone, in every conference, added all that
crap, starting with the top of the message:
"On Jan. 11, Michael Pierce mumbled to Foxy Ferguson:" (Isn't this information
in the message header displayed on your board? It is on mine.)
And ended with a signature file similar to yours? That would add immensely to
the traffic volume, and to what purpose? NONE!
And, I frankly don't CARE with the Usenet/Internet newsgroups have in their
message headers. I've seen that stuff, and feel exactly the same way about it.
Until getting my PC setup, I paid serious money every single month to the TelCo
to import echomail for our Net. Much of that money was wasted, simply hauling
around garbage such as your "signature file". Many people are still handling
echomail via TelCo, and are STILL paying to transport that overhead. What you
are saying in essence is, "I am vain, and I'm going to attach my signature file
to every message, and I don't CARE *what* it costs you. Tough!"
--- FLAME v1.0/b
* Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2116
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/13/94 5:33p
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
> If you don't use some kind of disk cache, the hd light will blink at
> the same rate as the blocks being recieved.
> To avoid this (and make hd last longer) install a disk cache and set
Joe,
I don't think I'd worry about it. First of all, it's probably not going to
affect your HD life to any great degree, and one reason is that the writes
mostly involve NO mechanical head movement if you're running on a dedicated
machine. It is a bit different, of course, if you're multi-tasking.
--- FLAME v1.0/b
* Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM BELLAART Number: 2117
To: JUSTIN MCDERMID Date: 01/13/94 2:38a
Subj: Dish size Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Justin!
11 Jan 94, Justin Mcdermid writes to All:
JM> Does anyone in Canada run a C band receiver setup with the Planet connect
JM> setup and if so, what size dish? I have access to a 9' dish and was
JM> wondering if it would work at my latitude. I'm in the sunny Okanagan city
JM> of Vernon, BC. just a bit north of Kelowna. Thanks.
I've got an eight foot spun dish here Justin and it's working great since I
installed the receiver last week.
Please say hello to Jake Block (of 1:353/370) for me! :-)
Tim
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: EXCESS - CALGARY, AB CANADA (403)285-7338 (HST-DS16.8) (1:134/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2118
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/14/94 8:04a
Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thursday January 13 1994 03:07, John Lyon wrote to Fred Seibel:
-> -> ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE me
-> -> ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, be
-> -> ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why
-> -> ->> these?
-> ->>
-> ->> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now.
-> ->>
-> ->>
->>
->> Ditto,
->> Two days in a row now.
->>
->> BUT, the probelm that this causes is that
->> my system wanted to send them to George Peace
->> at Protostar!!
->>
->> Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up,
->> FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!!
JL> Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again today!
JL> This is about 6 days in a row!
JL> -+- WM v3.10/92-0069
JL> + Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0)
Hello John!
knock on wood.. :-)
So far all Wed 12th and Thur. 13 mail bundles have process ok on my system
without any problem.. and Wed was a BIG load of mail...
I still don't really know what cause the corruption of my Message base on the
10th and 11th, except that PCUTILS allowed several Bad Bundles of Mail with CRC
Errors to be moved to my TOSS Directory...
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILLY MORING Number: 2119
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/14/94 1:18a
Subj: Test export Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd,
This is a test of my export setup... If this makes it back to Skyboard, please
send a reply to me, so I will know my export is working...
Thanks
Billy Moring
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: Moring Computer's Systems (904)376-9894*Gainesville, FL (1:3601/20)
(1:3601/20)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON BUCHANAN Number: 2120
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/13/94 7:58p
Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hey Boyd! what's up?
In a msg of <Sunday January 09 1994 - 23:41>,
Boyd Goodin wrote to Rudy Hehn about "Sorting":
BG> The "LOCK" will not work under OS2.
When when-oh-when will it? I'd give my left tnu to go back to OS/2...
* Origin: Inside Ok! - +1-417-624-0000 - Joplin, MO USA - (1:286/702)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2121
To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 01/14/94 8:02a
Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Craig Clark wrote in a message to Rudy Hehn:
CC> could help? I'm in the support business, and Lantastic is
CC> one of the products we sell and support.
I am not familiar with Lans at all. I currently use Fastwire to move files from
one machine to another. Will Lantastic connect an IBM PS/2 Model 50 to a clone?
Or, is ther any other Lan that will do this?
Regards,
Robert
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2122
To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 5:42a
Subj: New Subscriber Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've noticed a lack of messages on this echo in the past week or so. I've just
ordered the KU kit and I hope you guys are still around to help when I take
delivery.... :-)
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2123
To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 5:41p
Subj: AD file areas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Boy, that topic sure died a quick death! Have the AD file areas started coming
in yet, so we great unwashed can get some programmer names to contact?
Rick
--- GoldED 2.41+
* Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 2124
To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 11:40a
Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever posted (except this one)
have *ALL* had the signature file attached!
If I was posting without one, then added one, you *might* have a reason to
complain. you people really show a lack of brains or understanding when it
comes to software! I see why you have soooooooooo many problems getting your
feed setup correctly!
I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator (thanks you jerks!)
this will be my last post in this echo so don't waist the message to respond!
--- xMail 1.00/Pro
* Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2125
To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/14/94 2:29p
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD> Joe,
JD> I don't think I'd worry about it. First of all, it's probably not
JD> going to affect your HD life to any great degree, and one reason is
JD> that the writes mostly involve NO mechanical head movement if you're
JD> running ona dedicated machine. It is a bit different, of course, if
JD> you're multi-tasking.
Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I can't see how
you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a second isn't much
different that once every few minutes.
Apart from the mechanical movement of the accuator arm, the heads draw a small
amount of current each time they are written with.
I suppose you could (in a VERY broad term) say it was like switching a light
bulb on/off 3 times a second versus 1 time a minute?? I know Light bulbs and
Drive heads are different.
I find that seeing the hd light only blinking when the entire file is written
makes me feel a lot better..
Anyone else got any input??
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2126
To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 01/14/94 12:57p
Subj: Crc Errors Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Foxy!
In a message to Joe Lyda <01/13/94> Foxy Ferguson wrote:
FF> JL>Hello Foxy!
FF> How do, Joe. Nice to hear from neighbors. <g>
FF> JL>In a message to Dave Osborne <01/10/94> Foxy Ferguson wrote:
FF> JL>FF> chuckle... anybody for Dr.Dos 7 ?
FF> JL> Is it out yet?
FF> Not 'sfar as I know. I'm looking for it.
Me too. It sounds promising as a operating system though.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * PUT THE COMPUTER DOWN, HONEY..I'm quitting NOW!
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2127
To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/14/94 1:01p
Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Todd!
In a message to Joe Lyda <01/13/94> Todd Lyons wrote:
TL> > TL> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail
TL> > Hope da dingy is fixed, gets old deleting messages out of front door.
TL> > By the way what was it anayway.
TL> Forward-for all
TL> Except 1:3615/50
TL> I added the second line and it quit routing them all back to Boyd. If th
TL> still coming in then it's no longer my fault :) That's assuming that my
TL> return-routed netmail even made it past 3615/50 to 3615/51.
TL> See ya Todd
Well I hope everyone can have the same success you have. Thanks.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * Sometimes you just have to say 'What the heck'
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LYON Number: 2128
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/14/94 7:06a
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages,
-> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't
-> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you
-> know what that does to message pointers (g).....
Delete them with WCpro (if you have it) it works fine that way for
me.
--- WM v3.10/92-0069
* Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 2129
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/14/94 9:47p
Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Terry Blount scripted in a message to Jim St. John:
TB> Normally the ">" or ">>" will redirect _everything_
TB> that is written to the screen to a file....
DOS's redirect functions > and >> will direct everything that goes to stdout;
anything destined to stderr still goes to the screen. I'm still looking for a
way to redirect the stderr stream ...
... Remus ...
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2130
To: KERRY SUTLEY Date: 01/14/94 9:13p
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kerry Sutley wrote in a message to All:
KS> Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either
KS> convert them to Fido msg format to be processed by my
KS> tosser (GECHO) or a stand alone that will do both. Any
Try Fred19Q.Arj ...... Fredgate will handle it and there are other options but
none I've found to be easier while still doing a good job of conversion.
Regards,
Dan W.
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2131
To: KERRY SUTLEY Date: 01/14/94 9:52a
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kerry Sutley babbled profusely in a message to All:
KS> Hi Boyd and All,
KS> Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either
KS> convert them to Fido msg format to be processed by my
KS> tosser (GECHO) or a stand alone that will do both. Any
KS> Ideas out there???
The usenet/fidonet gateway software I wrote is still in beta, and currently
stands at a version number of ".96".. It does handle the .BAG format (which is
really .x/.d files minux the .x file). If you're interested, file request
"GIGO" from 1:203/7707.
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12a
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2132
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 9:50p
Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Jim St. John to Don Waybright it was said:
-> I had thought that UseNet was already being provided via PC. From wh
JSJ> They will begin gradually and ramp it up over time.
JSJ> They will carry "90-95%" of the newsgroups, but probably
JSJ> not the 'x-rated' stuff.
JSJ> They are still working on a pricing structure for folks
JSJ> who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff.
Thanks very much for the reply. Again, I am rareing to go on this. I have
sent Boyd Goodin a NetMail message with a few questions and I have sent the PC
people a FAX with the same questions. --- How long to you think it will be
until I hear from them?
How did the overall setup go with your system?
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2133
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/13/94 9:56p
Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Bill Roper to Don Waybright it was said:
BR> in your tosser you set up an AKA of 1:3615/51... your
BR> UPLINK is 1:3615/50, and yes, you get back into the system
BR> by the
BR> traditional method of enriching Ma Bell... back to PC at
BR> 1:3615/50..... and you do kill your conventional hub, but
BR> you still need to poll periodically for routed netmail....
Great... this clear up alot... So it looks like 1:3615/50 will be going on "Yea
ole Friends & Family" soon.
BR> only one configuration... the aka allows the incoming stuff
BR> to come into your system...
Gotcha!
-> 4) Could someone give me a basic rundown on how this system works? W
-> have my mailer error out for and event and fire up software to run PC
-> receive my feed? Also i am running two nodes under DV, Does that pr
-> problem?
BR> that's exactly what I do, except I do it on a LAN...
Ok... sounds like a plan and i am glad to hear it works well on the LAN for you
for that will be my next little project after this one (Yea so far it looks
like I am going to make the plunge... I sent PC a Fax... Hope they got it and
will respond soon with additional info... mayeb a follow up call would be a
good idea)
BR> I don't think you will be disappointed...
Sounds like I won't. If I could trouble you could I ask how "Easy" it was to
get the system up and running once the equipment arrived? Any tips for the
really newcomers!? <g>
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 2134
To: JOHN BURTON Date: 01/13/94 6:19p
Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
John Burton, in a message to Terry Blount, you wrote:
> GV> it helped create a File.bbs for those 64 APOGEE files that
> GV> were orphanded :-)
>
> Glad you found it useful ...it took me all day to write it.
JB> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got
JB> your ABOUT file in return...
John,
You weren't the only one...:-)
John
--- ---
* Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2135
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/14/94 9:48a
Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
George Vandervort wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
GV> you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a
GV> Magic name for File Request..
Yes... there is a bug in my docs! I must have been falling asleep by the time
I finished writing the program and started with the docs. I have set it up so
it will come by asking for almost anything. <g>
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2136
To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/14/94 9:51a
Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT:
JL> Well try this and it will work to the file but no echo to
JL> screen
JL> arj l *.sdn *.diz >> outfile
That command does not show the contents of the *.diz file so the description is
not witten to the outfile... only the file name.
Try this on a .zip file and then look at the outfile to see what is needed when
I use Arj.
pkunzip /c * *.diz >> outfile
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 2137
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/12/94 9:11p
Subj: Re: Hooray! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
JH>Anyone ever notice how the files are written to the hard drive?
JH>If you don't use some kind of disk cache, the hd light will blink at
JH>the same rate as the blocks being recieved.
JH>To avoid this (and make hd last longer) install a disk cache and set
JH>the Long write delay to maximum (or a large number) that way it will
JH>not attempt to write to the hard drive until the file has been TOTALY
JH>recieved.. I use Lancache here with excellent results.
JH>Set LONG_WRITE_DELAY=3600
That looks like a very good solution to my problem. I am running a 286
for the planet, and it writes to the 486 hardrive. I only have one meg
of ram, but do have two simm slots. How big of a cache_size are you
setting? Could I get away with this with 2 more meg? Also, I read that
only the dedicated server should have this. I am running both machines
as servers, but if I only read the drive that gets written too with
the 486..I suspect I should be safe. Any opinion on
that? I'm new to Lan,but love it.
[Jeff]
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2138
To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 01/15/94 11:49a
Subj: FILE ANNOUNCEMENT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tracy Mickley babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
> "When are you going to make an OS/2 version?"
>
> Go away. Use your DOS box. :-)
TM> I loved this line. Just for that I'll have to have a look at
TM> psort. Incoming FREQ.
Give me another day, and there will be an OS/2 version (another sysop ported it
for me). :-) I'm getting the final tweaks on the sorting done now, to handle
various situations on split usenet messages.
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12a
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2139
To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/15/94 11:57a
Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest are
> various ways to reach me.
JD> It's not a matter of "the rules" banning signature files or
JD> excessive quoting, for that matter, it's just plain manners.
...
JD> overhead. What you are saying in essence is, "I am vain, and
JD> I'm going to attach my signature file to every message, and
JD> I don't CARE *what* it costs you. Tough!"
Another way to look at it. There are, for sake of argument, 700 long distance
links. Actually, far more, but these are just the number of nets. I'm not
going to count all of the long distance nodes within a net (we only have about
a _dozen_ in ours alone), if you don't count the (comparatively) few number of
P_C sites.
Now, your extensive signature, each time you write your message, adds close to
another 1k. Granted, that's small at high speed. But globally, multiply that
by about 700. Okay, 700k ain't _quite_ as small. In US phone rates, which are
the cheapest in the world for the most part, that's going to translate to an
additional $1.50, for every extensive signature that's 10 yards long.
Mind if we bill ya?
The reason we gripe is because when there are more than just _you_ doing it, it
starts adding up quite heavily. Anyone moving the mail and paying for it knows
it.
Jason Fesler
--- timEd-A12a
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2140
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/15/94 11:26p
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-> Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I can'
-> you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a second isn't muc
-> different that once every few minutes.
-> Apart from the mechanical movement of the accuator arm, the heads dra
-> amount of current each time they are written with.
I agree with the original response. If you're not multi-tasking, then
the drive isn't going to be seeking all over the place, and writing once
per block doesn't involve any more head movement than if you cached.
The current drawn by the head isn't really significant, I have never
heard of a head burning out! In any case it's still 'six of one', you
are writiing the same number of sectors overall, whether it's 1-2 at a
time, or all at once.
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2141
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/15/94 11:47p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jason,
I tried your psort program, and it works very well. For my purposes, I like
the idea of being able to delete unwanted messages from the packets rather than
have to delete them later. Since I'm using Maximus with OS/2 it takes a VARY
LONG TIME to delete the unwanted messages (unlike DOS where it's almost
instant). However, I don't like the idea of having to copy AREAS.BBS to the
mail directory to accomplish this. Could you be persuaded to spend the 2 1/2
to 5 minutes needed to allow the program to read an optional command line and
find the AREAS.BBS in it's normal location? BTW, your program does work in a
DOS box in OS/2, but it doesn't trigger the DOS box like a normal DOS program.
You have to make the DOS box first before it will run, so in order to get it to
work you have to call it from a DOS .BAT file using the batch file to trigger
the DOS box.
My impression is that you are using Watcom to program with. Doesn't Watcom do
OS/2?? If you need an OS/2 compiler, have you looked at the GNU EMX C/C++
compiler? You can turn out Family programs that run in both DOS & OS/2, and it
offers a DOS Extender (and it's free!). With C it's a VERY short road from DOS
to OS/2, especialy when no interface is involved (a matter of minutes).
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2142
To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/15/94 3:56a
Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->
-> Its only restricted in the sense that it is a 'for your eyes only' if
-> PC downlink.
->
All is fixed.
Thanks for the tip.
--- WM v3.10/91-0063
* Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2143
To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 01/15/94 3:57a
Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Rots a ruck....!
->
-> Regards.....Murray
All fixed.
Thanks!!
Fred
--- WM v3.10/91-0063
* Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2144
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/15/94 3:59a
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again today!
-> This is about 6 days in a row!
->
I spoke to Boyd voice.
He's working on it.
Fred
--- WM v3.10/91-0063
* Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2145
To: ALBERT GAYLORD Date: 01/15/94 4:01a
Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> They got delivered here both times to the same point, 1:105/40.44 I
-> haven't heard a peep out of him. I didn't say anything because I was
-> how long it would take him to ask me about it.
->
-> Albert
OK. Someone get the bug spray out.
I have a broom.
Somone get a dust pan.
Anyone out there have and empty 40 cyd roll off??
Fred
--- WM v3.10/91-0063
* Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2146
To: BOB FRADY Date: 01/15/94 4:06a
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Same here, I'm running Wildcat BBS software and am unable to delete t
-> from my message base. I get a database error stating that there is an
-> invalid key (index) to the database. I wind up checking my netmail ar
-> for anything new that is valid and hasn't been sent off yet, moving i
-> to another conference and deleting all files associated with my netma
-> area and letting it build a new one them moving the valid messages ba
-> so they can go out. It's really a pain. If I don't, the next time I
-> collect all outgoing mail, it'll pick them up and send them on
-> downstream, repeatedly. It doesn't catch that they've already been se
-> either.
->
-> I've learned to check my netmail area daily after the mail has been
-> processed to keep from sending these back to the backbone.
->
-> Bob
Hmm.... Guess I'm luckey then!!
I run WC too, but am also the Nhub for my net.
I use SQUISH on that system and it seems to
"pull" all the grunged messages out and toss them into
that system. Thus, I am able to send "clean" bundles
to the rest of the net.
Wanna link in ?? :)
Fred
--- WM v3.10/91-0063
* Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2147
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 01/15/94 1:37p
Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BR> 1:3615/50..... and you do kill your conventional hub, but
-> BR> you still need to poll periodically for routed netmail....
->
->
-> Great... this clear up alot... So it looks like 1:3615/50 will be goi
-> ole Friends & Family" soon.
you won't be spending a great deal of time online with them, as
the traffic going back to them will probably take just a minute
or two to send.... and MCI turns out to be more expensive than
my Sprint Select plan.... just received a $30.00 check from
MCI (cash it and they change your phone to their service....)
so I called and talked quite awhile with them...
and then cashed the check... I have 6 lines into the house,
so changed the one that I never make ld calls on (g)....
-> will respond soon with additional info... mayeb a follow up call woul
-> good idea)
VERY good idea....
-> Sounds like I won't. If I could trouble you could I ask how "Easy" i
-> get the system up and running once the equipment arrived? Any tips f
-> really newcomers!? <g>
I already had a satellite system, and being somewhat technical in
that field anyway, didn't have any problems at all... put a
splitter in the line off the LNB (the $20.00 splitter they want
to sell you cost me $4.50....), ran a piece of RG59 (no... I
didn't use RG6) to the room with the computers, plugged it in
to the data receiver, cable from the receiver to a serial port
on the computer, installed the software and configured it (that
took all of 3 minutes...), put the satellite on G3 (odd numbered
transponder) and started receiving data.....
it really is pretty simple, Don...
cheers..
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2148
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/15/94 1:37p
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages,
-> -> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't
-> -> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you
-> -> know what that does to message pointers (g).....
->
-> Delete them with WCpro (if you have it) it works fine that way fo
-> me.
found that out the last day we got the grunged stuff, John....
thanks for the input..
cheers..
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2149
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 01/15/94 2:15p
Subj: New Subscriber Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I've noticed a lack of messages on this echo in the past week or so.
-> ordered the KU kit and I hope you guys are still around to help when
-> delivery.... :-)
Hi, Fred.... long time no talk-to....
I think John Woodward is online, and a local call is always
better than echomail (g)....
cheers...
Bill (K5IF)....
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2150
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/15/94 2:19p
Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH> I am not familiar with Lans at all. I currently use
RH> Fastwire to move files from one machine to another.
RH> Will Lantastic connect an IBM PS/2 Model 50 to a clone?
Sure will; the least expensive product is Lantastic-Z which works over serial
or parallel ports and requires no extra hardware. Moving up from there you
would purchase an ethernet starter kit which has all the s/w, h/w and cables
for a two-workstation LAN. If you will be moving a considerable amount of
files/messages back and forth you will want the ethernet version as it is much
faster.
Lantastic-Z will work on Micochannel, ISA or EISA as it just uses the serial or
parallel ports. For ethernet, you can get Microchannel, ISA or EISA boards.
-=- Craig.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2151
To: BILLY MORING Date: 01/15/94 10:28p
Subj: Test export Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Billy!
In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/14/94> Billy Moring wrote:
BM> Boyd,
BM> This is a test of my export setup... If this makes it back to Skyboard, p
BM> send a reply to me, so I will know my export is working...
BM> Thanks
BM> Billy Moring
It did not make it here.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * ██▓▓▒▒░░ IN STEREO WHERE AVAILABLE ░░▒▒▓▓██
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 2152
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/14/94 3:23p
Subj: DATES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd, Looking at my Index files, it seems that the DATE is correct but the DAY
is wrong. This happened about the 1st of the year !
Any thoughts ?
Regards
Jerry
--- TMail v1.31
* Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2153
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/14/94 4:58p
Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd, it seems we have a little problem here.
On 20 Dec, PTCCMAIN notified us, for the first time, that we had 3 days
remaining on our subscription. I spoke with someone at Planet Connect the
same day who basically could barely manage to identify himself over the phone
and was therefore unable to provide us with the necessary information to renew
our subscription, nor did he have authorization to renew our subscription
according to this gentleman. The following day, we faxed a copy of our
contract to your offices @ 3:07pm and received confirmation of it's receipt,
(and yes, we do have the originals as well as the confirmation report). The
following day, we called to confirm that it had been received and to get our
subscription renewal code. Fortunately, we spoke with you and all was taken
care of. So we thought.
Sometime this AM, the satellite machine errored out and ptccmain would not
re-load, kept saying that our subscription was expired (security error) and
wouldn't do anything. There was absolutely *NO* warning that our subscription
was nearing it's expiration and since we renewed our subscription with you on
the 22nd of last month for a 1 yr subscription we had no reason to believe
that this might occur.
We spoke with Dan a few minutes ago who told us the
following:
- Our subscription had not been renewed because my Visa card expired 12/93
(They don't expire until the last day of the month, and at any rate, why
were we not notified of this? It isn't as though the people at your
office were unable to send netmail.)
- Dan then asked if we had reset our clock.
- Our contract specified a yearly subscription, yet according to Dan, the
subscription code you issued us on the 21st was for 53 days, retroactive
to 15 Nov. and *should* have expired on the 7th of this month. The code
he initially gave us was for a 3 month subscription. When we queried
him as to why we had to renew our yearly subscription every 3 months he
re-checked our contract and issued us a subscription code for the period
of 1 year.
Now, my question to you as a representative of Planet Connect, is if this
is the type of service we can expect from your company?
If there is a problem processing someone's payment for a subscription, I
don't think it's too much to ask that your subscriber, or potential subscriber
as the case may be, be notified of it so that the necessary actions can be
taken. This helps to contribute to keeping customer satisfaction high as well
as the added benefit of ensuring that your company is paid for it's services.
Also, it's maddening to call your company only to speak with individuals
who apparently are not knowledgeable about your services and/or are not
authorized to make a decision or take effective action at the time of the
call.
And last, but certainly not least, there is apparently no effective form
of organization at Planet Connect as evidenced by the fact that on occasions
when I have called & spoken with some of the others they were unable to find
any information regarding our subscription. This does not speak well of your
company, Boyd, nor project a very encouraging picture of your services.
For the most part, we've been very happy with the services of Planet
Connect and have endorsed it to it's fullest, but I am dismayed and extremely
unhappy with the most recent state of affairs. Please tell me that this will
improve in the near future, Boyd. Lie if you must.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2154
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/15/94 4:31p
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Kerry Sutley:
JF> The usenet/fidonet gateway software I wrote is still in
JF> beta, and currently stands at a version number of ".96"..
JF> It does handle the .BAG format (which is really .x/.d files
JF> minux the .x file). If you're interested, file request
JF> "GIGO" from 1:203/7707.
Hi Jason.
I've been using fred and haven't tried GIGO yet. You are the author?
How does it compare to fred in utility? Does you package convert back and
forth between usenet and fidonet packets and also handle net/email? How
difficult is it to set up, configure, and administer?
Regards,
Dan W.
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2155
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/27/93 9:33p
Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya.
I believe the author says it best:
"Arrogant hackers do it for free..."
BinkleyTerm platforms:
Atari
DOS
OS/2
Unix (Linux atleast)
NT
No one else comes close...8-) <ducking>
---
* Origin: From a wanna be laptop... (1:380/14.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2156
To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 6:41a
Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? They
> showed up on the bird over this last weekend.
>
> 2-BBS
> 2-PIC
> 2-WINDOW
They should be in your Filebone.na list dated 12-29-93, Dave. They are
part of the 2nd Tier SDN areas that will apparently be coming over the
satellite now.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2157
To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 6:44a
Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya.
>
> Heyyyyyyyy, when you got the best, why switch. :-)
Oh, are you running InterMail now also, Dave? <g>
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: Tried the rest, now run the best: InterMail 2.25 (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2158
To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 12/30/93 6:49a
Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BinkleyTerm platforms:
>
> Atari
> DOS
> OS/2
> Unix (Linux atleast)
> NT
You forgot Amiga, Eddie.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: So, like, what's your point? (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2159
To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/31/93 12:21p
Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TVAgent you sent out, but the shutter door was crsuh off of the diskette
> itself. I'm able to run the disk, but it has no protection. Could I get
> you to send another copy? I can send the old disk back if you wish.
Why not cannabalize an old 720k disk and use it to replace everything
with? Would be a whole lot faster and simpler than sending the old one back
and then waiting for a new one.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2160
To: DAVID WROBEL Date: 01/06/94 9:04p
Subj: Re: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> instead of Echomail - They said you have to make them *ALL* passthru in
> order for Tick to 'ADD' areas as passthru when it autocreates. Still,
> this really isn't quite what we were looking for though.
David, you might take a look at Allfix as it doesn't require this of you
and has some other nice features that you might enjoy.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2161
To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/06/94 9:14p
Subj: help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET
> ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO
> ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE
> SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help
Have you tried looking for files called fidonet.na and fidonet.no that
come over the satellite from time to time in the file echo area BACKBONE,
John? Those are the actual lists of what is available currently via the
north american backbone and a pretty good indicator of what echoes you can
expect coming over the satellite connection.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2162
To: TIM BROWN Date: 01/06/94 9:22p
Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> JJ> Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few
> JJ>others....
> Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot!
^^^^^^^^^
A what? You should be roundly thumped for that one, Tim. <g>
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2163
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/06/94 9:34p
Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> > Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet
> > net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our
> Now you need to know something about us. We have just as many systems
> out there that are not in fido as we do fido-systems. Do not think that
> we are only dealing with fido here. Do not think that every file around
Boyd, just a thought here on the subject, but since this echo is a FidoNet
echo and therefore all we see are the FidoNet side of the equation, why not
gate this echo to the other nets that go over the satellite so that we can all
get a more rounded bit of input from other subscribers of your service? This
would serve several functions, not the least of which would be at least the
perception of better 'support' via the various othernets without your having
to possibly answer the same or similar mail in 10 different echoes on 7
different networks.
Anyway, was just an idea I thought I'd share with you for what it's worth.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2164
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/06/94 9:38p
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat.
> BIG mistake on my part.
Yeah, I wanted to thump you myself, Boyd. Lack of drive space wasn't a
problem here but files that arrive without a tic file, accompanying note or
netmail of some type tend to be ignored or 'forgotten' since they can't be
automagically processed and without viewing each and every one of them it's
often difficult to figure out what the heck the file contains. Plus, some of
the files were dated pre-1991. Ack! Phffffft!
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2165
To: BRIAN HESS Date: 01/08/94 4:01p
Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BH> JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why?
BH>
BH> I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish....
You might re-check your Tick or Allfix configuration, Brian, as I've
received files via the ZyxelNet FDN as recently as a few days ago.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2166
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 01/15/94 11:35p
Subj: AD file areas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Have the AD file areas started coming in yet, so we great unwashed
> can get some programmer names to contact?
Yes, the Author Direct stuff has been flowing in over here at the rate of
2 or 3 new areas per day, Rick. I haven't had time to check out the files
being sent, but so far they look nice.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- InterMail 2.25
* Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2167
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/14/94 12:33a
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE me
-> -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, be
-> -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why
-> -> -> these?
->
-> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages,
-> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't
-> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you
-> know what that does to message pointers (g).....
->
-> is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other
-> Wildcat tossers experiencing this?
The first quote was from me. I am using WildMail and one of the
batches of grunged NetMail messages TRASHED my Netmail Database.
WCRepair wouldn't fix. I had to delete the files for that conference and
start fresh. Not a nice treat!
But on the bright side, it has only done that once so far.
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAY DESIO Number: 2168
To: KERRY SUTLEY Date: 01/15/94 9:12a
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either convert
> them to Fido msg format to be processed by my tosser (GECHO) or a
> stand alone that will do both. Any Ideas out there???
Depending on what BBS package you are running, you have afew choices out there.
For TBBS, there is PIMP (from Boardwatch Magazine) that will handle the bag
files just fine (once unarchived).
For WildCat!, there is WILDUUCP! (from Computer Resources) and WCUUCP! from
Mustang. I haven't had the opportunity to work with either of these yet, but I
believe they will also handle the mail bags.
I'm not sure what else is out there, but I hope the above helps somewhat.
---
* Origin: Network Communications (1:2604/222)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2169
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/14/94 10:13p
Subj: File Announcement Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jason,
Will PSort hadle XXXXXXXX.DDx files (Mail Bags) or just PKT files? If it
will automatically unzip mail bundles and then sort the .PKT's inside of
the zip, it would be a great utility.
* Gary *
---
* RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2170
To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/15/94 4:31p
Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michael Pierce wrote in a message to ALL:
MP> To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever posted
MP> (except this one) have *ALL* had the signature file
MP> attached!
Well.....I didnt say anything to you about it but I am sure that I speak for
most of the ones that did when I say 'We are sorry your ego is bruised but dont
let the door hit you in the a** on the way out'.......sheesh.......
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2171
To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/14/94 11:33p
Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Jeff Olesen to Don Waybright it was said:
JO> You import them using an AKA of 1:3615/51. Then you export
JO> as yourself WITHOUT the AKA of 1:3615/51. See, Boyd makes
JO> his packet by creating packets for a mythical sub-node of
JO> his called 1:3615/51. Then he takes the resulting packets
JO> and fires them out the link to all of us. When we call him,
JO> if our systems put a seen-by of 1:3615/51 in it, his system
JO> will refuse to toss it because it's already been seen by
JO> 1:3615/51. This also means that any message that leaves your
JO> system will come back to you in the next days packets, so
JO> you must have your dupe-checking turned on.
Ok... This makes sense. Leave the RHub feed open for routed netmail and send
my packets to Boyd...
JO> That's one way. I use a separate SX-40 to capture it all
JO> locally and it spits the files across Lantastic when each
JO> run is finished. It runs 24 hours a day. I found that it
JO> couldn't work over Lantastic directly, all captures had to
JO> be to a local drive.
I am beginning to think that a second machine (386DX-40) might do me well here.
For I could put in a four port serial cards with 16550's but the systems
downtime/toss time for that amount of mail would be a major drawback... Then
when funds permit do what I have been wanting to do for a long time: Lantastic!
Just home much mail is THE BACKBONE for FidoNet? I am trying to figure out the
size of drive I will need to handle this. Currently I have a spare 103MB
sitting around and I am wondering if that would be enought to handle the
incoming mail and files.
JO> One thing to keep in mind, if you go for a KU band setup,
JO> you may want to get the 4' dish instead of the 3' one to
JO> avoid rain fade and snow buildup problems. The 4' gives you
JO> 12 square feet instead of 6 sqaure feet so it takes a lot
JO> more to degrade the signal to the point where it is
JO> unusable. Don't forget, your roof is generally un-accessible
JO> (safely) while it is snowing (assuming you even get snow in
JO> Virginia) and for a few days afterwards.
Not much snow here but rain/ice build up could be a problem. And I do want to
avoid "learning the hardway".... Sounds like the 4' might just be better (Jeez
I have a lot to learn about this!).
Thanks again for the reply and the time it took. I have a few more questions
that I will post tonight/tomorrow.
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2172
To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/14/94 11:53p
Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Jeff Olesen to Don Waybright it was said:
JO> One thing to keep in mind, if you go for a KU band setup,
JO> you may want to get the 4' dish instead of the 3' one to
JO> avoid rain fade and snow buildup problems. The 4' gives you
JO> 12 square feet instead of 6 sqaure feet so it takes a lot
JO> more to degrade the signal to the point where it is
JO> unusable. Don't forget, your roof is generally un-accessible
JO> (safely) while it is snowing (assuming you even get snow in
JO> Virginia) and for a few days afterwards.
I did not notice the 4' Dish package in the file other than the one listed for
Candadian systems... Am I missing something? Or do i need to FReq a newer
file?
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2173
To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 11:54p
Subj: PC & File Areas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(From the Satelite.Zip file)
** Electronic satellite tv-guide
also Fido File Areas
** These services are made availible to the receiving station for
posting ONLY on the receiving station. These services must not be
passed on to other systems. Services require registration and a
yearly subscription fee by the receiving system's online users.
I guess what I am seeing is correct. Just wanted to make sure though. Does
this mean that I cannot send the SDS stuff out to my local FidoNet? If true I
would simply, and not meaning to start a feud, like to ask why is this so? I
could be missing a very missing part of the picture but the SDS areas are
sponsored through FidoNet right?
Just curious.
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2174
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/15/94 4:57p
Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Normally the ">" or ">>" will redirect _everything_ that is
-> written to the screen to a file.... HOWEVER when running Arj
-> with the "S" parameter to make it redirect the File_id.diz to
Terry I forwarded this to Robert Jung, if he responds I'll send it to
you.
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2175
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 01/15/94 5:00p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I sent Derek K. (WildMail) a message on this this morning. I don't
-> think WM is looking at your main address when the AKA is kicked in.
I would be interested in hearing what you find out.
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2176
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 01/15/94 5:04p
Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> sent Boyd Goodin a NetMail message with a few questions and I have se
-> people a FAX with the same questions. --- How long to you think it w
-> until I hear from them?
->
Well they are good on the phone, but I know those folks are busy.
Frankly I would recommend a phone call.
-> How did the overall setup go with your system?
Pretty well. I still have a problem if I bring that sat stuff into a
networked drive, but apparently it isn't common (I seem to be the only
one reporting it). You'll have a ball.
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2177
To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 01/14/94 8:07p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> except to pass human callers to it). The other Wilcat sysop in the a
-> uses GoMail and carries the entire BackBone and it takes him 3-7 hour
-> toss, where Gecho takes less then and hour to toss and packet all th
-> out bound mail.
Hmmm, I use WildMail here and I have all the files tossed to the BBS
and mail tossed for downlinks in 1 hour. I then take 1 more hour to
pretoss what I want to my BBS. Seems pretty quick on this end. Tossing
speed is about 700msg/min for Fido.
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2178
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/14/94 8:12p
Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail
->
-> You should be flogged with a wet noddle for at least 15 mins! :)
Eww baby! Make me feel like the man I really am<G>! But the question
is, do we get to tie him up first {;-']
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 2179
To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/15/94 2:01p
Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MP> To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever posted (except
MP> this one) have *ALL* had the signature file attached!
BYE!!!!....I'm sure that I speak for all of us in here, when I say that
we will miss you terribly!....NOT!!!!!
MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUDY BORJON Number: 2180
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/16/94 1:04p
Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I read that you be be having the full usenet groups on Planet Connect. Will we
need special software to rec and toss back to 1:3615/50?
===
* OLX 2.1 TD * - THE BORDER -Satellite G4 Downlink !
--- InterEcho 1.00/b06
* Origin: TheBorder-Skylink'ed(RudyBorjon)EPX 915-593-4085 (1:381/122)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2181
To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/16/94 1:15p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tim!
In a message to Thomas Kinnen <01/14/94> Tim Lajoie wrote:
TL> pretoss what I want to my BBS. Seems pretty quick on this end. Tossing
TL> speed is about 700msg/min for Fido.
Part of it is that the BBS is on 4Mbs Token ring. When tossing from a
Eathernet workstation the speed more then doubles.
Tom
* WCE 1.5/2101 * Help! I'm a prisoner in a tagline factory!
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013]
* Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2182
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/16/94 1:17p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wallace!
In a message to Jason Fesler <01/15/94> Wallace Sheldon wrote:
WS> mail directory to accomplish this. Could you be persuaded to spend the 2
WS> to 5 minutes needed to allow the program to read an optional command line
WS> find the AREAS.BBS in it's normal location? BTW, your program does work
Hmm, Thought I saw that option in the Docs.
Tom
* WCE 1.5/2101 * (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013]
* Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUDY BORJON Number: 2183
To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 1:25p
Subj: Fred Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen several people mention FRED, how is the command line stated? I am
using:
Fred-uf -c config.fil news0040.bag 40.pkt
This works fine, for 1 bag, but I need an automated setup for "all" bags, any
ideas.??
===
* OLX 2.1 TD * - THE BORDER -Satellite G4 Downlink !
--- InterEcho 1.00/b06
* Origin: TheBorder-Skylink'ed(RudyBorjon)EPX 915-593-4085 (1:381/122)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2184
To: STEVE HUSK Date: 01/16/94 3:47p
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Saturday January 15 1994 22:00, STEVE HUSK wrote to All:
SH> Hello everone. This is our fist message to Planet Connect. Just wanted
SH> to see how things are working. Steve Husk -+- SLMAIL v3.5 (#0999) +
SH> Origin: County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576)
Hello STEVE!
You made it to Central Texas..
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Planet-Connetion mean never having to say "Where's my Mail (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2185
To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 01/16/94 11:00p
Subj: Re: DATES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boyd, Looking at my Index files, it seems that the DATE is correct but
> the DAY is wrong. This happened about the 1st of the year !
> Any thoughts ?
Dont know what you are talking about. If it is for PCUTILS then I think John
could answer that better than I.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2186
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 11:29p
Subj: Re: Support Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> We spoke with Dan a few minutes ago who told us the
> following:
> - Our subscription had not been renewed because my Visa card expired
> 12/93
> (They don't expire until the last day of the month, and at any rate,
> why
> were we not notified of this? It isn't as though the people at your
> office were unable to send netmail.)
First off who is Dan?
> - Dan then asked if we had reset our clock.
This could happen. If you see a 6144 error then it is a dat time violation.
If the clock goes back in time wit will come up with this.
> - Our contract specified a yearly subscription, yet according to Dan,
> the
> subscription code you issued us on the 21st was for 53 days,
> retroactive
Which I told your hubby. For the first time renewal it is retroactive from
the date you specified in the contract where it asdks what date you started
using Planet Connect. This has always been our policy.
> to 15 Nov. and *should* have expired on the 7th of this month. The
> code
> he initially gave us was for a 3 month subscription. When we queried
> him as to why we had to renew our yearly subscription every 3 months
> he
> re-checked our contract and issued us a subscription code for the
> period
> of 1 year.
This should not of happened. Our policy is that we ONLY reset the lock for
90 days even if you have payed a full year in advanced.
> Now, my question to you as a representative of Planet Connect, is if
> this
> is the type of service we can expect from your company?
Depends. If you read the contract it stated that it your subscription would
start on the day you put in for starting to use Planet Connect. I also
explained to your hubby why we have the 90 days limit. If you got reset for the
full year what are you complaining about?
> If there is a problem processing someone's payment for a
> subscription, I
> don't think it's too much to ask that your subscriber, or potential
> subscriber as the case may be, be notified of it so that the necessary
> actions can be taken. This helps to contribute to keeping customer
> satisfaction high as well as the added benefit of ensuring that your
> company is paid for it's services.
Thats why the 90 day limit. If you did not pay then we just dont reset you
till you did.
> Also, it's maddening to call your company only to speak with
> individuals
> who apparently are not knowledgeable about your services and/or are not
> authorized to make a decision or take effective action at the time of the
> call.
Well takes time to train people. Did you learn everything about how our
program works and what is involved in getting data over the sat overnight?
> And last, but certainly not least, there is apparently no effective
> form
> of organization at Planet Connect as evidenced by the fact that on
Show me a company that is just starting and hiring new people that are as
organized as you want it to be. Everything takes time. Heck a year ago I had no
idea about how this all works. But At least I am trying to figure it all out.
> occasions when I have called & spoken with some of the others they were
> unable to find any information regarding our subscription. This does not
> speak well of your company, Boyd, nor project a very encouraging picture
> of your services.
Yep and IBM is running smoothly too. This is not my company. I work for
P.S.I. All I have is a fancy title but I worked for that title. You got lucky.
If I would have been there when Jim reset your lock there would have been no
way that he would have did it for a year. Policy is policy and come hell or
high water I will stay with my decisions.
> For the most part, we've been very happy with the services of Planet
> Connect and have endorsed it to it's fullest, but I am dismayed and
> extremely unhappy with the most recent state of affairs. Please tell me
> that this will improve in the near future, Boyd. Lie if you must.
I will not lie. It will get better but from your comments, not fast enough
for you.
....Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2187
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 11:31p
Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boyd, just a thought here on the subject, but since this echo is a
> FidoNet
> echo and therefore all we see are the FidoNet side of the equation, why
> not gate this echo to the other nets that go over the satellite so that
No can do. We do not process any of the other networks. Unless each network
that is sending to us has a dish and does the gating, it will never happen on
our end.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2188
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 11:46p
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Yeah, I wanted to thump you myself, Boyd. Lack of drive space wasn't
> a
> problem here but files that arrive without a tic file, accompanying note
> or netmail of some type tend to be ignored or 'forgotten' since they
> can't be automagically processed and without viewing each and every one
> of them it's often difficult to figure out what the heck the file
> contains. Plus, some of the files were dated pre-1991. Ack! Phffffft!
Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the majority like what I did.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2189
To: RUDY BORJON Date: 01/16/94 11:49p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I read that you be be having the full usenet groups on Planet Connect.
> Will we need special software to rec and toss back to 1:3615/50?
Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one going
over today called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones we have going
over now. It will start toi increase even more as the days go by. The PC
software will receive them in the USENET directory. At Present we are not set
up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to check and see what kind of
administative nightmare this will be.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2190
To: JASON BUCHANAN Date: 01/16/94 11:52p
Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> hey Boyd! what's up?
Really want me to answer that one?
> I still wanna see an OS/2 PTCCMAIN.EXE or at least one that works
> reliably in DV ;-)
Well right now something else has got or attention. The software does not
work under OS2 because of the lock. OS2 will not let the lock do its thing and
we cant do anything about that until the company that supplies them to us has a
fix.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 2191
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/16/94 9:33a
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan 14 09:52>, Jason Fesler of 1:203/7707.1 writes:
JF> The usenet/fidonet gateway software I wrote is still in beta, and
JF> currently stands at a version number of ".96".. It does handle
JF> the .BAG format (which is really .x/.d files minux the .x file).
JF> If you're interested, file request "GIGO" from 1:203/7707.
Jason,
I had no luck trying to get GIGO to read the .BAG files. The docs say
nothing about it (did I miss something?)...it did not recognixe the .BAG files.
What needs to be done to get it to work with the .BAGs?
--- msgedsq 2.1a
* Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2192
To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 01/12/94 9:09p
Subj: Re: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of Sa 08-Jan-94 02:31, Eddie Rowe wrote:
ER> One of the hurdles Planet Connects has faced is File
ER> Distribution Network Heads who think they
ER> can regulate how we pass files...
ER>
ER> This is stupidity in action...
:-) What types of regulations have people tried to put on you?
---
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 2193
To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/16/94 3:20a
Subj: Crc Errors Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL>Hello Foxy!
JL>Me too. It sounds promising as a operating system though.
I've been quite happy with the performance of DrDos 6. Can't say I
missed not having the problems some had with M$dos' DoubleSpacer
(or whatever 'twas miss-called). <g>
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: (1:116/210.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2194
To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/16/94 5:13a
Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Michael!
Friday January 14 1994 11:40, Michael Pierce wrote to ALL:
MP> correctly! I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator (thanks
MP> you jerks!) this will be my last post in this echo so don't waist the
MP> message to respond!
Gee, we'll miss you.
Rick
--- GoldED 2.41+
* Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2195
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/16/94 11:00a
Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> George Vandervort wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
->
-> GV> you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a
-> GV> Magic name for File Request..
->
-> Yes... there is a bug in my docs! I must have been falling asleep b
-> I finished writing the program and started with the docs. I have se
-> it will come by asking for almost anything. <g>
ok.... now let me get this straight...
I do ALT-F and type in 'ANYTHING' and I can get the file????
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2196
To: JAY DESIO Date: 01/16/94 11:04a
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> For TBBS, there is PIMP (from Boardwatch Magazine) that will handle t
-> files just fine (once unarchived).
->
-> For WildCat!, there is WILDUUCP! (from Computer Resources) and WCUUCP
-> Mustang. I haven't had the opportunity to work with either of these y
-> believe they will also handle the mail bags.
->
-> I'm not sure what else is out there, but I hope the above helps somew
using WCUUCP here, and as far as I can tell, it works just fine...
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2197
To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/16/94 11:10a
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hmmm, I use WildMail here and I have all the files tossed to the
-> and mail tossed for downlinks in 1 hour. I then take 1 more hour to
-> pretoss what I want to my BBS. Seems pretty quick on this end. Tossin
-> speed is about 700msg/min for Fido.
Tim,
how about describing the equipment and posting AUTOEXEC and CONFIG.SYS
files for us so we can see how you do this.....
it takes me 20 minutes to do the tossing using GECHO, then I
unpack my pkt into \WM\PRETOSS and run WM PRETOSS to get mine
into Wildcat... whether by design or by accident, Wildmail
doesn't give a damn WHAT address is used when doing WM PRETOSS,
so it works well for me.... GECHO receives from 3615/50 and
tosses to 3801/1 (me) and Wildmail merrily tosses the pkt from
3801/1 to 3801/1....
doing everything with Wildmail alone took me almost 3 hours to
do on some days.....
thanks..
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 2198
To: ALL Date: 01/15/94 11:19p
Subj: Msgtoss/areafix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is anyone using Msgtoss, Areafix and RBBS or CDor? I have most things
working well, but wanted to set up a new areas create using areafix.
That would let me take all unfed areas out of my areas.bbs, thus
speeding tossing and reducing my msgtoss.eid.
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2199
To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 10:40a
Subj: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron since
last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent this past
week have received no replies.
Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I can tell via
date whether the system's working here. Thanks.
-=<-Katherine->=-
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2200
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/16/94 10:24p
Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Terry!
In a message to Joe Lyda <01/14/94> Terry Blount wrote:
TB> JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT:
TB> JL> Well try this and it will work to the file but no echo to
TB> JL> screen
TB> JL> arj l *.sdn *.diz >> outfile
TB> That command does not show the contents of the *.diz file so the descript
TB> is not witten to the outfile... only the file name.
TB> Try this on a .zip file and then look at the outfile to see what is neede
TB> when I use Arj.
TB> pkunzip /c * *.diz >> outfile
Ya I see what you are dealing with, none of the switches I see
will do that, however, I am looking at it.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * When in doubt, make it sound convincing
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2201
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/17/94 1:18a
Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Patty!
08 Jan 94 16:01, Patty Pickett wrote to Brian Hess:
BH> JM>> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why?
BH>>
BH>> I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish....
PP> You might re-check your Tick or Allfix configuration, Brian,
PP> as I've received files via the ZyxelNet FDN as recently as a few
PP> days ago.
thanks this is old message... after making several messages about it appeared
suddenly...<G> like i though it would... if you know what i mean...
On another note I use to live in Hallsville, TX (near Longview) and been to La
several times...
Thank you,
Brian
--- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8
* Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID WROBEL Number: 2202
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 10:16p
Subj: Re: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> > instead of Echomail - They said you have to make them *ALL*
> passthru in
> > order for Tick to 'ADD' areas as passthru when it autocreates.
> Still,
> > this really isn't quite what we were looking for though.
>
> David, you might take a look at Allfix as it doesn't require this
> of you
> and has some other nice features that you might enjoy.
Sounds good... I've heard it's good too...
[ Dave ]
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The High Frontier RBBS / Holmdel, N.J. USA (1:107/605.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2203
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/16/94 10:07a
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
> Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I
> can't see how you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a
> second isn't much different that once every few minutes.
My point was that if a drive will take the thrashing that happens during a
defrag or especially during heavy mail processing, the activity from writing
all those blocks, one at a time, amounts to nothing. If the drive would last 4
years on the satellite reception duty, writing 3 times/second, it'd probably go
another month or 2 if you didn't write *anything*. I'm no more guru than you
are, but I'd bet that this would be the case.
> I find that seeing the hd light only blinking when the entire file
> is written makes me feel a lot better..
If it makes you feel better, go for it.
--- FLAME v1.0/b
* Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2204
To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 1:52a
Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Flashbacks of messages between Michael Pierce and to ALL)
MP> I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator
MP> (thanks you jerks!) this will be my last post in this echo
MP> so don't waist the message to respond!
[Finally...]
Jason Fesler
--- timEd-A12a
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2205
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/17/94 4:11p
Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill Roper wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
->
-> GV> you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a
-> GV> Magic name for File Request..
->
-> Yes... there is a bug in my docs! I must have been falling asleep b
-> I finished writing the program and started with the docs. I have se
-> it will come by asking for almost anything. <g>
BR> ok.... now let me get this straight...
BR> I do ALT-F and type in 'ANYTHING' and I can get the file????
No... that was a joke. If you request Diz2bbs or Diz2bbs.zip it should come
either way.
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2206
To: PC RECEIVING SYSOPS Date: 01/16/94 5:33p
Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The following is a list of systems that are sending areas that are not part of
the echo-bone structure. Please remove 1:3615/50 from distribution. This just
takes up procesing time con our end and cost each system money to send it to
the bit bucket!
Address 103/0 area 'REG10_SYSOP'
Address 106/737 area '4SALE'
Address 372/39 area 'TFDN'
Address 3601/14 area 'DB_SOFT'
Address 372/39 area 'TFDN'
Address 11/600 area 'AIRMED'
Address 363/1570 area 'FLA_NET'
Address 103/0 area 'REG10_SYSOP'
Address 213/213 area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 105/50 area 'HIGH_ED'
Address 106/737 area '4SALE'
Address 291/11 area 'MEMORY_LANE'
Address 216/0 area 'LOCAL_NET'
Address 323/100 area 'NESYSOP'
Address 3612/42 area 'SALE'
Address 3612/42 area 'WF_DEBATE'
Address 3612/42 area 'ADULT'
Address 3612/42 area 'FM-GENEALOGIE'
Address 3612/42 area 'R18ELECT'
Address 3612/42 area 'SYSOP18'
Address 3639/19 area 'CMX4SALE'
Address 398/2 area 'R19SYSOP'
Address 229/510 area 'NULL'
Address 382/92 area 'R19SYSOP'
Address 371/3901 area 'DB_TECH'
Address 3619/1 area 'FLMHUB'
Address 3615/52 area 'LOST'
Address 110/69 area 'SBE'
Address 3634/7 area 'NEC18'
Address 382/92 area 'R19SYSOP'
Address 3601/14 area 'DB_SOFT'
Address 3634/7 area 'NEC18'
Address 3634/7 area 'NCFILE'
Address 382/92 area 'R19SYSOP'
Address 233/15 area 'CONTROL'
Address 2440/5 area 'DAIRY_FARM'
Address 363/1570 area 'FLA_NET'
Address 285/2 area 'IVGATE'
Address 274/901 area 'NETMAIL'
Address 216/0 area 'LOCAL_NET'
Address 250/636 area 'AMIGA_COMMS'
Address 229/15 area 'AUG-GEN'
Address 229/15 area 'SOC_ROOTS'
Address 229/15 area 'TIDEWATER_GENE'
Address 216/0 area 'LOCAL_NET'
Address 285/2 area 'IVGATE'
Address 110/69 area 'DB_TECH'
Address 348/501 area 'USERGRPS'
Address 347/22 area '4SALE'
Address 3619/1 area 'FLMHUB'
Address 110/69 area 'MVBB_LST'
Address 289/13 area 'ADULTCON'
Address 289/13 area 'UTILNET'
Address 371/3901 area 'DB_TECH'
I am getting anywhere from 1 to 2 megs of badmessages per day from these
conferences. If it is not in the FIDONET.NA .NO I dont want it. Eventually I
will get fed up with this stuff and stop allowing systems to drop off mail
until they have this fixed. This will be my last resort but please take the
time to change it or face being locked out until y6ou have it fixed.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2207
To: STEVE HUSK Date: 01/16/94 5:19a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <15 Jan 94 22:00:00>, STEVE HUSK (1:157/576) writes:
SH>Hello everone. This is our fist message to Planet Connect. Just
SH>wanted to see how things are working.
Hello, Steve. I'm a newcomer here too -- maybe we can learn together.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2208
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/17/94 3:29a
Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET
>> ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO
>> ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE
>> SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help
> Have you tried looking for files called fidonet.na and fidonet.no that
>come over the satellite from time to time in the file echo area BACKBONE,
>John? Those are the actual lists of what is available currently via the
>north american backbone and a pretty good indicator of what echoes you can
>expect coming over the satellite connection.
> --)@ Patty @(--
Patty,
I have to agree, the FIDONET.NA and .NO lists are a "pretty
good indicator".... but, I have seen a few that aren't in either
list.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LYON Number: 2209
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/16/94 4:21a
Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->
-> JL> Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again toda
-> JL> This is about 6 days in a row!
-> JL> -+- WM v3.10/92-0069
-> JL> + Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0)
->
-> Hello John!
->
-> knock on wood.. :-)
-> So far all Wed 12th and Thur. 13 mail bundles have process ok on my s
-> without any problem.. and Wed was a BIG load of mail...
->
-> I still don't really know what cause the corruption of my Message bas
-> 10th and 11th, except that PCUTILS allowed several Bad Bundles of Mai
-> Errors to be moved to my TOSS Directory...
Me either, it is definatly echo mail going to my Netmail. I got a
ton of them the 14th and 15th too! :(
It's been colder than you-know-what here in Michigan. It's been taking
2 to 3 passes before I get all the mail and files. The snow doesn't seem
to effect it, but the COLD seems to. I guess this could be part of it.
Someone did say that they thought it was thier system causing it, but
maybe not.
John..
--- WM v3.10/92-0069
* Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2210
To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 01/16/94 9:24p
Subj: File Announcement Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gary Hedberg babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
GH> Jason,
GH> Will PSort hadle XXXXXXXX.DDx files (Mail Bags) or just PKT
GH> files? If it will automatically unzip mail bundles and then
GH> sort the .PKT's inside of the zip, it would be a great
GH> utility.
Just .PKT files. Anything else is up to you to provide. I use GUS here.
You can also simply run your archiver in the batch file first...
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12a
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2211
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/16/94 9:21p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Wallace Sheldon babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
WS> this. Could you be persuaded to spend the 2 1/2 to 5
WS> minutes needed to allow the program to read an optional
WS> command line and find the AREAS.BBS in it's normal location?
Not at this time. I have other programming commmitments. It can't take that
long for you to copy an areas.bbs...
WS> BTW, your program does work in a DOS box in OS/2, but it
WS> doesn't trigger the DOS box like a normal DOS program. You
Try "dos4gw.exe gateway.exe" instead; don't know how it will react.
Or, wait until Jan 20 1994, and re-request PSORT.ZIP from me. Someone else is
porting it to OS/2.
WS> My impression is that you are using Watcom to program with.
WS> Doesn't Watcom do OS/2?? If you need an OS/2 compiler, have
It does, but I don't have the hardware, or references, or the time. Someone
else is doing the port for me.
WS> you looked at the GNU EMX C/C++ compiler? You can turn out
WS> Family programs that run in both DOS & OS/2, and it offers a
WS> DOS Extender (and it's free!). With C it's a VERY short
Free, but annoying. And they have some strict rules on distribution of
anything made with it. Yes, I've already looked into it.
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12a
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2212
To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 12:09p
Subj: lannet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
anybody seen any traffic out of lannet? I haven't seen a thing flow
down.
jerry
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: BAYOU BBS ## West Monroe, LA ## 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2213
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/17/94 7:55p
Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron
> since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent
> this past week have received no replies.
Well I get it here but I dont count. If I am the only one that is replying
to this then Jeff has a problem which would be that his system is adding
3615/51 to the seenbys.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2214
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/17/94 8:49p
Subj: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sunday January 16 1994 10:40, Katherine Schroeder wrote to All:
KS> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron
KS> since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent
KS> this past week have received no replies.
KS>
KS> Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I can
KS> tell via date whether the system's working here. Thanks.
KS> -=<-Katherine->=- -+- GEcho 1.00 + Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time *
KS> Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221)
Hello Katherine!
got you here in Central Texas..
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: NET382 NEC Home of the 14.4k Gerbil-SAT... (FidoNet 1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 2215
To: RUDY BORJON Date: 01/17/94 3:23p
Subj: Fred Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rudy Borjon scripted in a message to All:
RB> Fred-uf -c config.fil news0040.bag 40.pkt
That'll work, but ...
RB> This works fine, for 1 bag, but I need an automated setup
RB> for "all" bags, any ideas.??
Yup, I wrote such a critter. f'req UF here, about 13K.
... Remus ...
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RON JOHNSTON Number: 2216
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/17/94 4:15p
Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> I have to agree, the FIDONET.NA and .NO lists are a
DP> "pretty
DP> good indicator".... but, I have seen a few that
DP> aren't in either
so far as what John Souvestre has told me direct is, he's feeding .na, .no
and the echos listed in filebone.na as backbone echos. If you've seen
anything else I'd have a feeling that may be what Boyde is trying to get
culled out.
Ron
---
* Origin: The County Line BBS Node2 414-476-8469 (1:154/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 2217
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/16/94 8:43a
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John:
Monday January 10 1994 22:28, John Lyon wrote to Boyd Goodin:
->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messages
->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, because
->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I got
->> these?
JL> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now.
SInce this seems to happen every so often, I recommend installing MsgTrack.
This will kill routed echomail, or optionally move it to your bad message area.
It does other things as well...
You can FREQ it from me as MT331.ARJ
Nick
CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org
---
* Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2218
To: BILLY MORING Date: 01/16/94 6:45a
Subj: Test export Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Boyd,
->
-> This is a test of my export setup... If this makes it back to Skyboar
-> send a reply to me, so I will know my export is working...
It made it to sunny and warm (NOT - its currently -37 without
windchill figured in) Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Canada.
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2219
To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/16/94 6:46a
Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator (thanks you j
-> this will be my last post in this echo so don't waist the message to
What a shame, we are truely going to miss his stimulating messages.
NOT!
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2220
To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 01/16/94 3:11p
Subj: Re: Hooray! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> That looks like a very good solution to my problem. I am running a
JC> 286for the planet, and it writes to the 486 hardrive. I only have one
JC> megof ram, but do have two simm slots. How big of a cache_size are
JC> yousetting? Could I get away with this with 2 more meg? Also, I read
I use a 2 meg cache here, just because I have it available.
I suppose you could use any size you want to.
With a 1 meg cache and a delay time of 60 it would hit the planet connect hd
every 1 minute or when file is completed, with a delay of 600 it would hit
every 10 minutes or when the file is completed, so on.. I use it here with
excellent results.
The only problem I have run into, when I do any editing or other work on the
Planet Connect machine I have to make sure that the cache is "flushed" before
changes can take effect..
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2221
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/16/94 3:21p
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JJ> I agree with the original response. If you're not multi-tasking,
JJ> thenthe drive isn't going to be seeking all over the place, and
JJ> writing onceper block doesn't involve any more head movement than if
JJ> you cached.
JJ> The current drawn by the head isn't really significant, I have never
JJ> heard of a head burning out! In any case it's still 'six of one',
JJ> youare writiing the same number of sectors overall, whether it's 1-2
JJ> at atime, or all at once.
JJ> -jim-
Well I suppose thats one way of looking at things, but let me ask you this.
Have you ever looked at the drive (with speed disk) after a couple of days use?
Looks like a piece of swiss cheese, now when a file is written to the hd it
will write the first availble area that is not allocated for another file
right? The first sector(s) might be close to the front of the disk, the last
sector(s) might be towards the middle or the end. If a file is 100K then (my
math might not be correct) if you write it in pieces (2-3 times a second) and
it takes apx. 50 seconds to write that one file, thats 100-150 times AT
DIFFERENT sectors that the drive is being written to.
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2222
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/17/94 12:46p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->-> I sent Derek K. (WildMail) a message on this this morning. I don't
->-> think WM is looking at your main address when the AKA is kicked in.
->I would be interested in hearing what you find out.
Well, as of right now, I've heard nothing.
Chuck
--- WM v3.10/91-0206
* Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2223
To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 01/17/94 1:42p
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BR>-> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th n
->
-> BR>it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages,
-> BR>delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't
-> BR>fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you
-> BR>know what that does to message pointers (g).....
-> BR>
-> BR>is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other
-> BR>Wildcat tossers experiencing this?
->
-> We are getting them down here to, but PCBoard handles them just fine
-> without message base corruption.
does that translate to "my software is better than yours" (g)......
-> I used to get lot's of message base corruptions while running WILDCAT
-> 3.90/Wildmail and quickly changed from the Wildcat BBS software to
I have very occassionaly had a conference corrupted but never anything
that WCREPAIR wouldn't fix... I remember the days of using RA for
a message base (pre WC v3.xx days) and how often I would lose the
WHOLE DARN THING!!!... with the individual conference files, at
least all I lost was the one conference...
but... have since found that WCPRO will delete the messages
nicely, and not corrupt the file.....
-> PCBoard 15.0. Never had any message corruptions anymore after that!!
-> Sorry to hear you're having problems with your message bases.
just part of the learning experience.... after all, if I wanted
to live in an environment where nothing ever went wrong, I certainly
wouldn't have a computer around the house (g)...
cheers...
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2224
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/17/94 5:57a
Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <15 Jan 94 13:37:12>, Bill Roper (1:3801/1) writes:
BR>-> Sounds like I won't. If I could trouble you could I ask how "Easy"
BR>-> get the system up and running once the equipment arrived? Any tips
BR>-> really newcomers!? <g>
BR>
BR>I already had a satellite system, and being somewhat technical in
BR>that field anyway, didn't have any problems at all... put a
BR>splitter in the line off the LNB (the $20.00 splitter they want
BR>to sell you cost me $4.50....), ran a piece of RG59 (no... I
BR>didn't use RG6) to the room with the computers, plugged it in
Sounds pretty simple, Bill. I'm a newcomer also and I probably won't be
getting my equipment for another week or two. I wonder if you could give a
brief outline of how a typical download works with approximate processing
times? Assuming that you begin receiving a Fido backbone transmission at 6:30
a.m., how long until the transmission finishes and then what happens when you
start processing -- just a complete rank 'beginner' here.
And I assume the transmissions run 24 hours -- can you just jump in and start
copying, or do you have to wait until a specific time before you can get any
data?
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2225
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/17/94 6:03a
Subj: New Subscriber Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <15 Jan 94 14:15:55>, Bill Roper (1:3801/1) writes:
BR>-> I've noticed a lack of messages on this echo in the past week or so.
BR>-> ordered the KU kit and I hope you guys are still around to help when
BR>-> delivery.... :-)
BR>
BR>Hi, Fred.... long time no talk-to....
BR>
BR>I think John Woodward is online, and a local call is always
BR>better than echomail (g)....
Thanks for the response, Bill. I spoke with John a couple of weeks ago --
that's what got me interested in Planet Connect in the first place!
Anyway, I was just elected File Coordinator so I figured this was a required
project.
hehehehe...
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN DODSON Number: 2226
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/17/94 8:00p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one going
BG>over today called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones we have goin
BG>over now. It will start toi increase even more as the days go by. The PC
Hi Boyd, I just looked at the PCUSENET.TXT list and it includes the sex
conferences and some binaries... so am I to assume that these will not
be filtered out in the future?
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2227
To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/17/94 2:15p
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I
> can't see how you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a
> second isn't much different that once every few minutes.
JD> My point was that if a drive will take the thrashing that happens
JD> during a defrag or especially during heavy mail processing, the
JD> activity from writing all those blocks, one at a time, amounts to
JD> nothing. If the drive would last 4 years on the satellite reception
JD> duty, writing 3 times/second, it'd probably go another month or 2 if
JD> you didn'twrite *anything*. I'm no more guru than you are, but I'd
JD> bet that this would be the case.
I am very interested in what a person that repairs hard drives would have to
say about this.
I will try to find out more and let you know..
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2228
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/17/94 7:10p
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
In a message to Patty Pickett <01/16/94> Boyd Goodin wrote:
BG> > Yeah, I wanted to thump you myself, Boyd. Lack of drive space wasn't
BG> > a
BG> > problem here but files that arrive without a tic file, accompanying not
BG> > or netmail of some type tend to be ignored or 'forgotten' since they
BG> > can't be automagically processed and without viewing each and every one
BG> > of them it's often difficult to figure out what the heck the file
BG> > contains. Plus, some of the files were dated pre-1991. Ack! Phffffft!
BG>
BG>
BG> Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the majority like what I did
BG>
BG> ...Boyd
And am wondering when you gona do it again, seems to draw the
best side out of everyone.<G>
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * WcEDIT - No Cholesterol! No Saturated fats!
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JD BROWN Number: 2229
To: JASON BUCHANAN Date: 01/17/94 11:08p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CIS: 72027,2432 or IBM LINK @ DEV0580
JB> hey Boyd! what's up?
JB>
JB> I still wanna see an OS/2 PTCCMAIN.EXE or at least one that
JB> works reliably in DV ;-)
Tell them to send me the source code and an NDA and I will
port it in 3 days or less.
---GALACTICA! SOUTHEASTERN ECHOSTAR! FEEDING ALL WHO ASK!
___
X KWQ/2 1.2a X Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked
po
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Exchange (Home of EGGNET'S EC1, POLICY) (1:3622/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUDY BORJON Number: 2230
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/17/94 11:52p
Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG>> I read that you be be having the full usenet groups on Planet Connect.
BG>> Will we need special software to rec and toss back to 1:3615/50?
BG>by. The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory. At
BG>Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to check
I have them coming in to the "newsgrp", did you change "aconfig.sky" on me? I
recently recieved a new "aconfig" which listed the new "french net" and the
HealthNet, but did not see a change to USENET ?
Holonet could prob fix you up with a return uplink, if users do it individually
(like me) it cost $12.50 a month, but if you offer them to upload all Planet
Connect customers it prob will be a large sum of bills..
===
* OLX 2.1 TD * - THE BORDER -Satellite G4 Downlink !
--- InterEcho 1.00/b06
* Origin: TheBorder-Skylink'ed(RudyBorjon)EPX 915-593-4085 (1:381/122)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2231
To: JOHN BURTON Date: 01/12/94 11:10a
Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
John Burton wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
JB> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got
JB> your ABOUT file in return...
I'll put it on hold for you. I don't know why so many people are getting it
and some don't?
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2232
To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/12/94 11:11a
Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT:
TB> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the
TB> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be
TB> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me
TB> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use
TB> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the
TB> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work.
JL> Try the append to a file function ">>" works without
JL> overwritting the previous line.
That doesn't work either. Only the text in the File_id.diz is saved to the
file. The file name that it came from (which is written to the screen) is not
saved in the output file.
Try this:
arj s -y * *.diz >> outfile
Even thought the file name is echoed to the screen it won't
appear in the "outfile" with the .diz text.
Thanks for you interest in solving this problem.
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2233
To: ALL Date: 01/08/94 1:06p
Subj: File announcement Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I don't normally make file announcements in national echos, but for this, I'll
make an exception, as it is something that may be of good use for you.. The
program is free, I hope it helps out everyone. If there is a P_C file echo at
all, whoever is in charge of it is more than welcome to hatch it out in it.
Please note the requirements before file requesting it!
File names: PSORT.ZIP (70k) .PKT Packet sorter + filter (free,386 reqd)
DOS4GW.ZIP (142k) Dos extender for Watcom applications
Below is an abbreviated form of the documentation..
------------------------------------------------------------------
PSRT - Packet filter & sorter
- Reads and combines .PKT files into one large .PKT file (multiple
.PKTS if from multiple sources; the PKT headers themselves are
preserved for security)
- Sorts by area, subject, date, and time, up to the limits of memory
(ie, the more memory you have, the more that can be contiguously sorted)
- If AREAS.BBS found (standard AREAS.BBS format), it will be read,
and _only_ the areas found in AREAS.BBS will be kept. Useful if
you get the entire backbone but only need a portion of it, ie
satellite feeds.
Requirements:
- Requires 386sx or greater
- Requires 1 meg of extended/ems/dpmi/vcpi/whatever memory
(more memory provides better sorting, ideally, 3-3.5 megs :-)
That memory must be available to psrt to operate.
- Requires DOS4GW.EXE, a special dos extender for Watcom C++ applications
"What advantage will running this do for me?"
PSRT has more than one purpose.. It's original design was to be a
speed-up for my mail processor. Squish, Jam, and *.MSG users will
notice the biggest speed increase, as it won't have to open and
close each message base nearly as often. On my particular setup,
PSRT doubles my speed with Squish, and even makes Gecho noticable
faster than normal. For another person in our area, running EzyComm,
his tossing speed when from 1/sec to 9/sec..
Secondly; PSRT sorts by subject and time/date. This means that
all of the messages for a given subject will be grouped together,
which facilitates reading. When I get interested in one topic, I
hate to have to jump all over the message base to follow it. Also,
I see the original messages, BEFORE the replies, because of the
time/date sort. Really handy with the lag time of fidonet
technology.
Last, is a feature I myself will never use, but was a 15 minute fix
to add in. Satellite options such as "PLANET_CONNECT" give you the
entire backbone, even if you only want 50-100 of the areas. Not
too many mail tossers handle this very gracefully. PSRT will read
your AREAS.BBS (if it's in the current directory), and ONLY output
the messages that are in the areas you want, and throws the rest of
them away. This allows you to stop getting hundreds or thousands of
messages in your bad mail directory.
"(Hubs) What advantage will running this do for my feeds?"
If you sort YOUR inbound files out, then, for the most part, the
output of your mail processor will also be sorted,
making things work faster for your downlinks. They would be able
appreciate the same speedup that you do. They will also be amused
at 4:00am seeing it toss alphabeticly. :-)
"When are you going to make an OS/2 version?"
Go away. Use your DOS box. :-)
Seriously, though, I do not plan on doing OS/2 until I have the
resouces (that's RAM, I've only got 4 megs on my machine, grr). I
also need to get the CD-ROM and IBM's technical reference, which
adds up to another couple hundred bucks. I have no clue as to what
libaries I would have to purchase, either. Luckily, the compiler
itself, supports OS/2 - once I have the technical and referece
requirements met.
I will make OS/2 versions out of almost all of my utilities,
including these weeny onces like PSRT, once I have the ability.
If you have a spare CD-ROM, and a spare copy of the cd's needed,
and need to put them in a safe home, email me ;-)
Jason Fesler, 1:203/7707
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 2234
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/11/94 9:52p
Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan 02 23:53>, Boyd Goodin writes:
BG> Sure. The flag file is the UPLD.LST file but a very special one.
Ok, makes sense.
BG>Hope this problem has cleared up/
It's been running virutally unattented for over a week (My boss said I had to
work for him for a change) and so far has exited every 3 to 4 hours every day.
Whatever you did, seemed to fix it. Thanks!
I have been getting a number of FDN files that fail CRC checks. When
decompressed, they usually show crc errors in the archive. Had a 1meg+ file
today that produced exception 13s everytime I tried to unzip it. Are you doing
CRC checks on inbound FDN files?
later
D.
--- msgedsq 2.0.5
* Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2235
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/11/94 9:42p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jim,
10 Jan 94, 09:00, Jim St. John wrote to All:
JJ> I assume that the 3615/51 seenby was added by my system when
JJ> the message came back down? Since the message (coming back) is
JJ> addressed to 3615/51, does that mean it will ignore the fact that
JJ> it already has a seenby of 231/285 and import it anyway?
It depends on what you're using as a tosser. Tosscan ignores seen-bys.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LISA GRONKE Number: 2236
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/12/94 3:56p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You can't expect your tosser not to toss messages that have your node# in the
SEEN-BY line. After all, in a conventional setup, all messages arriving in
bundles for you have your node number in the SEEN-BYs.
As to why your dupe checker is not catching them, what tosser are you using?
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: IMS BBS +1 503 254-2817 * 16.8k ZyXEL (1:105/69)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 2237
To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/12/94 3:24p
Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Fred!
11 Jan 94, Fred Seibel writes to John Lyon:
-> ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa
-> ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau
-> ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g
-> ->> these?
->>
->> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now.
->>
->>
FS> Ditto,
FS> Two days in a row now.
FS> BUT, the probelm that this causes is that
FS> my system wanted to send them to George Peace
FS> at Protostar!!
FS> Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up,
FS> FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!!
FS> Oh well!!!
They got delivered here both times to the same point, 1:105/40.44 I still
haven't heard a peep out of him. I didn't say anything because I was wondering
how long it would take him to ask me about it.
Albert
--- GoldED 2.42.G1218+ TeamOS/2 - A Net105 Hub
* Origin: Albert Gaylord's System (1:105/40)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 2238
To: ALL Date: 01/12/94 3:35p
Subj: Garbage Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
=============================================================================
* Forwarded by Albert Gaylord (1:105/40)
* Area : NETMAIL (D'Bridge Netmail Area)
* From : GapiTrack Script Exampdfrey, 3615/50 (07 Jan 37 00:00)
* To : 1:105/40.44
* Subj : ReTaLIX't
=============================================================================
ack" script exampdfeiginGAPen: *stion s:
===================[GAP.slt]=============================
aod.otraPkstatus, 't impT_1,T_2,T_3;
Mtao() 't{ 't T_1 =otraPk("Whis p theLRS> Color? (Y/N/Help) [Ene
[snip]
ttt$$$$$$$ Bruceythe fat$$$$$$$$ TACE BBS!t$$$$$$$$ Co-SysOpt$$$$$$$
FreeMtag rS09
-+- GEcho MICROTECH BBS, NEWPORT NEWS,VA, 804-595-8664, MESSAGES/DOORS/FILEL
(9271/160andard (1:3271/1 1
==============================================
Here is another one. I am sticking it in since it shows an origin line. Is it
a problem with 1:3271/1 or is the problem at PC?
Along with this type of message, I get another one directed to 105/40.44 that
is totally blank except the first line which says Jeremy D'Amour.
Inneresting ;-)
Albert
---
* Origin: Albert Gaylord's System (1:105/40)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KERRY SUTLEY Number: 2239
To: ALL Date: 01/13/94 3:14p
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boyd and All,
Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either convert them
to Fido msg format to be processed by my tosser (GECHO) or a stand
alone that will do both. Any Ideas out there???
Thanks Kerry Sutley
* OLX 2.1 TD * A little a'disk & a little a'data
* Origin: MACHINERY ONLINE * Guys Mills, Pa. * 814-789-4336
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: 1:/2601/581 (1:2601/581)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2240
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/13/94 4:24p
Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tuesday January 11 1994 16:05, Bill Roper wrote to John Lyon:
-> ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa
-> ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau
-> ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g
-> ->> these?
->>
->> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now.
->>
->>
->> -+- WM v3.10/92-0069
->> + Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0)
->>
BR> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages,
BR> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't
BR> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you
BR> know what that does to message pointers (g).....
BR> is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other
BR> Wildcat tossers experiencing this?
BR> Bill....
BR> -+- WM v3.10/91-0097
BR> + Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
Hello Bill!
Same thing happeded to me under QuickBBS/Freemail...
on monday 10th & Tuesday 12th..
After deleting my messagebase and re-tossing all of Mondays Mail bundles, I
discovered there was several dosen Corrupt messages that were tossed as Netmail
and over 400 Dups in three Areas.. 80XXX, 4DOS and 60S_70S_PROGROCK echos in
several *.PKT,
one bundle was soo bad that if hung my mail processor, after I deleted that
*.PKT the rest of the *.PKT tossed ok..
I don't understand why PCUTILS.EXE, accepted those Bundles and passed them on
to my TOSS directory...
Same thing happended on 11th and I had to Delete my Messagebase, and delete
several *.PKT's that PKZIP 2.04g said had bad CRC's, before I could Retoss the
Mail for the 11th..
So far WED mail has tossed and processed OK..
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2241
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/13/94 4:36p
Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Wednesday January 12 1994 11:10, Terry Blount wrote to John Burton:
TB> John Burton wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
JB>> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got
JB>> your ABOUT file in return...
TB> I'll put it on hold for you. I don't know why so many people are getting
TB> it and some don't?
TB> -+- timEd-A10c
TB> + Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
Hello Terry!
I have a Clue...
I Assume you have made it available by a MAGIC Name DIZ2BBS and not by a
Wildcard like DIZ2BBS.* or DIZ2BBS.???
you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a Magic name for
File Request..
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2242
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 9:47a
Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim St. John wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
-> Unfortunately if there is no File_id.diz there is nothing short
-> of manually reading the docs that anyone can do to get a
-> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the
-> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be
-> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me
-> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use
-> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the
-> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work.
JSJ> Terry I remember you talking about this earlier, but don't
JSJ> remember the specifics. If you could re-post a specific
JSJ> description of what you are trying to do with ARJ I will
JSJ> forward it to the Rime ARJ conference, the author hangs out
JSJ> there, and I suspect he would know if anyone would! -jim-
Normally the ">" or ">>" will redirect _everything_ that is
written to the screen to a file.... HOWEVER when running Arj
with the "S" parameter to make it redirect the File_id.diz to
the screen the name of the archive the File_id.diz came from
_IS_ written to the screen but not to the file the description
is written to.
The results is a bunch of descriptions in text file with no hint
of what archive they came out of. With pkunzip the following
command works perfectly:
Pkunzip /c * *.diz >> outfile
Each description is preceded by the archive name in the outfile.
This should do the same thing with arj archives:
Arj s -y * *.diz >> outfile
But the name of the file is _NOT_ saved to the outfile although
it is written to the screen.
Thanks... I hope you understand the problem.
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: STEVE HUSK Number: 2243
To: ALL Date: 01/15/94 10:00p
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everone. This is our fist message to Planet Connect. Just wanted to
see how things are working.
Steve Husk
--- SLMAIL v3.5 (#0999)
* Origin: County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON BUCHANAN Number: 2244
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/16/94 6:23p
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hey Boyd! what's up?
I still wanna see an OS/2 PTCCMAIN.EXE or at least one that works reliably in
DV ;-)
ciao,
jsb
* Origin: Inside Ok! - +1-417-624-0000 - Joplin, MO USA - (1:286/702)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 2245
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/16/94 3:17p
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BR>-> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now.
BR>it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages,
BR>delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't
BR>fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you
BR>know what that does to message pointers (g).....
BR>
BR>is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other
BR>Wildcat tossers experiencing this?
We are getting them down here to, but PCBoard handles them just fine
without message base corruption.
I used to get lot's of message base corruptions while running WILDCAT
3.90/Wildmail and quickly changed from the Wildcat BBS software to
PCBoard 15.0. Never had any message corruptions anymore after that!!
Sorry to hear you're having problems with your message bases.
TTYL
Jacobo Oduber - sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS - coming to you from SUNNY ARUBA
---
■ JFO ■ Equality......when's it coming?
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: (1:18/21)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2246
To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/19/94 11:56a
Subj: Re: PCUTILS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>John, the February 1 date problem with Pcutils is coming up soon. Any
>idea if you will have an update ready by then?
>
>SEBASTIAN ACOSTA
Sebastion,
What Fef 1 date problem are you talking about?
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2247
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/19/94 10:46a
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->
-> BR> using WCUUCP here, and as far as I can tell, it works just fine.
->
-> Bill, where can I get WCUUCP?
Mustang... I jumped on it as soon as it was released, but if I
were doing it now, I would get WILDUUCP from OCR as well as WCUUCP
and compare them.... OCR has a txt file comparing the performance
of the two, and WILDUUCP looks to be much faster...
cheers..
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2248
To: DON KULHA Date: 01/19/94 11:41a
Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> A conversation with the folks at PC yesterday yielded: "90-95%, bu
-> -> probably no 'x-rated' stuff". Sounds like no "alt.sex"! And they
-> -> still working on pricing apparently.
->
-> BR> that is going to be a BIG disappointement to many users.....
->
-> BR> (including me...)
->
-> Maybe even to the folks at PC but they're pretty sharp folks. Wha
-> think the draconian folks who arrested Tony Davis would do if they fo
-> was spraying them with ALT.SEX from a sat? What if some of the conten
-> deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of banned material can
-> serious charge. I don't know all the applicable laws but I don't thin
-> folks at PC, wisely, want to become a test case. I don't think it's w
-> compromising the existance of a very beneficial service to the net to
-> these conferences.
but they are already being sprayed with alt.sex from a satellite....
PAGESAT has been doing it for awhile now, carrying the ENTIRE
Usenet feed, INcluding the alt.sex stuff..... I believe they
are on K2, which is very copiable here in East Texas, and
equally so in OK...
hell.... no one is safe from those that would protect us
from ourselves (g)......
cheers....
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DANIEL LANSALL Number: 2249
To: ALL Date: 01/19/94 2:48p
Subj: Mac Distribution Network Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings.
MDN doesn't seem to be getting you this node. Any ideas why?
I heard a 'link' was 'cut'. Any word on when it will be back?
Daniel,
Prince George, B.C.
Canada
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2250
To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/19/94 7:17p
Subj: PCUTILS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SA> John, the February 1 date problem with Pcutils is coming up
SA> soon. Any
SA> idea if you will have an update ready by then?
Sabastian, I will be releasing a v199c.beta version no latter then the 26th of
January with the full 2.00 doc file, I know the 199c is stable and if the 2.00
release is not ready by that date at least the 1.99 will get everyone that is
using PCUtil around the date change problem and also get the index structure
ready for the 2.00 final release. Things have been going a little slower here
then I would like but I guess the cause of the problem is ME, every time I
look at the code I change my mind, get in there and start messing around, and
well you know how it is 10 minutes of code change 10 hours of debug... ;-)
John......
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOB OYLER Number: 2251
To: BOYD GOODWIN AND ALL PLANET CONNECT Date: 01/19/94 12:17p
Subj: Internet Message Feeds - A way back in. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd & All Planet Connect Sites
Looking for some way to feed your usenet postings
and e-mail back into the Internet. Look no farther.
DATABANK WANTS YOUR BUSINESS. We carry a full newsgroup
feed that is up to the minute. Our access rates are only
$10. per month or $50 per year. There are no setup fees.
DATABANK
Your Key to the Internet
DATABANK is a unique Internet Service Provider.
DATABANK has a cursor key controlled "INTERNET MADE EASY"(sm)
Full Internet Access service. Choose thousands of telnet sites
from the menu.
Use Archie services by filling in the form.
Find a binary file and press your download key to FTP it home.
Gopher,IRC,WWW,and WAIS are also menu driven.
This is the most complete access in the country and
DATABANK is the only BBS to provide it.
ALL the news groups(5800+), Clarinet(UPI news feed),
and many other nets including the entire FIDO backbone
make up DATABANK'S 10,000 plus message areas.
All messages are available in QWK, FIDO, or UUCP formats.
Thousands of files are readily available in 25 major categories
with many subcategories beneath each major one.
DATABANK pricing is second to none.
"INTERNET MADE EASY"(sm) costs just $10.00 per
month for 30 hours access. There are no setup fees.
First time callers can get immediate access with
an automated credit card subscription process.
We are the first BBS to join CIX (Commercial Internet Exchange).
We are deploying a nationwide access network.
800 number access will soon be obtainable for $5.00 per hour.
Dial-up and dedicated SLIP/PPP, 14.4, 28.8, 56k, T-1
leased lines and frame relay connections are also available.
DATABANK's customer service help desk is staffed with experienced
personnel to help get the novice users up and running.
"Internet Plug & Play"(sm), a fully configured BSDI Internet host
computer with DNS, SMTP, NNTP and POP3 and News Readers,
is available to ease the BBS and corporate market's entry
onto the INTERNET.
We offer the best value available.
Please feel free to contact me for further information.
Sincerely yours,
Bob Oyler
President
DATABANK
DATA: 913-842-7744
1473 Hwy 40, Lawrence, KS 66044
Voice: (913) 842-6699 Fax: (913) 842-8518
email info@databank.com
FIDO 1:299/777
--- DB 1.54/004681
* Origin: Databank (1:299/777)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2252
To: FRANK SCHEEL Date: 01/20/94 2:10p
Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does that mean that we can reasonably expect to see it work in an OS2
> environment? If so, has the company given you any idea of when this might
> happen?
> Later,
> <_Frank_>
depends on how willing IBM is towards working with Aztec on a solution.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2253
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/20/94 2:13p
Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> You're not, as it happens. I've been receiving replies from all over the
> world (literally).
Good!
> Just to straighten out some confusion (please bear with me, I'm a tad
> slow sometimes -- anyone in my net will vouch for that!):
> It is NOT all right for Jeff to add 3615/51 to the seenbys.
> Is it all right for Jeff to add 3615/50 to the seenbys?
> (IOW: Does Jeff add that number to the seenbys because that
> is the node he's supposed to send the outbound packets to?)
His system will automatically add 50 to the seenbys. 51 is the uplink. If
anything comes in with 541 in the seenbys then it never makes it over the
satellite. If you are receiving replies then everything is working right.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2254
To: TIM JACOBS Date: 01/20/94 2:16p
Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> The "LOCK" will not work under OS2.
>> ..Boyd
> I hope you aren't just leaving it at that!
> Let get this working on a real operating system!
Tim I spent an hour on the phone with IBM and got no farther ahead than if I
did not call them at all. I got the impression that they dont realy care about
finding a solution. No wonder they are losing money. ;-)
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2255
To: STEVE HUSK Date: 01/20/94 3:30a
Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <17 Jan 94 23:54:00>, STEVE HUSK (1:157/576) writes:
SH>>Hello, Steve. I'm a newcomer here too -- maybe we can learn
SH>together.
SH>
SH>Hi, yes I am sure we can. I really love this thing, so far so good :)
I'm anxious to get started also. Have you received your equipment yet? Mine
was supposed to be shipped on the 18th -- I got the preliminary video and
'location instruments'...
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2256
To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/20/94 3:39a
Subj: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <17 Jan 94 23:04:00>, John Hrusovszky (1:238/300) writes:
JH>With this message, the Twilight Zone BBS now joins this echo.
Hello, John. Long time no argue... :-)
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2257
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/20/94 3:49a
Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <18 Jan 94 21:17:34>, Bill Roper (1:3801/1) writes:
BR>-> Sounds pretty simple, Bill. I'm a newcomer also and I probably
BR>-> won't be getting my equipment for another week or two. I wonder if you
BR>-> could give a brief outline of how a typical download works with
BR>-> approximate process times? Assuming that you begin receiving a Fido
BR>I have an event that starts at 0645, which is a few minutes
BR>earlier than the first of the days transmission begins... when
BR>all the files have been received, they send something that causes
BR>the software to exit with an errorlevel, and that starts the
BR>processing at this end....
That's Texas time, so it should be the same here in LA.
BR>the time it takes depends on how much is coming... one of the
BR>first things they send is UPLD.LST, which is a complete list
BR>of what is coming that day... as soon as they finish all of
BR>it, they start over again... has been running upwards of
BR>3 hours....
You evidently process the UPLD.LST to prepare your directories for tossing,
huh?
BR>-> And I assume the transmissions run 24 hours -- can you just jump in
BR>-> and start copying, or do you have to wait until a specific time before
BR>-> you can receive data?
BR>
BR>yup... and you can jump in anytime...
Assuming a 3 hour package, then there would be about 8 repeats in a 24 hour
period, I suppose. That should be plenty of time to get corrections.
Thanks for the summary.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2258
To: BOB ROSS Date: 01/20/94 7:13p
Subj: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Katherine Schroeder, Bob Ross said:
> Hello Katherine!
> 16 Jan 94 10:40, Katherine Schroeder wrote to All:
> KS> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron
> KS> since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some
> sent
> KS> this past week have received no replies.
> KS> Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I can
> KS> tell via date whether the system's working here. Thanks.
> Arrived here in cool Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
> Bob
> --- GoldED 2.41
> * Origin: RJ's Byteline V32b/V.FC (403) 247-3180 Calgary
> CANADA (1:134/75.1)
I have you loud and clear here in South Alabama... Sysop The Multimedia
Connection 1:18/16
---
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565.3394 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 2259
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/20/94 5:23p
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> true. It's impossible to automate a system with this kind of
-> situation. You need to send something letting everyone know what's
-> happening. If you disagree
If you really want it completely automated, you could just delete
everything that you haven't set up to go somewhere.
No matter how automated I get this thing, I suspect I'll always check
the directories every day to see if there is anything unusual. PCBoard
made it fairly easy to handle the files with no tics. Just logged into
the board and uploaded *.zip from the PC files dir and they all went in
with no further intervention on my part.. (Ok, I did have to move them
from the upload dir to the games dir which took another minute or two).
It seems like I've seen importers for files that contain a .diz for just
about every BBS software. Maybe one of these could be added to your
processing after you've pulled out the files with .tics..? Then you
could handle them just like files uploaded by a caller.
The Apogee games arrived on one of the first days I had the dish set up.
I had no idea there would be stuff like this and was very pleased to see
them!
Mike
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe, IN * 219-453-4046 * V32t/HST (1:236/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2260
To: DON KULHA Date: 01/20/94 8:17a
Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Don!
Saturday January 15 1994 12:51, Don Kulha wrote to Bill Roper:
DK> Maybe even to the folks at PC but they're pretty sharp folks. What do
DK> you think the draconian folks who arrested Tony Davis would do if they
DK> found out PC was spraying them with ALT.SEX from a sat? What if some of
DK> the content is deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of
DK> banned material can be a very serious charge.
The areas have been transmitted by the government computers for years..
Across state and international lines..
Rick
--- GoldED 2.41+
* Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2261
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/20/94 4:43p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GC> There are several approaches, but the one I used to use was, with the
GC> wonderful built-in line and string functions of 4Dos,
GC> to isolate the filename from within each existing .tic
GC> file, then use an if exist to check whether or not the matching file was
GC> present. If so, move it to a processable dir. If not
GC> have MButil post a warning msg to me and move the
GC> unmated .tic to a holding dir. Once all .tics had been
Since I wrote that original statement, I've had cause to eat my words on at
least two other occasions. Now, it's two. <g> Since I'm using OS/2, it's
easier to write a small program to take care of the situation. One fellow in
our net has written a program to seperate the TICed files from the non TICed
files, and I believe I'm going to go ahead and expand the concept to include
the ability to check for a file_id.diz and post the files in a seperate
directory with a FILES.BBS. Of course, as you said, at some point it takes
operator intervention to move the files to their appropriate area and to check
the files that haven't any file_id.diz. Depending on the size of your system
and the amount of work one is already involved in, automation, at some point,
becomes a practical must. My original point was, and you've confirmed it, at
some point, you have to take over and MANUALY work with the orphaned files.
Thanks,
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2262
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/20/94 4:54p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WS> Surely, you just!? I think a few bytes of .BAT file is more
WS> approprate than a large program on a large multi-line
WS> system. I was only letting you know for your edification
JF> I'm missing something; are you running gateway.exe
JF> without dos4gw? (gateway.exe explicitly looks for and
JF> loads dos4gw in the stub).
My point is that I DON'T run gateway, and a .BAT file can be used to kick OS/2
into a DOS session when the offending DOS *.exe won't.
Very happy to hear about PSRT coming with the ability read the AREAS.BBS where
it's located. Keep up the good work.
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2263
To: DON KULHA Date: 01/20/94 9:34a
Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Don Kulha wrote in a message to Bill Roper:
DK> Maybe even to the folks at PC but they're pretty sharp
DK> folks. What do you think the draconian folks who arrested
DK> Tony Davis would do if they found out PC was spraying them
DK> with ALT.SEX from a sat? What if some of the content is
DK> deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of banned
DK> material can be a very serious charge. I don't know all the
DK> applicable laws but I don't think the folks at PC, wisely,
DK> want to become a test case. I don't think it's worth
DK> compromising the existance of a very beneficial service to
DK> the net to bring in these conferences.
I don't understand how they would look at that any worse than the fact that
every single University in the Country carries them. I have talked to the news
server guy at my alma mater, and he says that they do carry those groups, but
the second that someone complains they would drop them.
So far they have had no complaints. I personally think we ought to try and put
them out there and then if someone complains take them off the Satellite.
Although the people in fidonet seem to have a lot more time to whine and
complain than the usenet people do.
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUONG Number: 2264
To: RIC WALSH Date: 01/20/94 2:48p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of (18 Jan 94 23:28:28), Ric Walsh wrote to John Luong:
RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell
RW> you everything you want to know.
Thank you. I'll have to check that out.
Thanks again.
John
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2265
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/20/94 10:29p
Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Craig Clark:
RH> Craig Clark wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar:
CC> Lantastic-Z will work on Micochannel, ISA or EISA as it just
CC> uses the serial or parallel ports. For ethernet, you can
CC> get Microchannel, ISA or EISA boards.
RH> Thanks for the info Craig. I have Lantastic-Z but I lost the
RH> cable like a week after I bought it and lost interest in it
RH> right away. Do you know if those cables are anything special
RH> for the parallel or serial ports? (Or better yet, do you
RH> know the pin configurations?)
You must have 'lost' the manual too.....The pin outs for both the serial and
parallel cables are in the manual. :)
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2266
To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/20/94 11:39p
Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> With this message, the Twilight Zone BBS now joins this echo.
SA> Boy its about time! I thought you would never do it, been
SA> reading your posts in the TVRO echo for a long time now. Glad
SA> you are here, I'm an 'old timer' here, been hooked up for a
SA> couple months now.
:-) This is really GREAT! Heck, I've been hooking up digital data
systems for quite a few years now for EDS, GM, HUGHES, etc., and I never
realized the need for us SysOps until I got my own PC system! This is
the neatest thing since SatTec R2B's! <VBG>.
--jah
... The Twilight Zone BBS * ASP HUB BBS #3 * MidCentral USA
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.01
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICHARD REED Number: 2267
To: ALL Date: 01/21/94 2:10a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to send mails
-> back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting this message out!!
->
-> Thank
-> Richard
->
-> --- QM v1.26/b
-> * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AGGGGGRRRR!! InterEcho got damn origin bug!! Glad I caught it.. Anyone know how
to add 3615/50 to seenby path for intermail?
Richard
--- InterEcho 1.00/b05
* Origin: M.T.C. Online BBS * Chesapeake, VA * 804-545-5083 (1:275/81)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2268
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/20/94 4:34p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> it takes me 20 minutes to do the tossing using GECHO, then I
-> -> unpack my pkt into \WM\PRETOSS and run WM PRETOSS to get mine
-> -> into Wildcat... whether by design or by accident, Wildmail
-> -> doesn't give a damn WHAT address is used when doing WM PRETOSS,
-> -> so it works well for me.... GECHO receives from 3615/50 and
-> -> tosses to 3801/1 (me) and Wildmail merrily tosses the pkt from
-> -> 3801/1 to 3801/1....
->
-> Bill I'm still confused as to exactly what GECHO does. Does it sor
-> the packets so that WIldmail can toss them faster?
it is a tosser that will toss into the hudson msg base as well as
a couple of others... it won't toss directly to Wildcat.. but
what it does do, and faster than Wildmail, is go through the entire
feed from the satellite, checks for dupes at a tremendous rate of
speed (compared to WM...) and toss to all of your downlinks, and
of course to you.....
after you get done with Gecho, unpack YOUR mail pkt into
\WM\PRETOSS and call WM with the PRETOSS switch... as in
WM PRETOSS
this makes Wildmail toss whatever is in that directory without
checking for dupes (or anything else for that matter.....) and
of course all you have in that pkt, is mail that is actually
destined for your bbs....
it is really a lot less complicated than it sounds.... I have
promised to put together a "how to" on what I am doing for Mark
Glenn by this evening, and I'll make it available to freq....
by the time you read this it will be available from 1:3801/1
as WC_GECHO.ZIP....
but as usual, all of the appropriate caveat's apply (g)....
it works here, but your mileage may vary....
-> -> doing everything with Wildmail alone took me almost 3 hours to
-> -> do on some days.....
->
-> Jees, if I could get it done in 3 hours I'd be happy!
too bad our tossers don't work like WCUUCP.... tossed 138
newsbags this morning... there was over 20 meg in the
directory... in only 15 minutes.... not too shabby...
cheers...
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2269
To: KIM PIERSON Date: 01/20/94 4:36p
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->
-> BR>does that translate to "my software is better than yours" (g).....
->
-> Now Bill, be nice....:)
->
-> BR>just part of the learning experience.... after all, if I wanted
-> >to live in an environment where nothing ever went wrong, I certain
-> >wouldn't have a computer around the house (g)...
->
-> And your wife may not have you around either....:)
my gosh.... do I have to put up with you EVERYwhere I go (g).....
you might want to reconsider leaving the other net... Wendy/Peter
bounced the offensive ones, and things have really cooled down....
glad we still have a place to rag each other....
cheers....
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 2270
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/19/94 11:59p
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan 17 13:48>, Jason Fesler of 1:203/7707.1 writes:
JF> Hector Mandel babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
HM>> I had no luck trying to get GIGO to read the .BAG
HM>> files. The docs say nothing about it (did I miss
HM>> something?)...it did not recognixe the .BAG files. What
HM>> needs to be done to get it to work with the .BAGs?
JF> What version?
JF> "BAGS C:\dirname\" enables BAG support on the more recent
JF> versions of GIGO. Make sure the version you have is dated
JF> 1994.
Thanks, Jason ... I was using a version from 1993. I'll give it a try.
--- msgedsq 2.1a
* Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2271
To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 01/19/94 10:07p
Subj: Re: testing... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 01-09-94 14:20, Paul Cormier munched on a Tribble and said to
All about testing...
PC> ! Origin: -≡ CompuBBS ≡- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 -
Gotcha message in Victoria, Texas today. Looks like you're getting out,
too.
-=<-Katherine->=-
... I'm here to question all your answers.
~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2272
To: ALL Date: 01/19/94 10:12p
Subj: Test Message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks to everyone who sent me confirmation that my test message of 16
January went out okay!
-=<-Katherine->=-
... I'm locked inside a chocolate factory... DON'T send help!
~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 2273
To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 01/19/94 8:03p
Subj: Planet_Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Monday January 17 1994, Bob Slowinski writes to Jim St. John:
Hello Bob!
>> Ken I think you are exaggerating just a tad here aren't
>> you?
BS> When I first read his response I must say I was rather let down, and did
BS> not think I would be able to get connected,
I apologize Bob, seems I should have been anywhere than at the keyboard that
day as I was in a mild RANT mood due to some system problems here caused by
being unprepared for extra-normal file dumps from PC. Indeed 10g's is too much.
Sorry for misleading you and besmirching the planet conect guys although, to be
very frank...I'm finding that the system required to be able to carry
everything they send, would DEFINATLEY have to have more than a gig worth of
hard drives here and there. the fidonet backbone (which I have put up for my
callers) is 110 megs with 200 messages per area (not very generous). If you
wanted to put up internet, its a 100 megs a day..so assume you wanted (for some
reason ALL of it) you'd need at least 700 megs to have some continuity of only
one week's worth of mail. add up all the utilities to handle and process and
show it to a bbs caller and you have a gig.
ok, thats worst case "MAIL ONLY" senario..but now add files, we get around 6
megs average per day. in one month, barring any extra heavy file dumps, you'll
have filled 120 megs in your average month. how much drive space do you have
allocated for that? naturally you may not want it all either (i personally have
no need for all the novell areas, gif, clipper, bla bla bla. but ..)
If you were to take full advantage of all the data PC is sending..gigs of drive
space would be the single most neccessary thing to make it all work. I
upgraded from 400 to 550 and it was full in one week. Easy to say "Delete
stuff" but what to delete? that great program from a month ago? or the stuff
that just came in? <grin>
'sides...a bigger system is always the goal regardless of PC or not <smile>
Cheers, Ken
...And today will go down in history as Wednesday January 19 1994
--- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOB ROSS Number: 2274
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/19/94 9:49p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
19 Jan 94 01:30, Boyd Goodin wrote to Wallace Sheldon:
BG> One thing I
BG> have learned from all this is that no matter what I do to add things there
BG> are some that are going to complain.
I'm quite sure I could do a dissertation on this subject Boyd. It's a "fact of
life" when you provide services to a group of individuals of our food chain
:-).
Bob
--- GoldED 2.41
* Origin: RJ's Byteline V32b/V.FC (403) 247-3180 Calgary CANADA (1:134/75.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2275
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/20/94 4:58p
Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH> Do you know if those cables
RH> are anything special for the parallel or serial ports?
RH> (Or better yet, do you know the pin configurations?)
I don't have a Lantastic-Z manual sitting around here, but the pinouts are in
the back. You can't use a standard parallel cable, although a laplink cable
might work for the serial side. Check the back of your manual - if you're
handy with a soldering iron you'll have no trouble building one.
-=- Craig.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2276
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/20/94 7:33p
Subj: Re: lannet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> Is "lannet" a PC group or a Fidonet area.. I can't find
DP> neither in my ACONFIG.SKY or FIDONET.NA/NO files.
it's a fido file echo..it's in the filebone flagged as on the backbone...it's
for lantastics...haven;t seen anything since i switched over to planet
connect..
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: BAYOU BBS ## West Monroe, LA ## 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2277
To: TIM JACOBS Date: 01/20/94 7:24p
Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >> I'm going to be switching to Os/2 within a couple of weeks. Is th
-> >> way to make the dongle work under OS/2? I'd like to cut everythin
-> >> to working on one system, instead of 3 machines running under Lan
->
-> > The "LOCK" will not work under OS2.
-> > ..Boyd
->
-> I hope you aren't just leaving it at that!
->
-> Let get this working on a real operating system!
->
-> Tim Jacobs -
Nice to know that you recognize DOS, DESQview and
NOVELL 3.11 as a "real operating system". ;)
--- WM v3.10/91-0063
* Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 2278
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/20/94 11:46p
Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> sorry that the one genealogy echo has to bite the dust, so to
> speak :-)
Hmmm....I missed any reference to the genealogy echo being chopped. Which echo
was that....?
Regards/.......Murray
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: (1:351/444)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2279
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/20/94 8:30p
Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> DP> Will PTCCMAIN.EXE work within a DOS box under OS/2?
>No Dave, for the same reason as stated above. I'm running OS/2, also, and
>would love to see it work under OS/2. Sure would make things a lot easier.
> Wally
Wally,
Thanks.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2280
To: ALL Date: 01/21/94 1:03a
Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How in the world are you other PCBoard BBS's out there adding your usenet
newsgroups?? Manually? You can't just import PCUSENET.TXT into the likes of
PCB-uuCP or UUPCB as it does not contain all the necessary information such as
if it is moderated and if so by whom... I'm at a loss as to where to start
unless we get an active list of usenet groups with the rest of the needed
info... I mean won't we get in trouble if we set a usenet newsgroup as
non-moderated and let messages go out? I want to start taking advantage of the
usenet feeds, but I cannot because I don't have the proper info to set them up
yet... please help me out someone out there that runs a PCBoard and has set up
their system with the new newsgroups... HELP!!!!
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2281
To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/20/94 9:36p
Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Richard Reed to All ***
RR> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to
RR> send mails back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting this
RR> message out!!
RR>
RR> Thank
RR> Richard
Nope, something must be wrong...didn't make it out...
Glenn
---
* Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ALEX STUART Number: 2282
To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/20/94 1:38p
Subj: testing... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GV> Looks fine here on the West Coast of Canada....Nice to see
GV> more Canadian sites springing up....
How about more Victoria sites :-). I'll be up and running soon.
-- Alex.
--- FastEcho/386 B1130
* Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2283
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/19/94 10:40a
Subj: Phone Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd, does PC have a 800 number or what is a voice number I can call to talk to
a sales person.
Thanks..
P.S. I sent you net mail requesting the info packet your sales people send out.
last week. Acknowledgment would be nice. :{)
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK HENNEKE Number: 2284
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/21/94 6:52a
Subj: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Camero
-> last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent thi
-> week have received no replies.
->
-> Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I ca
-> date whether the system's working here. Thanks.
->
-> -=<-Katherine->=-
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00
-> * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:
->
->
Hello Katherine it seems your messages are getting out to Gonzales TX
ok.
Mark Henneke
--- WM v3.10/93-0104
* Origin: RANGER STATION (210) 672-2219 (1:19/21)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2285
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/21/94 6:04p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> too bad our tossers don't work like WCUUCP.... tossed 138
-> newsbags this morning... there was over 20 meg in the
-> directory... in only 15 minutes.... not too shabby...
I am using WILDUUCP (from the same folks who brought you WILDMAIL) and
it's amazing how much faster it is. I have WCUUCP but haven't tried it
yet. I suppose I need to do that before my demo key for WILDUUCP runs
out.
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2286
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/20/94 10:14p
Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill Whitehouse wrote in a message to All:
BW> I mean, why let two programs confuse matters when
BW> you're dealing with essentially the same function:
BW> requesting areas. And SEAL is exceptionally well done.
BW> Trouble is, SEAL apparently won't recognize same-zone
BW> AKAs (aka 3615/51), and it's author responds to neither
BW> netmail, nor unsolicited cash.
BW> Anyone else here ever get SEAL to work properly?
yep I run it over here no problems, check out the TUB echo, Robert is in there
every single day. I get replies back from him all the time, but never through
netmail, just through the echo, and seal is a great! prg. Although I haven't
had time to put the new version in yet.
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2287
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/20/94 10:17p
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill Whitehouse wrote in a message to All:
BW> Otherwise, those lists are impentrable.
BW> Know of any utility or door that employs that data to
BW> make on-line searching and area requesting a bit less
BW> daunting? Something capable of scanning the elist and
BW> tagging area names so users could toggle areas on their own?
you mean like a offline reader door?
just give all of the echos to your users and let them download fidonet.na, and
figure out what they want.
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF MURPHY Number: 2288
To: DON KULHA Date: 01/20/94 9:07p
Subj: Mr. Pierce Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> MP> To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever
> Hey, did you notice that the sunrise was a little
> brighter and the air a little fresher this morning? Nice
> day isn't it!
You had sex last night, didn't you. :-)
---
* Origin: Mother Murphy's Point Portland, OR (1:105/222.3)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2289
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/21/94 10:56a
Subj: Re: Notice! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> from PC and they aren't in either the ECHOLIST.NA or NO.
>Many of the echos you listed appear in FidoNet.Na or .No and therefore are
>properly being carried on the bird. Some of them are quite important
>conferences :-) The thing is that an echo does not need to be listed in the
>echolist to qualify, it needs to be listed in one of the fidonet.n? files.
Glenn,
Your right and I do stand corrected... of the list below I did find
the following areas in either the FIDONET.NA or .NO. The others
are not..
3RDPARTY_CLN
GENESIS_BETA --> In FIDONET.NA
GENESIS_SYSOP --> In FIDONET.NA
GT_ANSI
MACFILES
MSDNSYSOP
QMX_XRS --> In FIDONET.NO
SAN
SB_SYSOPS --> In FIDONET.NA
SDN_CONF
SDN_PUBLIC
SF_ANNOUNCE
UTILNET2
WDNET_ADMIN
WDNET_SYSO
WDN_ADM
>> WDN_ADM
>That one, BTW, is the companion echo to the WordProcessing Distribution
>Network file areas. If the file areas are transported, so too must be the
>user echo.
>.glenn.
>WDN Coordinator.
Glenn, I didn't mean to come across as not wanting them, it
would only be nice to know what they are, particularly if they
aren't described in the FIDONET lists and are being included as
part of FIDO echos.
BTW. Don't some areas have restrictions applied to them..?
ie.. must be member of said net or sysop/administrator only.
That sort of info would also be nice to know.
Thanks
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL MCNAIR Number: 2290
To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/21/94 11:11p
Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Glenn Vermette to Richard Reed <=-
GV> *** Quoting Richard Reed to All ***
RR> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to
RR> send mails back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting this
RR> message out!!
RR>
RR> Thank
RR> Richard
Nope - Sorry Richard ....... didn't make it to Hamilton, Ontario.
Jan.21st, 1994 22:38 hrs.
But keep on trying.
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
---
* RoseMail 2.10*: NaNet, Eclectic, Lynden, ON (519) 647-3660
--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e'
* Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 2291
To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/21/94 5:35p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am a FidoNet NEC and I am testing a Grunged Message Detection program. I
> have it running smoothly (only testing and no messages are deleted or
stopped)
> but need some input from you.
I started running GMD here a few days ago to clean up our own mail feeds, and
I found a number of interesting things. If allowed to do so, it would
generate a LOT of complaint messages. Everything from multiple origin lines,
data missing, data not in correct order, origin lines too long, non-ASCII
characters (above 127), future dates (wrong year), old dates (wrong year) etc.
As the author (correctly) points out, using it can violate FidoNet policy very
easily if allowed to do so.
I don't know how others feel about this issue, but these grunged messages were
causing my mail tosser to hiccup, and generate NEW (grunged) outgoing
messages. To make a long story short, if a message is seriously damaged, I
kill it here, as well as the outgoing messages that GMD creates.
What I would *personally* like to see is every NEC run GMD, and send these
complaint messages BACK to the nodes under it, but NOT send complaint messages
elsewhere to the net. I think this would help a number of systems clean up
the mail packets that they create, and make sure that they at least come close
to what is required...
When I first started running it, I was simply AMAZED at some of these messages
(and how far out of spec they are). Now, I just let GMD do its thing quietly
in the backround, and since I am only looking after my own feed, I can live
with the consequences of a few killed messages, and a mail tosser that is a
lot happier with what it gets.
>Tom<
--- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x]
* Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 2292
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/21/94 5:38p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jason.
Just a quick THANK YOU for the PSORT program - works like a charm. I am
glad to see that you will be adding support for having AREAS.BBS located
elsewhere, and if you could limit the size of the packets it creates, I
would be even happier. Off hand, looks pretty good for a first release!
>Tom<
--- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x]
* Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 2293
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/18/94 9:29a
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WS> BG> Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the
WS> BG> majority like what I did.
WS> BG>
WS> need to send something letting everyone know what's happening. If you
disagree
WS> with that, then we have SERIOUS problems!
Nope. YOU have a problem. The rest of us (as Boyd stated) are satisfied
with things the way they are. Big clumps of files without .TIC's are a
problem. But I'd rather have them than not, and it's unfair to expect
Boyd to sit down and describe these things. Instead, scream at the moron
who puts his files up without FILE_ID.DIZ or DESC.SDI. All of us who are
on the ball have automatic DIZ processors (and we use them anyway on the
TIC'ed stuff because the TIC's are only .5 lines) which make this stuff
easy.
Skaal,
White Viking -}-----*
*8)
---
* RoseReader 2.10* P004668 Entered at [VIKINGS COVE]
* RoseMail 2.10*: * NaNet 61/31/11 * Viking's Cove * (613)394-0685
--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e'
* Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2294
To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/22/94 1:50a
Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to
RR> send mails back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting
RR> this message out!!
Got it fine in Cold, Cold, Wisconsin! <G>.
--jah
... Veni, Vidi, Clinti -- I Came, I Saw, I Lied.
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.01
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SCOTT BROOKER Number: 2295
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/20/94 4:35p
Subj: Re: Lantastic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Check the back of your manual, you should find the pinouts for the lantastic Z
cables..
Scott.
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: *NETWORK23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5 LINES* (1:348/501)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2296
To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 01/21/94 4:30p
Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hmmm....I missed any reference to the genealogy echo being
> chopped. Which echo was that....?
I don't remember the exact tag, but it appeared to be a French genealogy echo
if I recall. It was in the list Boyd posted showing the "undesirables" :-) and
was tagged something like Genealogy.fr??
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2297
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/21/94 5:40p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Since I'm using OS/2, it's easier to write a small program to
> take care of the situation. One fellow in our net has written a
Wallace I think you're the second one I've seen saying they are using OS/2. How
do you get it to work with PTCCMAIN?
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TODD LYONS Number: 2298
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/21/94 9:29p
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Know of any utility or door that employs that data to make on-line
> searching and area requesting a bit less daunting? Something capable of
> scanning the elist and tagging area names so users could toggle areas on
> their own?
This is not an attack, it is a statement of facts. If you run a good bbs, you
can carry all the areas that come in, and you will have some sort of built in
"area selection" that the user can use to pick the areas (s)he wants to read
and ignore all the rest. RA calls it "Combined Reading" I dunno what the
others call it.
See ya Todd
--- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM
* Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TODD LYONS Number: 2299
To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/21/94 9:37p
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> AGGGGGRRRR!! InterEcho got damn origin bug!! Glad I caught it.. Anyone
> know how to add 3615/50 to seenby path for intermail?
I didn't think that you wanted to put 50 in the seenbys. Boyd would never see
it if you did that.
See ya todd
--- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM
* Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2300
To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/21/94 7:24a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> Let me know if anyone is gettting this message out!!
RR> * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50)
Message can through, but oh boy are you going to have problems with this tag
line and aka.... ;-)
John....
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2301
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/21/94 7:36a
Subj: Re: PCUTILS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> What Feb 1 date problem are you talking about?
Dave, due to a bug in the code of PCUtil, the control number:
0000FFFF.TU0 34376 FRIDAY 11-01-93
^^^^^
in the CHECK.IDX file will fall back 30 days instead on incrementing by 1 day
as it should, everything in the index will be wiped out on the first run after
midnite on the 1st, so there will be no index to do a dup verification by and
all files will be transferred to your holding directory wether thay have been
received or not. I will have PCFU in distribution before that time so you can
make a conversion over to it in a controlled situation and not dump a full day
of dup messages into the echo pool......
John......
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KIM PIERSON Number: 2302
To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/21/94 10:17p
Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BR>my gosh.... do I have to put up with you EVERYwhere I go (g).....
Yep, ya never know where I'll pop up :)
BR>you might want to reconsider leaving the other net... Wendy/Peter
>bounced the offensive ones, and things have really cooled down....
I may in a couple months, I'm going to let the LD drop awhile and see
how things are going to go at work with the new owners (the boss sold
the company last week to a large corp). Gotta save the pennies for
a larger HD with all the files that are dropping out of the sky now.
BR>glad we still have a place to rag each other....
Ya, I was going to miss that sense of humor of yours <G>.
Kim
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: Smoke Signals BBS Victoria Tx. 512-576-3990 (1:3802/218)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2303
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/22/94 7:27p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Since I'm using OS/2, it's easier to write a small program to
> take care of the situation. One fellow in our net has written a
GC> Wallace I think you're the second one I've seen saying
GC> they are using OS/2. How do you get it to work with PTCCMAIN?
I'm running PlanetC software on a seperate DOS machine, and sending the files
over a direct connect on my 8th line at 57,600. It appears that PTCCMAIN will,
itself, run in a DOS box on OS/2, but the Dongle won't work on OS/2. It's my
understanding that the folks at PC are trying to get the manufacture of the
Dongle to fix it so it will work on OS/2. It would be great to run everything
on one machine. Sure would beat a LAN setup with several machines to do the
job of one.
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2304
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/18/94 5:02p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one
BG> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones
BG> we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the
BG> days go by.The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory.
BG> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to
BG> check andsee what kind of administative nightmare this will be.
BG> ...Boyd
Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd?
I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will.
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2305
To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/20/94 9:15p
Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD> The place to ask would be HDCONF, Joe. Although I've not frequented
JD> that echo recently, it used to have some *very* knowlegable people in
JD> it.
I have it on here, but haven't posted anything yet. Maybe I will get around to
it tonight..
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2306
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/17/94 2:11p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of Tu 11-Jan-94 21:19, Jim St. John wrote:
JSJ> They will carry "90-95%" of the newsgroups, but probably
JSJ> not the 'x-rated' stuff.
So they're actually going to specifically not receive areas? The way UseNet
feeds are setup, is that when you request "Alt", you get everything under Alt,
unless you specifically remove it. So, if they don't want to carry the Alt.Sex
newsgroups, they'd specifically be removing them.
JSJ> They are still working on a pricing structure for folks
JSJ> who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff.
So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as well?
What kind of a setup are we looking at here?
---
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOB FRADY Number: 2307
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/22/94 8:40p
Subj: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR>Boyd,
RR>I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like the
RR>Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought I'd let you
RR>know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I hope you continue to
RR>add extra files like this.
Ditto! I had some already but the remainder was greatly appreciated.
Just had to install them manually, but I can live with it for those
surprises...
Bob
* OLX 2.1 TD * ...SYSOP \'sis ap\ n: the person laughing as you type...
--- WM v3.10/93-0191
* Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TODD LYONS Number: 2308
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/22/94 7:56p
Subj: NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> if you run this Nodediff.021 about 2/3rd of NET382 will be MISSING...
> you must return to using NODELIST.014, untill this bug is ixed next
> week?
Ummm that's kind of hard to do. Once the nodediff is processed, the new
nodelist is the only nodelist that I have :( I hope nobody needs to call you
direct in case of an emergency :) Thanks for the notice.
See ya Todd
--- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM
* Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PAUL MALLETT Number: 2309
To: TIM JACOBS Date: 01/22/94 3:25p
Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The "LOCK" will not work under OS2.
TJ> I hope you aren't just leaving it at that!
TJ> Let get this working on a real operating system!
This is a fault/feature of OS/2, not of the Planet Connect software. OS/2 does
not allow for direct access to hardware dongles. It's certainly conveivable
that IBM could change that, but in the mean time there is nothing that can be
done, except remove the dongle check. :>
--- timEd/2-B11
* Origin: Radio Free Echomail! 401.941.7851 (1:323/123)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2310
To: RICK ROSINSKI Date: 01/22/94 12:07p
Subj: Re: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like the
>Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought I'd let you
>know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I hope you continue
>to add extra files like this.
Rick,
Even though I had most of them already, I too appreciated the
service from Planet Connect.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2311
To: MARK HENNEKE Date: 01/22/94 1:45p
Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 01-21-94 06:52, Mark Henneke munched on a Tribble and said to
Katherine Schroeder about Test message
MH> Hello Katherine it seems your messages are getting out to Gonzales
MH> TX ok.
Hey there, Mark! I figured you were involved in this thing. :)
Yep, we've got things running now. Except that COM2 fried the other day
and Jeff had to reconfigure for COM1.
How's the userbase in Gonzales these days?
-=<-Katherine->=-
... We've missed you; we'll aim better next time!
~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2312
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/22/94 3:58p
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> too bad our tossers don't work like WCUUCP.... tossed 138
-> -> newsbags this morning... there was over 20 meg in the
-> -> directory... in only 15 minutes.... not too shabby...
->
-> I am using WILDUUCP (from the same folks who brought you WILDMAIL) an
-> it's amazing how much faster it is. I have WCUUCP but haven't tried
-> yet. I suppose I need to do that before my demo key for WILDUUCP run
-> out.
according to the comparison sheet that OCR put out, it is MUCH
faster than WCuucp, but I have a feeling that they compared it
to the first version that Mustang released...
cheers...
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2313
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/22/94 4:41p
Subj: NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> =====================================================================
-> * Forwarded by George Vandervort's Gerbils (1:382/8)
-> * Area : NET382-SYSOP
-> * From : George Vandervort, 1:382/8 (Friday January 21 1994 16:28)
-> * To : All
-> * Subj : NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD
-> =====================================================================
->
-> Hello All!
-> for those who ran NODEDIFF.A21 and can't find me in the Nodelist..
->
->
-> NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE
->
-> This weeks NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD..
did you make someone mad at you George (g)......
cheers...
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2314
To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/22/94 10:19p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>When I first started running it, I was simply AMAZED at some of these
>messages (and how far out of spec they are). Now, I just let GMD do its
>thing quietly in the backround, and since I am only looking after my own
>feed, I can live with the consequences of a few killed messages, and a mail
>tosser that is a lot happier with what it gets.
>>Tom<
Tom,
I would suspect that Fido is plagued with Grunged Messages.
Everyday I see violations and it only seems to grow.
Dupes are also another problem that many have been ignoring.
Most of the current/newer echomail tossing program, ie..
GEcho, FastEcho, Squish, can't keep track of any more than
64k to 128k of messages. With the total echomail traffic in
Fido nowadays, it doesn't take long for that threshold to be
reached. The old reliable ConfMail is capable of keeping track
of upto 6,000 per area, and with upto 600 areas, that would
allow 3,600,000 total messages to be kept track of. Dupes
don't slip by that often.
Heck, here are the stats from Boyd on the above topic alone.
> To: ALL Origin: 1:3615/50
> Duplicate Statistics
> ====================
> Period: 1994-01-21 to 1994-01-22
> TOTAL: 509
>--- QM v1.26/b
> * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50)
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2315
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/22/94 12:17p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> depends on how willing IBM is towards working with Aztec on a solution.
IBM has hosted TONS of seminars helping vendors port their device
drivers...I wonder how willing Aztec is to spend the money to make it
so?
Have you missed the message where someone recently said they would port
the code for you? It has been in the last week in this conference if I
am not mistaken.
--- RBBSMail/386 v0.991
* Origin: WER Development 318-345-1955 (1:136/1.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2316
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/22/94 12:17p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> Tim I spent an hour on the phone with IBM and got no farther ahead than i
BG>I did not call them at all. I got the impression that they dont realy care
BG>about finding a solution. No wonder they are losing money. ;-)
The division of IBM responsible for OS/2 continues to rake in the
cash, OS/2 sales last year were reported to be over 5 million and
steadily climbing -- don't let the hype from Microsoft and their
magazines pull the wool over your eyes.
Do you even know if you're calling the right folks at IBM -- I have
called many companies in the past and had difficulty getting past the
operators since I didn't know whom to ask for. Be willing to bet you a
$1 if you (or Aztec persons) were to post a rundown on the problem, and
inquire as to whom to contact at IBM or where to get info in the
OS2PROG conference (OS/2 Programming) in Fidonet you might be successful
and make lots of persons happy who no longer use DOS.
--- RBBSMail/386 v0.991
* Origin: WER Development 318-345-1955 (1:136/1.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2317
To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 01/22/94 10:17a
Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
John Lundell babbled profusely in a message to All:
JL> How in the world are you other PCBoard BBS's out there
JL> adding your usenet newsgroups?? Manually? You can't just
JL> import PCUSENET.TXT into the likes of PCB-uuCP or UUPCB as
JL> it does not contain all the necessary information such as if
JL> it is moderated and if so by whom... I'm at a loss as to
JL> where to start unless we get an active list of usenet groups
JL> with the rest of the needed info... I mean won't we get in
JL> trouble if we set a usenet newsgroup as non-moderated and
JL> let messages go out? I want to start taking advantage of
JL> the usenet feeds, but I cannot because I don't have the
JL> proper info to set them up yet... please help me out someone
JL> out there that runs a PCBoard and has set up their system
JL> with the new newsgroups... HELP!!!!
While I don't know much about PCBoard, I'd like to think I have a few clues on
the usenet stuff, as I had to learn them to write the gateway programo GIGO.
(shameless plug). Anyhow..
If you allow a user to post to a moderated newsgroup, when you send the
messages to your uplink, the uplink simply won't forward them, since they do
not contain the proper authorization. I wouldn't worry about breaking
something :-)
As to _where_ to get this information: Start watching news.answers and
news.lists; they usually every couple of weeks get an updated list posted
there, along with the moderators of the newsgorups. news.lists will be the
easier place to find this information.
Depending on who you are sending the email and newsgroups through (since you
can't do that through P.C.), they may already have the information you are
seeking. Ask your provider.
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12c
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2318
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/20/94 11:58p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jason,
19 Jan 94, 12:53, Jason Fesler wrote to Wallace Sheldon:
JF> Actually, as soon as the os/2 half of development finishes the
JF> updates, areas.bbs support in other directories has been added, as
JF> well as the ability to specify the max amount of memory to use.
Is there a max number of messages it can handle? I received about 17,000
messages at one time one day this week due to a backlog and it barfed. I
normally get 11,000 to 13,000 messages and it's handled that flawlessly. BTW,
I'm our NEC and get my feed from the NC, who owns the PC stuff. Therefore, I
don't have to process the whole back. I'm running in a VDM under OS/2 2.1 if
that matters.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2319
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/22/94 10:39a
Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wallace!
Tuesday January 18 1994 18:04, Wallace Sheldon wrote to Bill Roper:
BR>> using WCUUCP here, and as far as I can tell, it works just fine...
WS> Bill, where can I get WCUUCP?
WcUUCP is available from Mustang in Bakersfield, CA or check several
ads in Boardwatch which sell Mustang products at a discount. I inquired at
COMPUsa which now sells Wildcat! but does not offer any utilties or option
packages. List price is $299.00
I would like to suggest WILDuucp.... it's cheaper ($149), will do gating to
Fidonet packets, and generally has more options. The only potential downside is
for Wildcat! 4.x alpha and beta testers, the Mustang version will most likely
be available much sooner. Wilduucp does not include a printed manual, but the
300+ page manual on disk is well written and helped clear up a lot of confusion
about several questions I had connecting to a Internet service provider. The
Mustang printed manual is strictly a "how to use our software" booklet. On a
program to program comparison, they are very similar.
Wilduucp:
Online Computer Resources
Attn: Joe Martin
601 Sacramento Suite 1406
Vallejo, CA 94590
(707)552-1122
Fidonet 1:161/502
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2320
To: RIC WALSH Date: 01/22/94 10:29a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ric!
Tuesday January 18 1994 23:28, Ric Walsh wrote to John Luong:
JL>> I am writing a paper about communications satellites and was
JL>> wondering if anybody from Plannet Connect could tell me about
JL>> what satellite they broadcast through, and a little information
JL>> about it.
RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell you
RW> everything you want to know.
This is fine for a report or research, but I have noticed that a few details in
the article have changed or were left out. Our local Fido group has already
installed a PC dish, but I have also been looking at Plannet Connect and
several other services for Internet connectivity for two separate projects.
Getting detailed questions answered has been difficult, the response has been
little more than "buy a dish and you'll figure it out"......
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GARY CRAIN Number: 2321
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/21/94 2:50p
Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill Whitehouse wrote in a message to All:
BW> Anyone else here ever get SEAL to work properly?
It's working here for the echomail part, and quite well. The
files/tic part seem to be a little broken for arcmailattach mailers.
I'm working with the author to see what's wrong. If you need to talk
to Robert, he's quite active in "TUB" the Squish support area.
Regards,
Gary
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: Rendezvous!! 14.4_V32b_512-303-1324 (1:382/92)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 2322
To: ALL Date: 01/22/94 6:52p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all!
This is a test. Please respond
Marty
--- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219
* Origin: Marty's Mess OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 PVT (1:398/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2323
To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/22/94 2:56p
Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> SA> Boy its about time! I thought you would never do it, been
>> SA> reading your posts in the TVRO echo for a long time now. Glad
>> SA> you are here, I'm an 'old timer' here, been hooked up for a
>> SA> couple months now.
>> :-) This is really GREAT! Heck, I've been hooking up digital
>> data systems for quite a few years now for EDS, GM, HUGHES, etc.,
>> and I never realized the need for us SysOps until I got my own PC
>> system!
SA> Yep, the only problem so far is the tremendous amount of
SA> messages/files etc that we are getting. There just aren't
SA> enough hours in the day to go through all this stuff!
Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to sort through
also.
--jah
... Hard Work has a Future Payoff. Laziness Pays off Now.
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.01
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2324
To: ALL Date: 01/23/94 8:38a
Subj: Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello
I have a couple of questions. I am running Remote Access and Frontdoor here
with Planet Connect. How do I get the Rosenet and pcusnet and all of the other
stuff tossed. I dont have a problem with Fido. I am using Fmail for a Toss. I
know I need some other utilities to handle these other areas but I dont know
what..
Thanks for any help.. Gill Blue
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp,Al (205)565.3394 1:18/16 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2325
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/24/93 2:35p
Subj: NewsGroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I appologize for that Martin. I saw that happening. You had called du
-> upcoming event and didn't have time for the DL. I am very sorry. I am
-> that file to your system right now. Let me open a window and do that.
-> Let me know if you received it ok. Look in your inbound.
Thank you. Received in good order. Appreciate you sending it.
I run D'Bridge. With my events, the caller still is allowed to finish
the call and then the event runs after the call is completed. Guess I'm
just used to being able to do things that way.....grin...
Again, thanks for sending the file.
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2326
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/26/93 10:38p
Subj: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Now I am off to take a well deserved day off!
Gonna have to call and talk to your boss if you are being given a WHOLE
day off. That just ain't right. You are only allowed 3 minutes a day
of free time and I've alrady used up at least 2 years worth. Get back
to the GRIN-STONE you slackert!!!
-- GGRRIINN --
Hope you had (or have) a pleasant day off and come back all refreshed
and charged up for the tasks ahead.
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2327
To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/26/93 10:53p
Subj: Dupes ??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Ok, first, I am NOT talking about my OWN messages coming back. Is
-> just my system, or is there a SERIOUS dupe loop happening. I just rea
-> through about 120 messages, of which 60 were original and the others
-> dupes.
Getting the same here. But at least it gives me a chance to read the
message again, just in case it really was important..... grin......
Me thinks someone has something set wrong and has forgotten to severe
the LandLine link.
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2328
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 12:03a
Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Yes once I had it set right. Now I am getting routed netmail to un
-> nodes and you name it. So I guess it is up to everyone to get thier s
-> straight now eh?
That sounds about right. Seems that some systems think that they can
route netmail bound for other nets through fidonet nodes and it will
work.........If it ain't in the fidonet nodelist, it ain't gonna get
routed correctly.....
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2329
To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 12/28/93 11:03p
Subj: this echo? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Just wondering if this echo is active?
No, just a few messages an hour.......grin.
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2330
To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 12:55p
Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? T
-> showed up on the bird over this last weekend.
->
-> 2-BBS
-> 2-PIC
-> 2-WINDOW
->
-> They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area
-> they are not on the Filebone.Na list.
Try reading the file called FILEBONE.NA and you will have your answer.
The SDN areas are undergoing a major change in structure and are all
getting new names.
If you can't find a copy of FILEBONE.NA anywhere else, freq it from me
at 1:232/10 most anytime.
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2331
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 9:22p
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> > What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone
-> > elces HD with them.<G>
->
-> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the s
-> mistake on my part.
No, not a mistake. Just a fumbling, bumbling, and tumbling rumbling to
help some stumbling sysops that might not have had all of the Apogee and
Epic collection.
Since I already had all of these, I just deleted them, but now every
system connected to you has had the opportunity to have the
creme-de-la-creme of the games available. Nice touch.......... but
then, what else could one expect from such a gamey outfit....
All of this is just my opinion and doesn't necessarly reflect my opinion
(grin).....
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2332
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 9:24p
Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> > JJ>Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few
-> > others....
->
-> > Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot!
->
-> My motherboard was made by Clinton Electronics!
So that's why it steps out on you sometimes and has an Amiga on the
side...
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON KULHA Number: 2333
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 01/22/94 9:44a
Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DK> you think the draconian folks who arrested Tony
DK> Davis would do if they
DK> found out PC was spraying them with ALT.SEX from a
DK> sat? What if some of
DK> the content is deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of
DK> banned material can be a very serious charge.
RA> The areas have been transmitted by the government computers for years..
RA> Across state and international lines..
No doubt....but if you were a prosecuter in OK who would you rather go
after....the federal government or a small private business? I hope the folks
at PC remain cautious; they're providing a wonderful service and I'd hate to
see some neandrathal agency shut them down.
Anyhow, thanks for your thoughts. Before the moderator whacks me and tells
me to take this to POLITICS I'm going to drop this thread. Ciao.....
DCK
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN COOK Number: 2334
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/23/94 1:56a
Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BW> Trouble is, SEAL apparently won't recognize
BW> same-zone AKAs (aka 3615/51), and it's author
BW> responds to neither netmail, nor unsolicited cash.
The author does respond to messages in the FidoNet TUB echo.
- Dan
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2335
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/23/94 8:01p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/18/94> Joe Hayes wrote:
JH> BG> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one
JH> BG> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones
Boyd, any chance of sending PCUSENET.TXT down again. I cant believe it
but I lost the bloody thing! I see we are getting more and more USENET
groups coming down, keep up the good work.
* WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
--- WM v2.04/92-0555
* Origin: Naperville File Exchange BBS 317-447-9653 (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2336
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/23/94 10:52p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> So they're actually going to specifically not receive areas? The way
-> feeds are setup, is that when you request "Alt", you get everything u
-> unless you specifically remove it. So, if they don't want to carry t
-> newsgroups, they'd specifically be removing them.
->
Bear in mind that I am just repeating what was told me in a phone
conversation, and it may be true/false/ and or subject to change. I
have seen that the alt.sex newsgroup is on now, but haven't seen any
traffic in the others (only been getting newsgroups here for a couple of
days), although some are listed in the pcusenet.txt file, which, as I
understand it, is supposed to be a list of the groups now in the sat
feed.
-> JSJ> They are still working on a pricing structure for folks
-> JSJ> who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff.
->
-> So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as well?
Again, I got the impression when I talked to them that the details
hadn't been worked out but that usenet would probably be priced
separately from everything else, but no decision (at that time) as far
as pricing for customers that want it all. Hopefully Boyd or someone
actually there may have an update for us.
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 2337
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 01/23/94 6:33p
Subj: SATELLITE DISH/PLANNET CONNECT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell you
>RW> everything you want to know.
>
> This is fine for a report or research, but I have noticed that a few
> details in the article have changed or were left out. Our local Fido
Yes there were/have been some changes since that was written in mid December.
They are now selling video equipment if you want TV also was really the biggest
change. When researching, I called on this item for verification in writing the
article and I got the confused guy that always says 'sir' at the end of every
sentence. Polite enough but I've learned to ask for Boyd or Jerry since then if
he answers. PC's biggest issue with the article was that they all had to go out
and buy new crayons for the installation doc's. <chuckle>
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: The Outdoor Sportsman's BBS (1:288/6)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2338
To: JOHN MORANO Date: 01/23/94 4:23p
Subj: Re: PCUTILS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>DP> What Feb 1 date problem are you talking about?
>
>Dave, due to a bug in the code of PCUtil, the control number:
>0000FFFF.TU0 34376 FRIDAY 11-01-93
>in the CHECK.IDX file will fall back 30 days instead on incrementing by 1
>day as it should, everything in the index will be wiped out on the first
>run after midnite on the 1st, so there will be no index to do a dup
>verification by and all files will be transferred to your holding directory
>wether thay have been received or not. I will have PCFU in distribution
>before that time so you can make a conversion over to it in a controlled
>situation and not dump a full day of dup messages into the echo pool......
>John......
John,
Thanks for the info, appreciate it.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2339
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 01/23/94 4:25p
Subj: Re: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell you
> RW> everything you want to know.
>This is fine for a report or research, but I have noticed that a few
>details in the article have changed or were left out. Our local Fido group
>has already installed a PC dish, but I have also been looking at Plannet
>Connect and several other services for Internet connectivity for two
>separate projects.
>Getting detailed questions answered has been difficult, the response has
>been little more than "buy a dish and you'll figure it out"......
>David
David,
If you have any questions go ahead and ask.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2340
To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/23/94 9:55p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mauro,
If it will keep those pesky WWIVnet messages out of Fido (because of
non-compliant headers etc) I'm all for it.
Gary
---
* RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2341
To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/23/94 5:23a
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
According to Todd Lyons (1:3807/104) on Fri, Jan 21 at 21:29:
>> Know of any utility or door that employs that data to make
>> n-line searching and area requesting a bit less daunting?
TL>This is not an attack, it is a statement of facts. If you run a good
TL>bbs, you can carry all the areas that come in, and you will have some
TL>sort of built in "area selection" that the user can use to pick the
TL>areas (s)he wants to read and ignore all the rest. RA calls it
TL>"Combined Reading" I dunno what the others call it.
We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or diskspace to justify the
whole load. A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a burden in the
absence of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out
there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely possible. You know
of one?
I assume there are a lot of smaller, well run systems like ours out there
scratching by on a shoestring and a prayer, folks who would love nothing better
than to give their users the same easy access they enjoy. Whether they're a
dish downlink or not.
Is big better? Probably. But it's not always a choice.
--- msgedsq 2.1
* Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2342
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 01/23/94 5:40a
Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
According to Guy VanDell (1:116/80) on Thu, Jan 20 at 22:14:
BW>> Anyone else here ever get SEAL to work properly?
GV>yep I run it over here no problems, check out the TUB echo, Robert is in
GV>there every single day.
Thanks, I will.
GV>seal is a great! prg.
GV>Although I haven't had time to put the new version in yet.
I figured it was, it's clearly put together with care but it's always
reassuring to hear it confirmed when some bonehead move you make happens to
break it.
--- msgedsq 2.1
* Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2343
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/23/94 7:05p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Joe Hayes wrote:
JH> Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd?
JH> I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will.
Any of the specified areas that you have in your config file can be redirected
to the NUL device rather than to any area on your disk drive. See previous
posts in PCSITES or drop me a note there and I'll give you the lines you need
in the pc config to drop usenet (I'd do it now but I'm not logged into the PC
Connect machine at the moment so can't grep the info).
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2344
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/23/94 7:09p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
James McOrmond wrote:
JM> So they're actually going to specifically not receive areas?
JM> The way UseNet feeds are setup, is that when you request
JM> "Alt", you get everything under Alt, unless you specifically
JM> remove it. So, if they don't want to carry the Alt.Sex
JM> newsgroups, they'd specifically be removing them.
Actually your news config file for your site can specify any portion of a
usenet newsgroup heirarchy as NOT receive or receive. You could have alt.bbs
and alt.sex (and all derivatives of those heirarchies) and no other alt
newsgroups or you can get alt and then specify NOT alt.sex if you wish.
JM> So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as
JM> well?
Sounds like there will be a combined fido/usenet rate in the area of 50-55 US
last I heard but that is unsubstatiated rumour on my part and is subject to all
the normal disclaimers. Personally, I get almost a full feed at present but if
the price is reasonable I'll drag both in via the bird.
JM> What kind of a setup are we looking at here?
For usenet you need either a unix style reader like tin for OS/2 or a BBS like
Waffle to get full compatibility. Using Fredgate (I can vouch for this one) or
GIGO (sounds like it's a good program but I've not tried it) you can utilize
your own FTN mailer as these packages just convert the newsgroup to fidoecho
and back as needed. That means you get Packets that are tossed to new echos
that correspond to your news. There are probably quite a few packages out there
for Amiga as well but I run IBM so I can't help there.
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2345
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 1:23a
Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> First off who is Dan?
Dan is the same gentleman that we've spoken with on several occasions now,
Boyd, and the same gentleman who took our credit card information over the
phone, updated our registration code and advised us of the weather related
problems last weekend when we called to see if that was what had occurred when
the satellite feed was down for a bit.
I have slight hearing loss in the low range so it's possible that I
misunderstood his name if he has a low voice, but Remus understood his name to
be Dan also.
> This could happen. If you see a 6144 error then it is a dat time
> violation. If the clock goes back in time wit will come up with this.
Okay, thanks for the info, we were concerned about his question and how or
what he meant by it, Boyd.
> Which I told your hubby. For the first time renewal it is retroactive
> from the date you specified in the contract where it asdks what date you
> started using Planet Connect. This has always been our policy.
Ahhh, okay, I understand that as well, Boyd. Btw, he's not my hubby yet
and you're still invited to the wedding if you can get away in time.
> This should not of happened. Our policy is that we ONLY reset the lock
> for 90 days even if you have payed a full year in advanced.
This part I really don't fully understand. If the check or charge card has
cleared and the money is in the Planet Connect bank account, why would the lock
only be reset for 90 days? I'm sure you have your reasons for it, but I am
curious.
> Depends. If you read the contract it stated that it your subscription
> would start on the day you put in for starting to use Planet Connect. I also
> explained to your hubby why we have the 90 days limit. If you got reset for
> the full year what are you complaining about?
We did read the contract, Boyd, although admittedly we did not consult with
our attorney to see if it was kosher by him.
What I'm complaining about is the way things were handled and asking you,
basically, could it not have been handled more easily by your office had the
staff been more knowledgeable regarding your services and/or policies.
> Thats why the 90 day limit. If you did not pay then we just dont reset
> you till you did.
Understandable, but that means that 1) the subscriber may not be aware of
the problem and can't take the necessary steps to make things right and 2)
Planet Connect doesn't get their money in as timely a manner as it might. I
think we both agree that Planet Connect isn't a non-profit organization and
therefore relies upon the income provided by it's subscribers. Wouldn't it be
better to give some type of notification in advance and allow the subscriber to
rectify the problem rather than simply cut him/her off? Just a thought.
> Well takes time to train people. Did you learn everything about how our
> program works and what is involved in getting data over the sat overnight?
Not at all, Boyd, but when people call for support, they expect to be able
to speak with someone who at least conveys a basic knowledge of their services
or is willing to find out. At this time, that seems to be only you, Boyd, and
since you're often busy or otherwise unavailable that often leaves questions
unanswered until such time as you may be reached.
True, it takes time to learn something new, but unless we speak directly
with you it seems that we are unable to receive information or answers. Again,
this doesn't speak well for the company you work for. I believe that at this
time, Planet Connect is the only game in town, but this may not always be the
case and the business that is turned away by poor support or services may not
be back later.
> Show me a company that is just starting and hiring new people that are as
> organized as you want it to be. Everything takes time. Heck a year ago I had
> no idea about how this all works. But At least I am trying to figure it all
> out.
And you've done an admirable job of learning it all, Boyd. The problem is
that you appear to the be the only one doing so. You are the one who seems
primarily involved with answering questions and providing support via this echo
and probably others on other networks. Are we incorrect in desiring the same
level of support or knowledge from other support personnel when we make a voice
call to your offices?
> lucky. If I would have been there when Jim reset your lock there would have
> been no way that he would have did it for a year. Policy is policy and come
> hell or high water I will stay with my decisions.
Ahhh, so Dan=Jim! I seem to recall your having told me that once before,
Boyd. That does clear up some confusion on our part trying to figure out who we
spoke to if it wasn't someone named Dan.
At any rate, I am aware that you don't own the company, Boyd, but I do
admit confusion when you speak of "my decisions." Are you the person who makes
policy for the company?
Also, I don't recall asking you to go against your policy although I have
questioned the purpose of some of them.
> I will not lie. It will get better but from your comments, not fast
> enough for you.
Actually, I believe you're putting words in my mouth here, Boyd. My
question was whether or not it would improve. I imposed no timetable on
improvement, but did want some assurance that it would do so.
I am known to be rather vocal at times, Boyd, but I made an effort in my
message, to which yours was a reply, to not be strident. Perhaps I missed the
mark and if that was the case I do apologize, but I feel that my question(s)
are valid and deserving of a response.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- Sqed/32 0.87/unreg
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS (318) 865-4503 (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2346
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 1:22a
Subj: What the Hell@!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
No can do. We do not process any of the other networks. Unless each
network that is sending to us has a dish and does the gating, it will never
happen on our end.
Makes sense. Just thought I'd ask. Thanks for the response.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- Sqed/32 0.87/unreg
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS (318) 865-4503 (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2347
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 1:26a
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the majority like what I did.
So, majority rules. Not a problem, just a comment.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- Sqed/32 0.87/unreg
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS (318) 865-4503 (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: STEVE NEWMAN Number: 2348
To: EMMETT PERDUE Date: 01/23/94 1:49p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Emmett!
Just a test to see if we've got this all correct. For others in this
echo I'd like to say...Hey, sorry for the test but how do you think
the Wright Brothers did it? <G> Thanks!
Steve
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House West * Warren, Or. * 205-222-0772 *
(1:18/31)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUDY HEHN Number: 2349
To: RICK ROSINSKI Date: 01/23/94 10:00p
Subj: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like
-> the Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought
-> I'd let you know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I
-> hope you continue to add extra files like this.
I appreciated them too but I lost all the stuff on that drive when I
installed Stacker. It's too bad Boyd couldn't send them again. <g>
--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e'
* Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:2401/114)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MAURO INCROCCI Number: 2350
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/23/94 8:10a
Subj: New net addition Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boyd, I'm new to this echo. I was wondering what the procedure would be to
have a new net placed (request to be placed) in the system? There is a new net
forming, Stormnet (not weather related) and they are expanding into Canada now.
Thanks for any help.
Mauro
=-=-=
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: (null) (1:353/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2351
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/21/94 5:22p
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Wallace Sheldon babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
JF> I'm missing something; are you running gateway.exe
JF> without dos4gw? (gateway.exe explicitly looks for and
JF> loads dos4gw in the stub).
WS> My point is that I DON'T run gateway, and a .BAT file can be
WS> used to kick OS/2 into a DOS session when the offending DOS
WS> *.exe won't.
My appologies; I wrote two different things using the same extender. Same
rules apply to PSORT (it looks for DOS4GW first).
WS> Very happy to hear about PSRT coming with the ability read
WS> the AREAS.BBS where it's located. Keep up the good work.
No prob
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12c
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2352
To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 11:24p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Marty!
In a message to All <01/22/94> Marty Duplissey wrote:
MD> Hello all!
MD> This is a test. Please respond
I hear you!!!!!! PING PING PING
* WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2353
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 11:31p
Subj: USENET FEED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
I looked at the dates on the last Newsgroups sent and it was 1/22/94. I
was wondering when the feed will become steady so I can drop some of my
land line Newsgroups. Cant wait to see the phone bill drop.
Art
NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
* WCE 1.5/2087 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 2354
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/24/94 5:45p
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or diskspace to
> justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a
> burden in the absence of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there
> really is one out there already and I haven't found it yet, which is
> entirely possible. You know of one?
Gecho 1.02+ works great! I have waited for this one on pins and needles as I
wanted t add more PC areas to my BBS.
You can pick it up from your reg site..
TTYL
Laz
---
* Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2355
To: WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Date: 01/24/94 8:48p
Subj: UseNet Newsgroups, BitNet Mailing Lists, Etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am a member of Net 1:103 in Southern CA. We recently purchased a Planet
Connect system and have found its service for FIDO echomail and files to be as
close to perfect as could be desired once the configuration problems on our end
were cleared up.
What I am trying to find out, is what Internet features (UseNet newsgroups,
BitNet mailing lists, gated E-Mail to connected networks, etc) are now, or will
be, supported. And what the costs are now, or are expected to be.
Any definitive information will be greatly appreciated!
__
\/ dj
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2356
To: WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Date: 01/24/94 8:52p
Subj: Adding Networks To Planet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Me again. I'm putting these in seperate messages to help keep the threads
straight....
I am a member of a couple of smaller networks. What would "proper" procedure be
to go about possibly adding an addition network to the PC feed? What security
measures could be provided to limit distribution of the echos? What can be done
to prevent a system connected directly to PC from posting into an echo that
they have been banned from by the moderator?
Any definitive information is apreciated!
__
\/ dj
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2357
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/24/94 2:16p
Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GV> Then remember to run MAKECFG.EXE to create a new CONFIG.SKY
GV> Regards,
GV> George Vandervort
Thanks George, I "stumbled" on it after trying a few different ways..
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2358
To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 01/24/94 2:17p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Any of the specified areas that you have in your config file can be
DW> redirected to the NUL device rather than to any area on your disk
DW> drive. See previous posts in PCSITES or drop me a note there and I'll
Thanks Dan, I have it going to NUL now..
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2359
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/24/94 10:55p
Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hmmm....I missed any reference to the genealogy echo being
>> chopped. Which echo was that....?
>
> I don't remember the exact tag, but it appeared to be a French
> genealogy echo if I recall. It was in the list Boyd posted showing
> the "undesirables" :-) and was tagged something like Genealogy.fr??
Hi Glenn,
I think you are referring to the FM-GENEALOGIE echo. It originates from
Montreal and is gated into WGA (I believe). However, I've had a local feed for
this one for over two years. It helps to be right on the border...
Regards
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2360
To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 11:17a
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello all!
->
-> This is a test. Please respond
->
it worked, Marty.....
cheers...
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ANONYMOUS Number: 2361
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/23/94 11:15p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 22 Jan 94 22:19:00, Dave Petrucci muttered something to Tom Haav
DP> Dupes are also another problem that many have been ignoring.
DP> Most of the current/newer echomail tossing program, ie..
DP> GEcho, FastEcho, Squish, can't keep track of any more than
DP> 64k to 128k of messages. With the total echomail traffic in
DP> Fido nowadays, it doesn't take long for that threshold to be
DP> reached. The old reliable ConfMail is capable of keeping track
Agreed this is a big problem. I was using FMail (whose dupe checking is
totally inadequate) as a registered user but the volume coming off the dish is
so high that I switched to FastEcho. It supports more than the 512 areas that
Fmail did and will dupe check up to the last 131000 (yes, that is one hundred
thirty one thousand) messages. This ought to be enough, even with the high
traffic of fido.
Eric
--- * Origin: The Tek Room Node 1 (304)292-4744 (1:277/1)
--- QM v1.26/b
* Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2362
To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 9:27p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Marty!
In a message to All <01/22/94> Marty Duplissey wrote:
MD> Hello all!
MD> This is a test. Please respond
MD> Marty
Your test got here in TN just fine.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * This is an egg... this is an egg on a 486DX-50 cpu...
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 2363
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/24/94 10:22p
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill,
> We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or
> diskspace to justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's
> 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence of a JAM
> tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out
> there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely
> possible. You know of one?
The JAM'able GEcho has been out for a short while now...
Works GREAT!
John
--- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN
* Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TODD LYONS Number: 2364
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/25/94 12:04a
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> burden in the absence of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there
> really is one out there already and I haven't found it yet, which is
> entirely possible. You know of one?
I'm experimenting with Xmail right now. I don't think it's going to work out.
I'm fixing to switch to Fastecho and see if that will work for me.
I'll keep you posted along with all the kludges that I have to use to get a
system like this running with a combo of Fmail (for the hub capabilities) and
Fastecho (for the JAM capability)
> I assume there are a lot of smaller, well run systems like ours out
> there scratching by on a shoestring and a prayer, folks who would love
> nothing better than to give their users the same easy access they enjoy.
> Whether they're a dish downlink or not.
For our area, we are a big bbs with 2 lines and a gig of files. For some, that
is NOTHING. It depends how easy you make your system to use :)
See ya todd
--- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM
* Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2365
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/24/94 11:39a
Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> John Lundell babbled profusely in a message to All:
is this normal in your replies?? Not realy tactfull but oh well... I can do
that too I guess! ;-)
Jason Fesler thought he knew it all in a message to ME:
-> As to _where_ to get this information: Start watching news.answers and
-> news.lists; they usually every couple of weeks get an updated list posted
-> there, along with the moderators of the newsgorups. news.lists will be the
-> easier place to find this information.
what you don't realize is that we are NOT currently getting everything from the
usenet - so unless someone has confidence that we will get exactly the same as
one of the above mentioned lists then we need a different one - one that
matches what PC is sending accross.. what good would it do to import a list as
you mentioned above (which I got right away I might add) and have 7500
conferences set up on a BBS with only 1500 being used? I personally don't want
that - so I solved the problem and used the list I got from the Internet and
the PCUSENET.TXT and compared the two and made my own... I'm not waiting around
for months until someone does it right...
I did hear that there were PCBoard BBS's just importing PCUSENET.TXT into
PCBuuCP or uuPCB - I hope they understand what a moderated newsgroup is and
what will happen later on by not having the proper settings for them....
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2366
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/25/94 5:08p
Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Monday January 24 1994 01:23, Patty Pickett wrote to Boyd Goodin:
PP>
>> First off who is Dan?
PP>
PP> Dan is the same gentleman that we've spoken with on several occasions
PP> now, Boyd, and the same gentleman who took our credit card information
PP> over the phone, updated our registration code and advised us of the
PP> weather related problems last weekend when we called to see if that was
PP> what had occurred when the satellite feed was down for a bit. I have
PP> slight hearing loss in the low range so it's possible that I misunderstood
PP> his name if he has a low voice, but Remus understood his name to be Dan
PP> also.
Hi Patty!
Hmmm..
hey maybe "Dan" was the Cleaning Lady <ahh Err Custodial Person> ? <Grin>
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Planet-Connetion mean never having to say "Where's my Mail (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DEWAYNE COX Number: 2367
To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 2:24p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello all!
> This is a test. Please respond
This is a test responce.
Dewayne
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: (1:2320/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUDY HEHN Number: 2368
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 9:59p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one
-> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones
-> we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the
-> days go by.The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory.
Boyd, instead of updating the list, can we have a separate 'diff' list
too, with just the new additions, something like Fido's nodediff?
PCBUUCP creates the areas on my board by reading in a list I specify. I
already fed it pcusenet.txt so if you just add the new ones to the list,
it's going to be very time-consuming to go in and pick out the new ones
and just feed it those. If you can create a separate list for those of
using automatic conference generators, you'd make us very happy.
-> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to
-> check and see what kind of administative nightmare this will be.
If it's going to be factored into the cost of the usenet feed, I'd say
"Don't do it". Many of us already have our own uucp feeds and don't want
to pay somebody else's way. We just want the newsgroups at the cheapest
possible price.
--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e'
* Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:2401/114)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2369
To: ALL! Date: 01/26/94 1:05a
Subj: Usenet returns. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Who ever is returning usenet feeds via fido to here better stop it.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TYE HAMMERLE Number: 2370
To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/24/94 4:51p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jeff!
18 Jan 94 09:29, Jeff Olesen wrote to Wallace Sheldon:
JO> Nope. YOU have a problem. The rest of us (as Boyd stated) are
JO> satisfied with things the way they are. Big clumps of files
JO> without .TIC's are a problem. But I'd rather have them than not,
JO> and it's unfair to expect Boyd to sit down and describe these
Speak for yourself. If they're gonna do something they oughta do it right, not
half-assed. Make a little *.TIC to go with the file. If it's not good enough a
file to do that then maybe it doesn't warrant the effort of sending it. What's
gonna happen when everybody at PC sends his favorite bunch of files down the
pike? We're gonna be swamped.
Tye
--- FMail 0.96g+
* Origin: Leak Path BBS, San Diego CA (619)584-0703/1713 (1:202/1002)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2371
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 01/21/94 2:01p
Subj: Re: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of Tu 18-Jan-94 04:34, Rick Ashworth wrote:
RA> Richard Holler of the AD- file areas has restrictions to
RA> PCSITES only for any of those file areas. Since many systems
RA> run MO hubs, that means the AD- areas are never seen by
RA> anyone but the PCSITE owner. Real smart.
Ugh. No kidding. This guy was kidding right?!?! :-)
---
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2372
To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 11:28p
Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 01-22-94 18:52, Marty Duplissey munched on a Tribble and said to
all about test
MD> Hello all!
MD> This is a test. Please respond
Finally downloaded the mail and got around to reading it now. (Time in
header above.) Looks like you're getting out just fine.
-=<-Katherine->=-
... Nobody notices when things go right.
~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2373
To: ANONYMOUS Date: 01/26/94 1:34a
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>DP> Dupes are also another problem that many have been ignoring.
>DP> Most of the current/newer echomail tossing program, ie..
>DP> GEcho, FastEcho, Squish, can't keep track of any more than
>Agreed this is a big problem. I was using FMail (whose dupe checking is
>totally inadequate) as a registered user but the volume coming off the dish
>is so high that I switched to FastEcho. It supports more than the 512 areas
>that Fmail did and will dupe check up to the last 131000 (yes, that is one
>hundred thirty one thousand) messages. This ought to be enough, even with
>the high traffic of fido.
>Eric
Eric,
Your coming thru as "ANONYMOUS".
I too have switched over to FastEcho for the same reason...
But in the last 13 days I have processed over 213,000 messages..
So dupes can now start to sneak by if they're older than 13 days. Dave
P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PAUL MALLETT Number: 2374
To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/25/94 6:14p
Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to
JH> sort through also.
Well, I suppose it depends on your perspective. Personally, I'd be happy if
every file that came down the pipe was for OS/2. ;> The Fernwood OS/2 filenet
areas are one of the main reasons I got involved with Planet Connect in the
first place. As we're finding out in this area, everyone is interested in this
thing for different reasons. It makes for some excited and energetic sysops.
--- timEd/2-B11
* Origin: Radio Free Echomail! 401.941.7851 (1:323/123)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2375
To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/26/94 1:27a
Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Marty Duplissey to all ***
MD> Hello all!
MD>
MD> This is a test. Please respond
MD> Marty
MD>
MD> --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219
MD> * Origin: Marty's Mess OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 PVT
MD> (1:398/1)
Nope. Nothing coming through yet...keep trying.
Glenn
---
* Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2376
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/25/94 4:41a
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <23 Jan 94 22:52:01>, Jim St. John (1:231/285) writes:
JS>-> So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as well?
JS>
JS>Again, I got the impression when I talked to them that the details
JS>hadn't been worked out but that usenet would probably be priced
JS>separately from everything else, but no decision (at that time) as far
JS>as pricing for customers that want it all. Hopefully Boyd or someone
JS>actually there may have an update for us.
The flier I got from PC indicates that UseNet Newsgroups will be priced
separately. The schedule looks to be the same as the others, i.e., 30-40
dollars a month.
Hope I get my equipment soon so I can get some of those transmissions before
they start charging...
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2377
To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 01/25/94 4:41a
Subj: SATELLITE DISH/PLANNET CONNECT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <23 Jan 94 18:33:25>, Tracy Mickley (1:288/6) writes:
TM>Yes there were/have been some changes since that was written in mid
TM>December. They are now selling video equipment if you want TV also was
TM>really the biggest change. When researching, I called on this item for
TM>verification in writing the article and I got the confused guy that
TM>always says 'sir' at the end of every sentence. Polite enough but I've
TM>learned to ask for Boyd or Jerry since then if he answers. PC's biggest
TM>issue with the article was that they all had to go out and buy new
TM>crayons for the installation doc's. <chuckle>
My compliments on an excellent article, Tracy. It moved me to call and order a
system.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2378
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/22/94 12:43p
Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Glenn, I didn't mean to come across as not wanting them,
> it would only be nice to know what they are, particularly if
Good point :-) I'm not sure what the solution might be other than trying to
encourage everyone to use the Elist. Most of them are admin echos for file
distribution networks, but that would not be obvious to someone new at the
game.
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2379
To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/22/94 12:48p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> What I would *personally* like to see is every NEC run GMD, and
NOT. You say you get a lot of grunged messages and they cause your system to
"hiccup." Please explain. I have yet to have mail of any kind cause a problem
on my system. So you delete what can't make it into your message base and leave
the rest of us to worry about our own systems.
This trend of supposed mail movers to become mail deleters is disturbing in the
extreme. So quit encouraging them.
> When I first started running it, I was simply AMAZED at some of
> these messages (and how far out of spec they are). Now, I just
And before you ran it, those messages passed into your system just fine, didn't
they? Now are you deleting them?
> in the backround, and since I am only looking after my own feed,
Thank goodness for that!
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2380
To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 01/24/94 1:54p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> like Waffle to get full compatibility. Using Fredgate
DW> (I can vouch for this one) or GIGO (sounds like it's a
DW> good program but I've not tried it) you can utilize
DW> your own FTN mailer as these packages just convert the
I was looking at uugate for OS/2 but could not get it to toss the .bag type
files. I did try gigo and it is impressive. Too bad they don't have an OS/2
version. At least the DOS version works well under OS/2. If they ever get it
into OS/2 then I will certainly register it.
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Fido Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2381
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 9:31p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would just like to make a few comments about your service and setup - these
are just suggestions - and to the positive I hope - Please read...
I have been looking at the usenet news groups that you send across the bird. I
received the pcusenet.txt and the text (cannot recall the name on how much you
were going to charge for usenet connections). I proceeded to setup the usenet
groups on my PC - a quick rexx script and away they went - all 15000 or was
that 150000 messages - anyway to change them into something that I (my tosser)
could understand it took me a week of searching to find something that would
convert them to a format that could be tossed - GIGO wins the prize - it took
one half an hour for GIGO to change them to packet format - then away I went
tossing them - six hours later - vowala or however the French say it - anyway
by the time they were up on the board to read they were ancient history. So -
of course being a computer nerd for the past 30 years I called on the services
of pktsort - ran it in the squish subdirectory once I moved the .pkt's over -
this took half an hour then only 45 minutes to toss (now this is getting
reasonable I said to myself. Anyway....
MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled people at this
point in time and I assume you are hoping that we will cough up additional
funds each month for usenet messages - would it not be in your best interest to
do some of this front end processing yourself before the info goes on the BIG
BIRD. I think that if this was done then more people would consider paying for
these services - right now I pay 50 dollars a year for all the newsgroups that
I want, since I live close to a non - long distance calling site. Anyway just
my opinion on value added service.... Replies most welcome.-> Dave
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2382
To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/25/94 5:02p
Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I think you are referring to the FM-GENEALOGIE echo. It
That would be it Chris :-)
> originates from Montreal and is gated into WGA (I believe).
Is WGA on the bird? I seem to recall seeing a WGAMail file at some point. If it
is that would be a real bonus to a couple of my users who are serious
genealogical hobbiests.
.glenn.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2383
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/26/94 1:30a
Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jason,
21 Jan 94, 17:22, Jason Fesler wrote to Wallace Sheldon:
WS>> Very happy to hear about PSRT coming with the ability read
WS>> the AREAS.BBS where it's located. Keep up the good work.
JF> No prob
One more question? Is it necessary to write everything to one file? I could
understand if it was able to read in all packets and then sort but this doesn't
work for me. How about just sorting each packet?
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2384
To: DAN COOK Date: 01/24/94 7:52p
Subj: Re: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of Su 23-Jan-94 01:56, Dan Cook wrote:
DC> BW> Trouble is, SEAL apparently won't recognize
DC> BW> same-zone AKAs (aka 3615/51), and it's author
DC> BW> responds to neither netmail, nor unsolicited cash.
DC>
DC> The author does respond to messages in the FidoNet TUB echo.
I also forwarded that message to him in Netmail as its local to my system.
---
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2385
To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 01/24/94 10:48p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of Su 23-Jan-94 19:09, Dan Williamson wrote:
DW> a good program but I've not tried it) you can utilize your
DW> own FTN mailer as these packages just convert the newsgroup
DW> to fidoecho and back as needed. That means you get Packets
DW> that are tossed to new echos that correspond to your news.
I'm already running UseNet on my system and distribute to a number of other
systems in the area. I'm just wondering if its actually a regular Cnews
batched message bundle, or if its some funky format.
---
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2386
To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/25/94 8:38p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mauro Incrocci wrote in a message to Gary Hedberg:
> If it will keep those pesky WWIVnet messages out of
> Fido (because of
> non-compliant headers etc) I'm all for it.
MI> Do you know if GMD does detect these? Does anyone else? I
MI> will be running GMD soon so my Net will be clean. Later and
MI> thanks for the feedback.
GMD will detect basically whatever you tell it to. It is an incredible program.
I use it here. The thing you need to be aware of is that what we call garbage
on an IBM based system, may not be the case to another platform. Some of the
"High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can be read for
them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't care, if it's gonna choke my
tosser, I delete the message!
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2387
To: ALL Date: 01/26/94 12:40p
Subj: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I really don't know squat about the in's and out's of the PC technical stuff,
but out Net has purchased a system via our CRP. Our PC site has expressed a
bit of dismay in that the PC software changed to exit at the end of the
transmission "cycle" regardless whether all files are received and/or
error-free. I have written a small utility that checks the UPLD.LST against all
of his inbound directories and exits with an errorlev based on the findings.
Should anyone else find this handy, it is requestable here as UPCHK04B.ZIP -
12k.
An explanation from the docs:
UPCHECK ver .04ß
Checks a list of directories contained in UPCHECK.CFG for files listed
in a filelist. This is a very simple program. If you are capable of
running a Planet Connect system, you should have no problem figuring out
how to use UPCHECK.
This archive should contain the following files:
UPCHECK.EXE - The excutable file
UPCHECK.CFG - An Example configuration file
UP.BAT - An example batchfile
UPCHECK.DOC - This File
UPCHECK.CFG - ASCII Textfile
Must reside in the directory where UPCHECK.EXE was executed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keywords: @UPLIST - The FULL PATH and name of the list of FileNames. For
Planet connect this would be <drive>\<path>\UPLD.LST.
ONLY ONE UPLIST KEYWORD MAY BE USED!
i.e. @UPLIST D:\PC\UPLOAD.LST
@INPATH - The name of an inbound directory. Many directories
may be listed but each one must appear on a seperate
line and be proceeded by the @INPATH keyword.
@IGNORE - any acceptable DOS Filename (wildcards accepted).
UPCHECK will ignore this file when checking the
@UPLIST. i.e. if you do not care if QWK packets
are received, and all QWK packets are named *.Q??
then the config line "@IGNORE *.Q??" would cause
UPCHECK to continue whether the file existed or not.
All Keywords must begin in Column 1. White space between the keyword and the
parameter is ignored. Keywords and/or parameters are not case sensitive.
Trailing backslashes for directories will be appended if not listed. All
MISSING and IGNORED files are logged in UPCHECK.LOG for later inspection.
Upon completion, UPCHECK exits with the following ERRORLEVELS
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 - All files in @UPLIST found (or ignored)
1 - Error reading UPCHECK.CFG
2 - Error reading @UPLIST
3 - One or more files in @UPLIST were not located
4 - Error creating or writing to UPCHECK.LOG
5 - @UPLIST name in UPCHECK.CFG not found or bogus
Regards All,
Al Hays
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2388
To: ALL Date: 01/26/94 3:13p
Subj: Skymail Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--> Note:
Forwarded (from: PCSITES) by Greg Shaffer using timEd.
Original was from Greg Shaffer to All.
Hello All!
Those of you running Skymail to process the PC stuff will probably notice a
slight bug that showed up today.
If the UPLD.LST has blank lines in it then Skymail thinks some files were not
recieved. Todays UPLD.LST had 12 blank lines at the bottom and I got caught
with it. Simply edit the UPLD.LST with your favorite text editor and remove ALL
the blank lines and then re-run your batchfile.
I have have notified the author (Ed Ivey) and a fix will be forthcoming in a
day or two. I will send it to Boyd for hatching out thru PC.
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
___ timEd-B9
- Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2389
To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/26/94 9:53p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-* Do you know if GMD does detect these? Does anyone else? I will be
-* running GMD soon so my Net will be clean. Later and thanks for the
-* feedback.
Don't have the faintest idea....
Gary
---
* RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 2390
To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/26/94 11:24p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <24 Jan 94 21:31:32>, Dave Sloan (1:348/105) writes:
>MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled people at
>this point in time and I assume you are hoping that we will cough up
>additional funds each month for usenet messages - would it not be in your
>best interest to do some of this front end processing yourself before the
>info goes on the BIG BIRD.
That would effectively kill us and a number of others who are thinking of
signing up. We and others process Usenet using the standard c-news package
which takes the .bag files quite easily, as do the usenet->fido processors.
Every usenet->fido processor I've seen bastardizes the newsgroup names in one
way or another and screws with the headers.
It's a lot easier to convert usenet->fido than it is to convert the converted
stuff back to RFC-1036 format.
Good day JSW
--- msged 1.99S ZTC
* Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 2391
To: BOYD, & WHO KNOWS Date: 01/26/94 11:29p
Subj: Usenet cutover date ?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could you give us an approximate date (or a general range, such as days,
weeks, months) when the Usenet feed will be complete and consistent ??
We have to cut over the landline feeds, and I am hesitant to request new
groups when our people want them, only to have to make another change just
after.
Any idea of a time frame would be appreciated.
Thanks Good day JSW
--- msged 1.99S ZTC
* Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WOLF Number: 2392
To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/20/94 6:09p
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and
> ready to send mails back into PC... Let me know if
> anyone is gettting this message out!!
> Thank
> Richard
> --- QM v1.26/b
> * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50)
Yeah, but your using the wrong node address, in your orgin
line. From your PID, your true fido address is 275/81.
Bill
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2393
To: TED SORRELLS Date: 01/20/94 9:49a
Subj: all the hubbub.... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <19 Jan 94 20:47:45>, Ted Sorrells (1:130/67) writes:
TS>Where may I FREQ info regarding Planet_Connect and a layman's
TS>description of what it's all about. I'm interested in this high-tech
TS>new twist on BBS communication.
I found a file on the local BBSs here called PCINFO. You might scan your local
BBSs for that file.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2394
To: BOB ROSS Date: 01/21/94 12:54p
Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I'm quite sure I could do a dissertation on this subject Boyd. It's a
> "fact of life" when you provide services to a group of individuals of our
> food chain :-).
Since this is the first time that I have any contack with dealing in a
business I am learning fast!
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2395
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 01/21/94 12:58p
Subj: Re: Phone Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boyd, does PC have a 800 number or what is a voice number I can call to
> talk to a sales person.
> Thanks..
Sorry no 800 number.
> P.S. I sent you net mail requesting the info packet your sales people
> send out.
> last week. Acknowledgment would be nice. :{)
Well it is hard to handle things netmail. If you want an info pack you have
a better chance getting one if you call 615-623-8300.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2396
To: ALL Date: 01/21/94 4:35p
Subj: NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
=============================================================================
* Forwarded by George Vandervort's Gerbils (1:382/8)
* Area : NET382-SYSOP
* From : George Vandervort, 1:382/8 (Friday January 21 1994 16:28)
* To : All
* Subj : NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD
=============================================================================
Hello All!
for those who ran NODEDIFF.A21 and can't find me in the Nodelist..
NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE
This weeks NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD..
if you run this Nodediff.021 about 2/3rd of NET382 will be MISSING...
HUB 1000,2000,3000,6000,7000,9000,12000 and all of there Downlinks are missing
from the Nodelist.021
you must return to using NODELIST.014, untill this bug is ixed next week?
Regards,
George Vandervort - NEC Net382
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
-+- GoldED 2.42.G1219+
+ Origin: NET382 NEC Home of the 14.4k Gerbil-SAT... (FidoNet 1:382/8)
=============================================================================
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ROSINSKI Number: 2397
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/10/94 7:40p
Subj: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd,
I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like the
Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought I'd let you
know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I hope you continue to
add extra files like this.
Thanks,
Rick
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#0480)
* Origin: Wolverine (517) 695-9964 (1:239/1004)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2398
To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/21/94 7:51a
Subj: question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jim!
In a message to Bill Roper <01/19/94> Jim St. John wrote:
JS> Bill I'm still confused as to exactly what GECHO does. Does it sort
JS> the packets so that WIldmail can toss them faster?
Gecho is a mail toss like WildMail/GoMail but is not for Wildcat so it
has none of the Btrieve routines that slow down the Wildcat Tossers.
Tom
* WCE 1.5/2101 * Human Error - It's all ***YOUR*** Fault.
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013]
* Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 2399
To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/21/94 6:22p
Subj: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SA> Boy its about time! I thought you would never do it, been
> SA> reading your posts in the TVRO echo for a long time now. Glad
> SA> you are here, I'm an 'old timer' here, been hooked up for a
> SA> couple months now.
> :-) This is really GREAT! Heck, I've been hooking up
> digital data
> systems for quite a few years now for EDS, GM, HUGHES, etc.,
> and I never
> realized the need for us SysOps until I got my own PC system!
Yep, the only problem so far is the tremendous amount of messages/files etc
that we are getting. There just aren't enough hours in the day to go through
all this stuff!
--- GEcho 1.02+/RA2.01+
* Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST DS Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOSEPH NOVAK Number: 2400
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/21/94 3:38p
Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Frank Scheel:
> Does that mean that we can reasonably expect to see it work in an OS2
> environment? If so, has the company given you any idea of when this might
> happen?
> Later,
> <_Frank_>
BG>
BG> depends on how willing IBM is towards working with Aztec
BG> on a solution.
BG> ...Boyd
Are you saying that Aztec did finally contacted IBM and is trying to work
on the solution?
Anybody interested can call the OS/2 help line and ask for the specialist from
the printer group. You will get breakdown on which company is trying to solve
the problem with the parallel port software locks, and which ones do work.
When I called, AZTEC was not one of them.
Boyd, I know bussiness is good. But it's about time to do something
about this- I have better use for an extra computer. Why don't you switch
to another company?
And sorry, Desqview just doesn't cut it for me.
Joseph Novak
* Origin: Future Domain, Forestburgh, NY (1:272/77)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2401
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/23/94 4:40p
Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Tuesday January 18 1994 17:02, Joe Hayes wrote to Boyd Goodin:
BG>> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one
BG>> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones
BG>> we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the
BG>> days go by.The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory.
BG>> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to
BG>> check andsee what kind of administative nightmare this will be.
JH>
JH>
BG>> ...Boyd
JH>
JH> Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd?
JH> I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will.
JH>
JH> -Joe
JH> * SPITFIRE v3.4
JH> -+- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
JH> + Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629
JH> (1:2290/70)
Hello Joe!
Here a tip that should work...
in your ACONFIG.SKY
line 11 NEWSGRP Change the Destination to NUL
# net grp usr major minor topic type destination limit
:rulebase, *, 1, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO/, *
:rulebase, *, 2, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/, *
:rulebase, *, 3, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/UPDATES/, *
:rulebase, *, 4, _SKYID, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\PERSONAL/, *
:rulebase, *, 5, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\PLANETC\FIDO/, *
:rulebase, *, 6, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER/, *
:rulebase, *, 7, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\TV/, *
:rulebase, *, 8, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\CRS/, *
:rulebase, *, 9, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\RIME/, *
:rulebase, *, 10, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\ROSENET/, *
:rulebase, *, 11, *, *, *, *, disk, NUL/, *
Then remember to run MAKECFG.EXE to create a new CONFIG.SKY
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2402
To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 01/23/94 7:01a
Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Craig Clark wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar:
CC> the pinouts are in the back. You can't use a standard
Thanks Ken, will pull out the manual and check.
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MAURO INCROCCI Number: 2403
To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 01/24/94 12:55p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> If it will keep those pesky WWIVnet messages out of
> Fido (because of
> non-compliant headers etc) I'm all for it.
Do you know if GMD does detect these? Does anyone else? I will be running GMD
soon so my Net will be clean. Later and thanks for the feedback.
Mauro
=-=-=
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: (null) (1:353/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MAURO INCROCCI Number: 2404
To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/24/94 12:53p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I don't know how others feel about this issue, but
> these grunged messages were
> causing my mail tosser to hiccup, and generate NEW
> (grunged) outgoing
> messages.
What tosser are you using? I'm glad to hear that GM's are a problem for
systems. Makes my decision to run GMD that much easier. Before you, it was a
mythical problem with no victims.
> What I would *personally* like to see is every NEC run
> GMD, and send these
> complaint messages BACK to the nodes under it, but NOT
> send complaint messages
> elsewhere to the net.
I will be running GMD once I notify all the systems that it may affect. Thanks
for your feedback.
Mauro
=-=-=
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: (null) (1:353/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2405
To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/24/94 4:57p
Subj: Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sunday January 23 1994 08:38, Gill Blue wrote to All:
GB> Hello
GB> I have a couple of questions. I am running Remote Access and Frontdoor
GB> here with Planet Connect. How do I get the Rosenet and pcusnet and all of
GB> the other stuff tossed. I dont have a problem with Fido. I am using Fmail
GB> for a Toss. I know I need some other utilities to handle these other areas
GB> but I dont know what.. Thanks for any help.. Gill Blue
GB> -+- FMail 0.94
GB> + Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp,Al (205)565.3394 1:18/16
GB> (1:18/16)
Hello Gill!
Not shure about RoseNET, but PCUSENET, will probably need a UUCP<-> FIDO Mail
rocessor like FREDGATE, WAFFLE or GIGO..
I have FRED19q.ZIP (FredGate Beta 1.9Q) and GIGO0114.ZIP (v0.114) available for
freq or Download..
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 2406
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 01/24/94 8:02a
Subj: Administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> just give all of the echos to your users and let them download
-> fidonet.na, and figure out what they want.
For the first week or so I was trying to move the filebone stuff into my
already configured directories and it was going to become a real pain.
I did just what you suggest. I set up a file area for each network that
I'm posting (an SDN area, Crafting area, etc.) Then the filebone.na is
copied to a bulletin and also available for downloading. The TIC
processor I'm using adds a line to the description with the specific
area name. The callers seem satisfied with this setup and the posting
is 99.9% automated without having a real complicated setup..
Mike
--- QScan v1.05b
* Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe, IN * 219 453-4046 v32t/HST (1:236/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2407
To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 01/26/94 4:53p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Monday January 24 1994 16:51, Tye Hammerle wrote to Jeff Olesen:
TH> Hello Jeff!
TH>
TH> 18 Jan 94 09:29, Jeff Olesen wrote to Wallace Sheldon:
TH>
JO>> Nope. YOU have a problem. The rest of us (as Boyd stated) are
JO>> satisfied with things the way they are. Big clumps of files
JO>> without .TIC's are a problem. But I'd rather have them than not,
JO>> and it's unfair to expect Boyd to sit down and describe these
TH>
TH> Speak for yourself. If they're gonna do something they oughta do it
TH> right, not half-assed. Make a little *.TIC to go with the file. If it's
TH> not good enough a file to do that then maybe it doesn't warrant the effort
TH> of sending it. What's gonna happen when everybody at PC sends his
TH> favorite bunch of files down the pike? We're gonna be swamped. Tye -+-
TH> FMail 0.96g+ + Origin: Leak Path BBS, San Diego CA (619)584-0703/1713
TH> (1:202/1002)
Hello Tye!
I have a niffty utility called DIZ2BBS.ZIP that works great with most of the
files that came in without *.TIC
But If your using NodeDiff.021 then you wil have to wait till NodeDiff.028
to Poll me as Most of my Net got removed from the *.021 Nodelist by mistake,
or you can Poll the Author at 1:3625/441
D I Z 2 B B S
written by:
Terry Blount
File request
Diz2bbs.zip
from 1:3625/441
Purpose:
Diz2bbs.exe was written to extract File_id.diz text from
.Zip Archives and build a Files.bbs listing for a bbs. This
is useful when descriptions are missing or .TIC files are
lost or unavailable.
Usage:
Execute Diz2bbs.exe from the directory with the .zip
files you don't have descriptions for. The work will be
saved to a file named File.bbs to prevent overwriting any
pre-existing FileS.bbs. The file size and date will be
included.
Limitations:
If there is no File_id.diz in the archive the file name
will be listed in the File.bbs text but the description
field will be left blank. The format for the File.bbs is a
single, 256 character, limitation. This means that the
entire File_id.diz text will not be included... so the
author is limited to describe his program in 250 characters.
The description is truncated between words rather than
simply cutting it in the middle of a word. Diz2bbs cannot
identify bbs ads that have been inserted/ included with the
File_id text... I suggest we kill anyone doing this. <g>
At this time Arj (and SDN) compression is not supported
because I can't figure out how to get the name of the
archive the the File_id.diz came out of to be included in
the ascii text file the descriptions are built from. The
file name is echoed to the screen with the following
command:
Arj s -y * *.diz
HOWEVER the command " Arj s -y * *.diz >> work " does
not save the name of the file to "Work" I had always
thought that anything shown on the screen could be directed
to a file name with ">" or ">>" Since the file name is
not saved (in the work file) there is no way to figure out
which archive the description belongs to. If you know of how
to resolve this problem let me know.
Registration:
No donations/fees/begging is requested for the non-
commercial use of this utility as long as you understand I
am not responsible. If you intend to use this program for
commercial gain please notify me first and consider some
form of compensation.
Enjoy!
Terry Blount
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2408
To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/26/94 9:02p
Subj: TEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Illegal logon test.
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp,Al (205)565.3394 1:18/16 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 2409
To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 01/26/94 9:47p
Subj: Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
Well, got the dish up and running.. and the software also..
I have alot of ?'s for you
1. Is there a way to change the amount of errors a file can receive
before the software trashcans it.
2. Is there a list of Usenet groups you can send out
3. When are the lastest files and mail sent out
4. When a file receives just one error.. why does it trashcan it
When I think of more... you will here them :-)
<<sig.imp
* WCE 1.5/2119 * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
--- WM v3.10/92-0329
* Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUONG Number: 2410
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/26/94 6:13p
Subj: Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of (24 Jan 94 16:57:57), George Vandervort wrote to Gill Blue:
GV> I have FRED19q.ZIP (FredGate Beta 1.9Q) and GIGO0114.ZIP (v0.114)
GV> available for freq or Download..
What is GIGO? Does it do things like what FredMail does? If it does, you can
put WaterGate in the same category...
John
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUONG Number: 2411
To: LEE BONNIFIELD Date: 01/26/94 6:16p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Planet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of (26 Jan 94 06:30:30), Lee Bonnifield wrote to John Luong:
LB> Gee I guess you still have not seen a simple answer here. Planet
LB> Connect broadcasts a 19,200 bit per second datastream from two
LB> satellites. In the C-band (like the typical big backyard dishes
LB> that receive lots of satellite TV channels) Planet Connect uses the
LB> satellite Galaxy 3, which is at 93.5 degrees West Longitude. In the
LB> Ku-band (using smaller dishes, typically 3 foot diameter) Planet
LB> Connect is transmitted on satellite Galaxy 4, at 99 degrees.
Yeah, I got a text file (SAT-1.FAQ) ... helped me figure out what OTHER
satellites they use. (for instance, I got info. about SBS-6).
LB> The same company also transmits a 9600 bit per second datastream
LB> called Skylink, designed for people who like to CALL computer
LB> bulletin boards. (Planet Connect is designed for people who like to
LB> OPERATE BBSs.) Skylink is on two C-band satellites - Galaxy 3, and Galaxy
LB> 1 (at 133 degrees.)
Thank you for the information. It is will probably be a big part of my paper
explaining the satellites themselves. Do you happen to know what kind of
satellites they are (series, weight, # of transponders)...? I hear SBS-6 is a
HS-393 and Galaxy VI is a HS-396.
John
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TODD LYONS Number: 2412
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/27/94 8:18a
Subj: Test messages. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd, can you assign the responsibility of ONE person to reply to test
messages. There are usually 5 different people that respond to any
individual test message. Tell them not to reply to test messages. I enjoy
reading messages but not when every fifth one is a test or reply to a test.
See ya Todd
--- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM
* Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM WARD Number: 2413
To: BOYD Date: 01/27/94 7:57a
Subj: Line Feeds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
The last couple of days the UPLD.LST has contained extra line feeds about
12 to 13 of them they are being picked up by SKYMAIL as missing files thusly
not allowing it to drop with proper error level to move files, I have been
going in with a word processor and removing them is there a fix for this??
Jim Ward
--- GoldED 2.41
* Origin: FOG Maximus 103/0 (1:103/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2414
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/25/94 9:07a
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill Whitehouse babbled profusely in a message to Todd Lyons:
BW> We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or
BW> diskspace to justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's
BW> 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence of a JAM
BW> tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out
BW> there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely
BW> possible. You know of one?
PS: Registered GECHO folks now have JAM. Granted, it's not a public release,
it's like the early versions of gecho were before 1.00 - buy first, then get to
play. I'd suggest finding someone who's actually using JAM, with Gecho, and
see how they like it. (We only use it as a pass-through engine, because of
it's speed, then use Squish for the message bases).
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12c
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2415
To: JOHN PAUL Date: 01/25/94 9:09a
Subj: PSRT request? Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
John Paul babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
JP> Would it be possible next time you're doing anything
JP> with PSRT to put a command line switch or some such in to
JP> modify its display method so that it would just display on
JP> whatever screen line it comes up instead of as explicit
JP> screen positioning?
Sorry, takes too much recoding for one of those quick-n-dirty programs.
Besides, even if it did start out where it was on the screen to begin with, it
scrolls too much information that your original screen won't be there, within
the first couple of seconds of use - at least, that's what I get over here.
--- timEd-A12c
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2416
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/25/94 3:57p
Subj: Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
George Vandervort babbled profusely in a message to Gill Blue:
GV> Not shure about RoseNET, but PCUSENET, will probably need a
GV> UUCP<-> FIDO Mail rocessor like FREDGATE, WAFFLE or GIGO..
GV> I have FRED19q.ZIP (FredGate Beta 1.9Q) and GIGO0114.ZIP
GV> (v0.114) available for freq or Download..
Some notes about GIGO:
That's version 0.97, _dated_ 01-14-94.
GIGO also requires a 386sx or better to run, no exceptions
GIGO is _always_ available at 1:203/7707, magic name "GIGO",
and is also available via internet anonymous ftp,
at ftp.netcom.com:/pub/jfesler
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12c
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 2417
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/27/94 4:30p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH>GMD will detect basically whatever you tell it to. It is an
RH>incredible program. I use it here. The thing you need to be
RH>aware of is that what we call garbage on an IBM based
RH>system, may not be the case to another platform. Some of the
RH>"High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the
RH>mail can be read for them by their equiptment. But guess
RH>what? I don't care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete
RH>the message!
RH> Cheers,
RH> Robert
Well robert i hope that you dont go blind i have been working with some of
that equment and boy i give them more credit than most of my users. the
equment that is need for them is twice in cost than your system and i feel
that your tosser dosent choke on thier messages.
re 10 users here with many diffent types of blind equment and both of my mail
tossers havn't had any problem.
harold
---
* Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2418
To: ALL Date: 01/28/94 12:03a
Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
All I have added a new errorlevel of 101. To activate this please add 701=ON
in the INI file. This will allow you to exit just after the fidonet mail and
other networks are finished (including fileareas) and before the PCUSENET files
start to come. If you look at the UPLD.LST file you will notice that the
PCUSENET.* files are at the end of the list. This is the exact way that they
will come over the satellite. Now I dont know how some of the utilities like
Skymail and PCUTIL will handle this but it is about the best I can do on short
notice to seperate the regular stuff and the usenet stuff. Once I can find a
little bit more time I will work on seperating everything and have different
errorlevels for each network and the file areas. Also took care of the extra
lines in the UPLD.LST file.
...Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE MILLER Number: 2419
To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/27/94 9:23a
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> will cough up additional funds each month for usenet
DS> messages - would it not be in your best interest to do
DS> some of this front end processing yourself before the
DS> info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this was
At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native bag format
would be better in the long run. The bag format can be directly processed by
those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the mail. Also the majority not
all but the majority of systems hooked to the internet already use the bag
format. Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry usenet
to switch over to a less expensive feed.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2420
To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 01/27/94 11:06a
Subj: Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jeff Bowman wrote in a message to Boyd Goodwin:
JB> Hello Boyd!
JB> Well, got the dish up and running.. and the software also..
JB> I have alot of ?'s for you
JB> 1. Is there a way to change the amount of errors a file can
JB> receive before the software trashcans it.
Nope.....
JB> 2. Is there a list of Usenet groups you can send out
I believe one comes in already.......check your directory for the usenet stuff.
JB> 3. When are the lastest files and mail sent out
They usually start a new day between 7 and 8 am
JB> 4. When a file receives just one error.. why does it
JB> trashcan it
Why would you want a corrupt file?.......Understand, there is NO error
correction with PC......its strictly a one way street.
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2421
To: AL HAYS Date: 01/27/94 11:09a
Subj: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Al Hays wrote in a message to All:
AH> I really don't know squat about the in's and out's of the PC
AH> technical stuff, but out Net has purchased a system via our
AH> CRP. Our PC site has expressed a bit of dismay in that the
AH> PC software changed to exit at the end of the transmission
AH> "cycle" regardless whether all files are received and/or
AH> error-free. I have written a small utility that checks the
I dont think anything 'changed' Al......I have been on PC since October of 93
and it has always exited at the end of a cycle......It was upto us to take the
appropriate action at that point. I had to think about it after getting your
netmail :)
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2422
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/27/94 9:39a
Subj: Internet address Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
I sent a few messages to you by Fido but no returns as yet (I think some
got lost due to the abort retry fail that the software sometimes gives
on the LAN when writing upld.lst). I have several questions:
1. What's your Internet address?
2. Can you retransmit PCUSENET.TXT file ( I lost it!!)
3. Approximately what time of the day will you be transmitting USENET
grps and when will it become regular?
Keep up the good work.
Art
* WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2423
To: AL HAYS Date: 01/27/94 9:39p
Subj: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Al!
In a message to All <01/26/94> Al Hays wrote:
AH> I really don't know squat about the in's and out's of the PC technical st
AH> but out Net has purchased a system via our CRP. Our PC site has expresse
AH> bit of dismay in that the PC software changed to exit at the end of the
AH> transmission "cycle" regardless whether all files are received and/or
AH> error-free. I have written a small utility that checks the UPLD.LST again
AH> of his inbound directories and exits with an errorlev based on the findin
AH> Should anyone else find this handy, it is requestable here as UPCHK04B.ZI
AH> 12k.
Thanks Al, we need stuff like this to sort it all out, I am going to
give it a try.
Art
* WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2424
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/27/94 8:36a
Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Is WGA on the bird? I seem to recall seeing a WGAMail file at some
> point. If it is that would be a real bonus to a couple of my users
> who are serious genealogical hobbiests.
Hi Glenn,
every now and then I see WGAMAIL.ZIP come in via PC. However, I'm not sure yet
how often and how reliable the pre-PC feed is. (440:121/99?) We'll have to wait
till Boyd lets us know the official story. I at one point converted over, but
then nothing came in for a while. Now it's here again.
Boyd, what's the scoop on WGA? Is it going to come in daily, weekly,,, or what?
WGA is my last landline network...I want to dump it asap!
Regards
PS. Glenn, how's the cold front out your way? We had -33 C this morning...
brrrrrrrrrrr
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2425
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/27/94 5:26p
Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have a niffty utility called DIZ2BBS.ZIP that works great with
> most of the files that came in without *.TIC
> But If your using NodeDiff.021 then you wil have to wait till
> NodeDiff.028
> to Poll me as Most of my Net got removed from the *.021 Nodelist by
> mistake,
> or you can Poll the Author at 1:3625/441
I got my copy from Terry as well. It's available here, tho I haven't figgered
the way to make it work with TBBS's FILES.DIR format yet...
Available 23hrs/day (except ZMH)
DIZ2BBS.ZIP 10801bytes
--==jb==--
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS (405)737-9540 (1:147/34)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MCCONNELL Number: 2426
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/27/94 1:59p
Subj: PC SYSTEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HI BOYD DO YOU KNOW IF PLANET CONNECT CAN BE PICKED UP IN KOREA IM IN
THE ARMY AND AM GOING THERE IN JULY IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD TAKE A
SAT DISH OVER THERE WITH ME IF I CAN GET IT OVER THERE PLEASE LET ME
KNOW AND COULD YOU SEND ME INFO TO PO BOX 10187 CLARKSVILLE TN 37042
THANKS
--- WM v3.10/92-0433
* Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HARRY MOYLES Number: 2427
To: TBBS SYSOPS.. Date: 01/28/94 6:39p
Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All..
I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems trying to
send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, When I call 3615/50
it will not take my mail. But it I commet out the aka 3615/51 it will send the
mail? How have you guys gotten around that problem ?
Thanks harry..
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Evans BBS,6 gigs,16 cdroms,1 Satellite Dish,616-754-6180 (1:228/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM JACOBS Number: 2428
To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/27/94 5:43p
Subj: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SA> Yep, the only problem so far is the tremendous amount of
> SA> messages/files etc that we are getting. There just aren't
> SA> enough hours in the day to go through all this stuff!
> Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to sort through
> also.
> --jah
Yep, Aren't they great! The only reason I have this service.
Tim Jacobs -
Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: Virginia Data Exchange (1:271/270)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2429
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/28/94 9:21a
Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH> of the "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can
RH> read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't care, if it's go
RH> choke my tosser, I delete the message!
They're stupid screen readers, then, because I don't use any high-bit
triggers. Those blind people that have a problem with this should get a
program that reads the screen, not asks the programs to provide nice high-bit
ascii codes. Those high-bit ascii codes get in my way when I'm reading.
-=*Jeremy*=-
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2430
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/28/94 9:26a
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JM> systems in the area. I'm just wondering if its actually a regular Cnews
JM> batched message bundle, or if its some funky format.
Those messages aren't compressed at all. Standard Unix compression uses
compress16 which cuts down on the size of the bundles. I.E. The bundles that
PC gets are about 500K, zipped, where as the bundles I get with the same
groups are around 2 to 300K and they are in *.d and *.x format. I am almost
positive that zipping them would decrease the size as well.
-=*Jeremy*=-
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2431
To: JOHN LUONG Date: 01/28/94 9:32a
Subj: Re: Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL> What is GIGO? Does it do things like what FredMail does? If it does, you
JL> put WaterGate in the same category...
Gigo is similar to Fredmail, but it doesn't have a roblem with the mapping
statement alt.* rec.*, etc. Fredmail forces you to add each group as it comes
in. My experience shows that many people cross-post their messages into other
areas that you do not get, but they get sent to you. Pc has been doing the
same thing. Previously, the messages were dumped and a big dump file was
created. I switched to Imail for processing of Usenet stuff; since it
auto-adds areas in *.msg format. I have not personally used Watergate, and am
happy with Gigo. The author, Jason Fesler is helpful and posts regularly in
the UFGATE echo. Hope this helps... Oh and one last thing... I know that Gigo
supports the *.bag format, but I don't know if Watergate does and I know you
only have to specify the bags verb in the config file and all you need do is
type gateway and press return. 5 minutes later, you have lots of lovely *.pkt
files to play with.
--Jeremy--
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2432
To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/28/94 9:09a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tom Haavisto wrote in a message to Glenn Caleval:
TH> happened to it. A few messages are leaving the originating
TH> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are
TH> NOT permitted - I have seen quite a few messages where this
GMD works on netmail right? I don't think the same hibit ascii char ban exists
in netmail.
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 2433
To: ALL Date: 01/28/94 1:52p
Subj: Lost PC messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
I know I had received some mail in this echo not too long ago but before
I had a chance to reply I had some massive corruption involving the Table
FATS in quite a few of my message areas including this one so they were
lost. Anyway, to those of you who had written, my humble apologies..
...Di
* WCE 1.5/2184 * ... After dinner, he said, "Your modem or mine?"
--- WM v3.10/93-0963
* Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) 661-8945 (1:3625/470)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 2434
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/28/94 1:58p
Subj: ISNET Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boyd!
One of my users inquired about the SISNET (Scouts) Net and I looked
into it and was told the net had been in touch with PC to get it
put on the bird. Will it be on in the near future? Thanks...
...Di
* WCE 1.5/2184 * ... Modems.....reach out and BYTE someone!
--- WM v3.10/93-0963
* Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) 661-8945 (1:3625/470)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2435
To: ALL Date: 01/28/94 6:53p
Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Pursuant to the "blank" line problem that was discovered in UPLD.LST, a fixed
version of UPCHECK is immediately available as UPCHK05B.ZIP, 13k,
MagicName: UPCHECK.
UPCHECK ver .05ß
Checks a list of directories contained in UPCHECK.CFG for files listed
in a filelist. This is a very simple program. If you are capable of
running a Planet Connect system, you should have no problem figuring out
how to use UPCHECK.
UPCHECK.CFG - ASCII Textfile
Must reside in the directory where UPCHECK.EXE was executed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keywords: @UPLIST - The FULL PATH and name of the list of FileNames. For
Planet connect this would be <drive>\<path>\UPLD.LST.
ONLY ONE UPLIST KEYWORD MAY BE USED!
i.e. @UPLIST D:\PC\UPLOAD.LST
@INPATH - The name of an inbound directory. Many directories
may be listed but each one must appear on a seperate
line and be proceeded by the @INPATH keyword.
@IGNORE - an acceptable DOS Filename (wildcards accepted).
UPCHECK will ignore this file when checking the
@UPLIST. i.e. if you do not care if QWK packets
are received, and all QWK packets are named *.Q??
then the config line "@IGNORE *.Q??" would cause
UPCHECK to continue whether the file existed or not.
All Keywords must begin in Column 1. White space between the keyword and the
parameter is ignored. Keywords and/or parameters are not case sensitive.
Trailing backslashes for directories will be appended if not listed. All
MISSING and IGNORED files are logged in UPCHECK.LOG for later inspection.
Upon completion, UPCHECK exits with the following ERRORLEVELS
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 - All files in @UPLIST found (or ignored)
1 - Error reading UPCHECK.CFG
2 - Error reading @UPLIST
3 - One or more files in @UPLIST were not located
4 - Error creating or writing to UPCHECK.LOG
5 - @UPLIST name in UPCHECK.CFG not found or bogus
Regards,
Al
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2436
To: DAVE MILLER Date: 01/29/94 12:17a
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Dave!
In a message to Dave Sloan <01/27/94> Dave Miller wrote:
DM> DS> will cough up additional funds each month for usenet
DM> DS> messages - would it not be in your best interest to do
DM> DS> some of this front end processing yourself before the
DM> DS> info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this was
DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native bag forma
DM> would be better in the long run. The bag format can be directly processe
DM> those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the mail. Also the majori
DM> all but the majority of systems hooked to the internet already use the ba
DM> format. Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry
DM> to switch over to a less expensive feed.
DM>
Absolutely correct, the last thing I want is the bag files changed!!!
Hands of our BAG files!!!!
* WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 2437
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/28/94 8:40a
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Mauro Incrocci:
RH> system, may not be the case to another platform. Some of the
RH> "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the
RH> mail can be read for them by their equiptment. But guess
RH> what? I don't care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete
RH> the message!
How do you figure? Being legally blind, I've *never* seen a speech package
that requires high-ASCII to be in the text...In fact, most of them can't handle
high-ASCII, and simply read an ASCII 254 (the little box a lot of QWK readers
use around their taglines) as "Character two fifty four"...There are only two
kinds of messages that would contain high ASCII, those that are grunged, and
those that are not in English, which may as well be grunged...Unless of course
some people are into using those cute little boxes and bars in a FidoNet area
where it doesn't belong...
Later...
---
* Origin: Sean's Pointless Point (1:124/7026.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2438
To: MICHAEL ERWIN Date: 01/28/94 11:45p
Subj: Re: Lock with OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ME> If you select your printer object with the right mouse button, goto the
ME> ports page in the Setup notebook, and select the port that the lock is on
ME> with the right mouse button, You can open another setup for that port.
ME> There will be another setup notebook. You will notice a share access
ME> option. Turn it ON. You should work now.
Michael, I take it you've been able to get PTCCMAIN to work in a DOS box on
OS/2? If so, would you share the DOS settings you used, Comm drivers you had
installed at the time, the seriel port you were using, and what, if any,
changes you might have made in PTCCMAIN.INI? I have the Share option turned
on, and still can't get PTCCMAIN to run with or without the Dongle. There are
a LOT of people that would be VERY interested in how you did it!
Thanks,
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2439
To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/27/94 3:24p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> solid as I think it should be. By hiccup, I mean that hosed
> mail comes in, and this thing turns arounds and ships it back out
> (with my origin line), and a stripped seen-by line. And yes - I
> have contacted the author about this.
Until he fixes, you should use other software. You should not force the
inadequacies of your software on others by deleting mail to compensate for poor
programming.
> 95% of the mail is fine. Some mail is nowhere even close to
> what the spec calls for. You do know what a spec is - that
> is what everyone is *supposed* to follow.
Perhaps you should *carefully* read the actual specs as they have been
promulgated by the FTSC. The vast majority of stuff that GMD can be configured
to delete is totally *within* spec and no one has any business deleting it. In
fact, I think there are only two configurable options in GMD that actually have
anything to do with the formal specs at all.
For example, the spec does NOT prohibit high order bits in echomail, but
explicitly states that software should NOT delete such msgs. The specs also
*explictly* provide that software should be able to cope with unlimited msg
size. Yet the most common uses of GMD are to delete legitimate, in-spec msgs
because they contain high order chars or are exceed some arbitrary length to
suit some brain dead mail program.
> When a message has multiple origin lines, this tells
> me that something bad happened to it.
Have you ever wondered how what you think are "grunged" msgs managed to make it
through the many systems enroute to your system without breaking anyone elses
software? Obviously all the mail software that handled it before it got to you,
managed to pass it on gracefully or it would never have arrived on your system.
> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are NOT
> permitted -
Excuse me, but that is bullshit. Please read the specs you are busily trying to
wave in my face. HI-ASCII characters ARE SO permitted, quite explicitly.
> Please remember that FidoNet has many types of machines (and
> even more types of software) attached to it. PC graphics don't
So the software used on the *end* node should be capable of modifying, or
deleting the msgs that offend that given end node. Those who are supposed to
MOVE the MAIL have no business deleting that which they have agreed to move.
Only where the mail path terminates, ie. the end-node, should such software be
used.
> Atari or a Commodore 64. The spec (when followed) should mean
Please do read those specs you are going on about.
> I could go on, but I hope you get the picture here. I realize
> that you seem to think that anything that you ship out from your
> system is fair game, regardless of how damaged it may be (and can
> cause problems for other software as a result). Sorry - I don't
> feel this way - if I AM shipping out mail that is malformed, I WANT
> to know about it, so I can get the problem fixed.
Few things. First to my knowledge no msg has ever left my system that fits even
the broadest "grunged" defintion. I know for a fact that msgs have not been
*delivered* to my system because some pathological upstream of me was using
GMD. So I am not, as you sarcastically write, concerned about what leaves here,
but what people like you are preventing from arriving. You obviously think you
can volunteer to move mail and then arbitrarily decide what you will delete
based on mythology of what the specs actually are. And, you clearly do not know
what the real specs are or you would not be misrepresenting them here.
Secondly you seem to feel that if a msg *might* affect your system negatively,
you have the right to prevent others from receiving it even though their
systems are fully capable of handling the msg gracefully. Finally, if you are
deleting msgs, the sysop who generated the msg will NOT know that he has
"created a problem." GMD is not capable of informing the originator of a msg of
the fact that the msg has been deleted. One version of GMD notifies the
immediate uplink, but that is rarely the originator of the msg and mail hubs
have pretty much unanimously announced they consider such notifications to be
annoying since they are *not* the originators. So NONE of what you say you want
to accomplish is accomplished by GMD except the possibility of saving you from
some minor personal inconveniences. In such a situation, you should seek a
volunteer replacement capable of runnning software that is not so inconvenient.
It is getting ludicrous, to the point that an REC recently posted grunged
NETMAIL generated by Planet Connect (you know those occasional glips we've been
getting) as examples of the utility of GMD. Except, GMD is intended to operate
on echomail, not netmail and that dealing with those examples is trivial
without the heavy hand of GMD.
This hobby is about communicating, not deleting communication.
> tool for the job (and YES - if allowed to do so, it CAN violate
> the policy that I am doing my meager best to try and uphold).
If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its journey on your
own system, without notifying the originator of that msg, you ARE in violation
of Policy 4.x
.glenn.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2440
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 11:10a
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hello boyd..
RH>-> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to
>-> check and see what kind of administative nightmare this will be.
it would be very nice to be able to send the news groups back thru
you..say..in pkt form...if we could have a standardized echo tag list
for our areas.bbs it would be great...if i have to pay holonet
$10 to $15 a month for return mail then why not pay you and make only 1
phone call a night..like you said..another nightmare for you..
btw how are we coming on getting circuitnet up on the bird?
jery
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2441
To: STEVE NEWMAN Date: 01/29/94 11:11a
Subj: hi steve Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SN> Just a test to see if we've got this all correct. For others in this
> echo I'd like to say...Hey, sorry for the test but how do you think
> the Wright Brothers did it? <G> Thanks!
fancy seeing you here...welcome..
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2442
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/27/94 6:19p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
James McOrmond wrote:
JM> In a message of Su 23-Jan-94 19:09, Dan Williamson wrote:
JM> I'm already running UseNet on my system and distribute to a
JM> number of other systems in the area. I'm just wondering if
JM> its actually a regular Cnews batched message bundle, or if
JM> its some funky format.
Yup. That's what it is with a munged file name. The *.BAG files that are
recovered from uncompressing the incoming packages are compressed batches
without the execution instruction file (*.D with no *.X associated).
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RIC WALSH Number: 2443
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 4:58a
Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
Friday January 28 1994 00:03, Boyd Goodin wrote to All:
BG> All I have added a new errorlevel of 101. To activate this
BG> please add 701=ON in the INI file. This will allow you to exit
BG> just after the fidonet mail and other networks are finished
BG> (including fileareas) and before the PCUSENET files start to
BG> come.
BG> ................ Also took care
BG> of the extra lines in the UPLD.LST file.
Thanks for all of your efforts to improve the system ! I know it is very time
consuming(plus answering all of our dumb phone calls). I understand that you
(and the rest of the PC folk) must make slow deliberate changes to the system
because it effects us ALL. Whats good for me might cause great trouble for the
next guy. It is imposible to satisfy everyone.
Hang in there. Your doing a fine job.
Again thanks.. (Ma Bell must hate you guys however)
Ric
--- GoldED 2.42.G1121+
* Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLEN DAVIS Number: 2444
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 11:14a
Subj: Session Password Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd,
I started getting a message from your front end re: Need a session level
password, but I have no idea what that password should be.
Can you help?
-Glen
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: |=[Bloom Co. Hospital>=--- |[GRapids MI] (616)361-8345 (1:228/500)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2445
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/28/94 10:23a
Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner VSCAN,
VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the satellite?
--- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin
* Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2446
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/28/94 10:24a
Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me a non-corrupted registered version of TVAGENT. I put the one
you sent me back in box with the defective satellite receiver I sent back to
you. Thanks.
--- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin
* Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DEAN WEST Number: 2447
To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/28/94 4:03p
Subj: Re: PC Questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Monday January 17 1994 10:13, Jeff Olesen wrote to Don Waybright:
Jeff....
JO>
JO> Perhaps it's not available in the U.S. I am in Canada, so I bought from
JO> the Canadian price list. Perhaps Boyd could answer your question better.
As I to am looking into setting up a Sat downlink, where can someone get a copy
of the Canadian price list. Would rather buy Canadian to avoid all the hassle
of getting it over the border.
C'ya
Dean
--- GoldED 2.42.G1219
* Origin: Great Bellowing Moose.... HST/DS Terbo (FidoNet 1:353/719)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2448
To: ALL Date: 01/29/94 9:00p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Help !
Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running
RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This suppose to be
a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill
Blue
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2449
To: DAVE MILLER Date: 01/28/94 11:55p
Subj: Re: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native bag format
DM> would be better in the long run. The bag format can be directly processed
DM> those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the mail. Also the majority
DM> not all but the majority of systems hooked to the internet already use the
DM> format. Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry
DM> usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed.
I Disagree! The news batches I get from the Unix system locally are compressed
with comp16 and I have already stated that compression takes out some of the
excess space and time which is something we all are concerned with. Even at
19.2K, things will move along slowly. What kind of through-put do you get
with the PC software?
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2450
To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/29/94 11:09a
Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I dont think anything 'changed' Al...
To tell you the truth, I really don't have the slightest idea. Bill simply
described what he needed and I poked out some code <g>.
BTW: What language is Ed using for SKYMAIL?
Al
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2451
To: ART MACK Date: 01/29/94 11:12a
Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Thanks Al, we need stuff like this to sort it all out, I am going to
> give it a try.
Cool. Let me know how it works, what else you need it to do, etc.
Al
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2452
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 01/29/94 8:59p
Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<=> Guy VanDell Was Heard Saying This To Don Kulha:
GV>Although the people in fidonet seem to have a lot more time
GV>to whine and complain than the usenet people do.
And I am sure we all would miss you if you were to leave fidoland......?
These are senseless comments, I see why you are unhappy.
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2453
To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/29/94 9:40p
Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
<=> Joe Hayes Was Heard Saying This To Boyd Goodin:
JH>Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd?
JH>I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will.
Heh heh, you and alotta other people, wait till Boyd charges you extra money
for stuff you are sending to the bit bucket! In your ptccmain.ini file change
the 700=on to 701=on, then you will exit right when the Overkill of USEnet
Newsgroups start to move down towards you. I was sending this to >Null
along with those ever popular QWK packets before they gave me this option, now
I am waiting for the option of Only paying for what I signed for.
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2454
To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/29/94 10:07p
Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PP>> Show me a company that is just starting and hiring new people that are
PP>as
PP>> organized as you want it to be. Everything takes time. Heck a year ago I
PP>had
PP>> no idea about how this all works. But At least I am trying to figure it
PP>all
PP>> out.
Well Boyd, if that company doesn't have a monopoly on the market, then
their customers will RUN not walk away. You are only as good as the people who
surround you, in a "normal" new business situation, you would be an empty
building.
PP>> I will not lie. It will get better but from your comments, not fast
PP>> enough for you.
Thats not a good way to talk to customers, you need a few people skills
here Boyd.
Tell'm Patty!!
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2455
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 10:20p
Subj: Usenet returns. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<=> Boyd Goodin Was Heard Saying This To All!:
BG> Who ever is returning usenet feeds via fido to here better
BG>stop it.
I am sending mine straight to >Null, could it be me? Hope not, I will check
:+)
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2456
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/29/94 10:24p
Subj: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JM>In a message of Tu 18-Jan-94 04:34, Rick Ashworth wrote:
JM> RA> Richard Holler of the AD- file areas has restrictions to
JM> RA> PCSITES only for any of those file areas. Since many systems
JM> RA> run MO hubs, that means the AD- areas are never seen by
JM> RA> anyone but the PCSITE owner. Real smart.
Heya, I didn't agree to anything of the sort, with him or PC, once I get
files through PC, they are mine for whatever I want, I only agreed about the
weather and TV stuff, look at the contract.
This isn't to you James, just used your masseage.
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2457
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/29/94 10:44p
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<=> Jason Fesler Was Heard Saying This To Bill Whitehouse:
JF>PS: Registered GECHO folks now have JAM. Granted, it's not
JF>a public release, it's like the early versions of gecho were
JF>before 1.00 - buy first, then get to play. I'd suggest
JF>finding someone who's actually using JAM, with Gecho, and see
JF>how they like it. (We only use it as a pass-through engine,
JF>because of it's speed, then use Squish for the message
JF>bases).
20 messages per second here, it's known to be a good piece of software, so
it's not like you are in the dark about weather it will function as well as the
other versions have, that's why Gerard took so long to write it, it's the best.
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2458
To: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Date: 01/29/94 10:59p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TO: bryan
bb>reliably, they'll eventually have alot more usenet
bb>subscribers than
bb>Fidonet subscribers.
bb>News/Email (1:282/31)
Oh Nooo, It's gonna be a USEnet attack!! Stop the gonna be stuff, and let
Boyd answer his question, geeeezz!
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2459
To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 12:03a
Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Harry!
In a message to Tbbs Sysops.. <01/28/94> Harry Moyles wrote:
HM> I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems tryi
HM> send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, When I call 361
HM> it will not take my mail. But it I commet out the aka 3615/51 it will sen
HM> mail? How have you guys gotten around that problem ?
I had the same problem with D'Bridge. I just went to an external Mail
processor (Gecho) and removed the AKA from DB and all the problems went
away. The problem is in that 51 can not be in your Mailers AKA's only in
your Tosser.
Tom
* WCE 1.5/2101 * This tag line is "Bulletin Broad-proof"!
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013]
* Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2460
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/29/94 2:33a
Subj: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello James!
Friday January 21 1994 14:01, James McOrmond wrote to Rick Ashworth:
RA>> Richard Holler of the AD- file areas has restrictions to
RA>> PCSITES only for any of those file areas. Since many systems
RA>> run MO hubs, that means the AD- areas are never seen by
RA>> anyone but the PCSITE owner. Real smart.
JM> Ugh. No kidding. This guy was kidding right?!?! :-)
I sent him netmail a couple of weeks ago, but have not received a reply. He's
an ASP author, too, and I wonder if the support for his prg is as good as his
support for questions about the AD- echoes?
Rick
--- GoldED 2.41+
* Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2461
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/29/94 4:46p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are NOT
>> permitted -
>Excuse me, but that is bulls**t. Please read the specs you are busily
>trying to wave in my face. HI-ASCII characters ARE SO permitted, quite
>explicitly.
Glenn,
You are quite right about the specs, but usually "policy"
dictates otherwise..
For example, Fidonet Echomail Policy prohibits High-ASCII
in Headers, Origin Lines, Taglines, but does permit them
in the body of the text if moderator/rules permit it.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2462
To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 01/26/94 7:11a
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
According to John Johnson (1:291/11) on Mon, Jan 24 at 22:22:
>> tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out
>> there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely
>> possible. You know of one?
JJ>The JAM'able GEcho has been out for a short while now...
JJ>Works GREAT!
Thanks, arrived tonight. Looks absolutely lovely.
JJ>-!- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN
JJ> ! Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11)
^^^^
Shoot, you didn't have to go far for it, didja? ;-)
--- msgedsq 2.1
* Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2463
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/30/94 1:49a
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
According to Jason Fesler (1:203/7707.1) on Tue, Jan 25 at 09:07:
BW>> A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence
BW>> of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out
JF>I'd suggest finding someone who's actually
JF>using JAM, with Gecho, and see how they like it.
Had it running here four or five days now and have mixed feelings about
it.
JF>(We only use it as a
JF>pass-through engine, because of it's speed, then use Squish for the
JF>message bases).
You're absolutely right. We tried Squish when our dish first went up, gave
QM a shot, then settled on Gecho for the same reason, its speed.
On the other hand, GEcho/386 1.02+ seems to require an ALL-MESSAGE-BASE
crawl before it'll scan out new mail, seeing and deleting ECHOMAIL.JAM (the
equivelant of echotoss.log) without acting on it.
I dunno, the JAM format represents some obvious improvements but speed
isn't one of them. A JAM-base mail check is slow, sure death. Even RBBS - the
grand old wheeze benchmark - is faster than this. Software evolves, patience is
in short supply. Hope these remarks don't offend anyone.
regards,
Bill
--- msgedsq 2.1
* Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2464
To: JACK WINSLADE Date: 01/27/94 6:41p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan2718:41, Jack Winslade of 1:285/1 writes:
JW> That would effectively kill us and a number of others who are
JW> thinking of signing up. We and others process Usenet using
JW> the standard c-news package which takes the .bag files quite
JW> easily, as do the usenet->fido processors. Every usenet->fido
JW> processor I've seen bastardizes the newsgroup names in one
JW> way or another and screws with the headers.
JW>
JW> It's a lot easier to convert usenet->fido than it is to convert
JW> the converted stuff back to RFC-1036 format.
Well I guess then the least I can hope for is that the groups are sorted.
Thanks for the input.
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2465
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 2:03a
Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to All:
BG>
BG> All I have added a new errorlevel of 101. To activate
BG> this please add 701=ON in the INI file. This will allow you
BG> to exit just after the fidonet mail and other networks are
BG> finished (including fileareas) and before the PCUSENET files
Great!
BG> satellite. Now I dont know how some of the utilities like
BG> Skymail and PCUTIL will handle this but it is about the best
BG> I can do on short notice to seperate the regular stuff and
BG> the usenet stuff. Once I can find a little bit more time I
Thats more than sufficient.....I dont know about PCUTIL but that will work FINE
with SkyMail since you can tell it to ignore the PCUSENET files.
BG> Also took care of the extra lines in the UPLD.LST file.
THANK YOU :) I think Ed is going to do an update to make SkyMail ignore them
anyway.....It was something that got overlooked since it never had happened
before.
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF MURPHY Number: 2466
To: DON KULHA Date: 01/29/94 12:01a
Subj: Sunny Daze... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> to ask my wife if thats what it was. When I order PC I'll
> have to consider celibacy though....
Well, we all have our priorities.... :-) But like was said in another
message, hope you don't go blind. Manually speaking. Of course, they seemed to
mean it differently.
> Can you tell I've been doing this for too long? Nine
> years as of 1/1...
Whoa, flashback. For a minute there, I thought you meant Fidoing as opposed to
having sex. I got involved in Fidonet in 1987. My wife had cut me off for
three years at that point, and I was getting tired of biting the interior of my
mouth. Hmm. I guess you *did* mean that. :-)
Nice chatting. I'm out of line here (generally, actually), so will go back to
the neighborly loneliness we call echomail. Best wishes.
---
* Origin: Mother Murphy's Point Portland, OR (1:105/222.3)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2467
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/25/94 8:15p
Subj: NewsGroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd, today is Jan 25 and the hasn't been any newsgroups since the
23rd. Is there a problem? Can we expect to get the newsgroups on a daily
basis. I understand that you are just setting things up and just want to
know if this is the reason. Keep up the good work!
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2468
To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/30/94 12:28p
Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Thomas!
Friday January 28 1994 10:23, Thomas Beal wrote to Boyd Goodin:
TB> I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner
TB> VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the
TB> satellite?
I got them via the PC Satellite feed...
Look in these file areas...
1. UTILNET2
SCANV111.ZIP
CLEAN111.ZIP
VSH111.ZIP
2. WIN_UTIL
WSCAN111.ZIP
3. FWUTIL <=== OS/2
OSCN111.ZIP
OCLN111.ZIP
Regards,
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICHARD REED Number: 2469
To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 01/30/94 12:06p
Subj: Ad (author direct) fdn Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Heya, I didn't agree to anything of the sort, with him or PC, once I
-> get files through PC, they are mine for whatever I want, I only agreed about
-> the weather and TV stuff, look at the contract.
Well, I disagree with you, the software you get from the satellite is not your,
it is own by the author who wrote the program.. So we all should respect the
author request.. Hell, if we cant follow rules or request from the author or
site, we will risk losing the feed from that site..
Sooooo... Ciao..
Richard
--- InterEcho 1.00/b05
* Origin: M.T.C. Online BBS, Chesapeake Virginia, U.S.A. (1:275/81)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 2470
To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 11:35a
Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems
So do I.
What do you have for nodes in your areas.bbs file?
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Outdoor Sportsman's bbs Fargo ND, (701)-239-6048 (1:288/6)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2471
To: CHARLIE CARTER Date: 01/29/94 9:54p
Subj: Re: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled
> people at this point in time and I assume you are hoping that
> we will cough up additional funds each month for usenet
> messages - would it not be in your best interest to do some of
> this front end processing yourself before the info goes on the
> BIG BIRD. I think that if this was done then more people would
> consider paying for these services - right now I pay 50
CC>
CC>
CC> I'll second that motion..........
CC>
<-> Charlie <->
There are several ways in which you can process the news bundles into *.pkt
format. You as the subscriber get a better deal by being able to configure
which header lines you want. Many Usenet messages contain many header lines
which you may or may not want. The Usenet pathline can help you in obtaining
where the messages came from, but an average user won't want to see that. In
your configuration you may optionally hide, kill, or leave lines in the
messages.
-=*Jeremy*=-
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2472
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/29/94 9:57p
Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF> solid usenet feed and running a stable gateway already, in _both_ direction
JF>
On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's config file as to
which groups I get?
-=*Jeremy*=-
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2473
To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/29/94 12:35p
Subj: VALUE ADDED SERVICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> yourself before the info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this
> was done then more people would consider paying for these services -
> right now I pay 50 dollars a year for all the newsgroups that I
> want, since I live close to a non - long distance calling site.
> Anyway just my opinion on value added service.... Replies most
> welcome.-> Dave
Dave, I will not pay for newsgroups at all! I can get them free ($35/year) via
a local call. The satellite option would be more of convenience than anything
else.
Regards
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DANIEL LANSALL Number: 2474
To: JIM BECKHAM Date: 01/30/94 4:59a
Subj: Mac Distribution Network Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DL> MDN doesn't seem to be getting you this node. Any ideas
DL> why?
JB> I'm wondering the same thing. I'm VERY interested in carrying the
JB> Macintosh File Echos, but have been told by my hub that they've never
JB> had any traffic.
God, did I type that?!! I meant. MDN isn't getting to the satellite uplink. I
saw a message somewhere saying that the link from zone 3 (Australia) to zone 1
(N. America) was 'broken'. I assume someone is trying to fix it. Do you have
any contacts that may be able to help?
Does anybody?
Daniel.
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2475
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/31/94 1:38a
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are NOT
>>> permitted -
>>Excuse me, but that is bulls**t. Please read the specs you are busily
>>trying to wave in my face. HI-ASCII characters ARE SO permitted, quite
>>explicitly.
> Glenn, You are quite right about the specs, but usually "policy" dictates
> otherwise.. For example, Fidonet Echomail Policy prohibits High-ASCII in
> Headers, Origin Lines, Taglines, but does permit them in the body of the
> text if moderator/rules permit it.
Pardon me, Dave, but the *ONLY* Policy document in force in FidoNet is POLICY4
... period. There is *no* FidoNet echomail policy. The use of High ASCII
charachters in Echomail is an echo-by-echo decision of the individual
moderators.
*NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail due to the
existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does so is in clear violation
of POLICY4. Moderators may warn, suspend, or terminate feeds due to rule
violations (if HI-ASCII is forbidden) but no Hub or mail distribution system
may take it upon themsleves to censor echomail in this manner.
Al
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WOLF Number: 2476
To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/30/94 1:45p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Help !
> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ?
> I am running
> RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of
> FRED. This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I
> think.. any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill
> Blue
Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, along with GEcho
1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for me, from the moment I installed
the package. Plus Jason is very helpful in answering any questions.
Bill
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 2477
To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 01/30/94 11:23a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Russell Naber wrote in a message to Boyd Goodwin:
RN> Test message to check links to pconnect.
You failed, miserably...:-)
Later...
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: The .\ssylum * Cedar Hill, TX * Clinton/Barney in '96 (1:124/7026)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE MILLER Number: 2478
To: ART MACK Date: 01/30/94 1:24p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Art!
Art was heard to say:
AM> Absolutely correct, the last thing I want is the bag files changed!!!
AM> Hands of our BAG files!!!!
AMEN!
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 2479
To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/30/94 11:57p
Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan 28 10:23>, Thomas Beal writes:
TB>I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner
TB>VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the
TB>satellite?
They've been coming through the UTILNET2 link. Latest are Ver 111.
D.
--- msgedsq 2.0.5
* Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2480
To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/28/94 2:26p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
James McOrmond babbled profusely in a message to Dan Williamson:
JM> I'm already running UseNet on my system and distribute to a
JM> number of other systems in the area. I'm just wondering if
JM> its actually a regular Cnews batched message bundle, or if
JM> its some funky format.
Standard .D/.X files from UUCP, except renamed to .BAG files. You'll need to
run the rmail program via script once for each file, using the .BAG files for
the standard input.
Of course, on an Amiga, your mileage will no doubt vary ;-)
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12d
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2481
To: JACK WINSLADE Date: 01/28/94 2:28p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jack Winslade babbled profusely in a message to Dave Sloan:
JW> That would effectively kill us and a number of others who
..
JW> It's a lot easier to convert usenet->fido than it is to
JW> convert the converted stuff back to RFC-1036 format.
Amen to that.. I like the ability to map area names out as local needs dictate,
and to be able to select which headers are deemed important and which headers
are simply nuisances. Setting up a gateway program should be a peice of cake
for anyone that can setup PC; after all, the gateway program is _only_ a peice
of software.. :-)
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12d
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE HAYES Number: 2482
To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 01/30/94 1:56p
Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<=> Joe Hayes Was Heard Saying This To Boyd Goodin:
JH>Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd?
JH>I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will.
MF> Heh heh, you and alotta other people, wait till Boyd charges you
MF> extra money for stuff you are sending to the bit bucket! In your
MF> ptccmain.ini file change the 700=on to 701=on, then you will exit
MF> right when the Overkill of USEnet Newsgroups start to move down
MF> towards you. I was sending this to >Null
MF> along with those ever popular QWK packets before they gave me this
MF> option, now I am waiting for the option of Only paying for what I
MF> signed for.
MF> Murry
Already have it Murry, also use the 701=on to exit after the fido and files..
NO, I WON'T PAY EXTRA! If it comes to that I will sell my system to some
unexpecting person.
I bought mine for 3 reasons, Fido, files, and Weather. Although we was all
promised a "door" of some kind so callers can download "raw" weather data. I
have a lot of callers at 2400 baud, if they want the maps, then there whole
hour is shot! So most are not downloding them..
Personaly I don't care what Boyd want's to send "extra" some want it and use
it. I seriously can't see why the charges for the extra stuff is so high.
$30-$40 dollars a month from 1,000+ users can add up to a lot!
By the way, last month the files that had no .tics was appreciated here, my
file manager used the file_id.diz with no problems.
-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2483
To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/30/94 9:26p
Subj: Re: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner
>VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the
>satellite?
>--- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin
> * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135)
Thomas,
Didn't the folks at McAfee have a problem with someone
distributing a "fake" version?
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2484
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/30/94 7:00p
Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Do you have a PROPER list one can use for PC? Can one get a copy
-> of it?
not sure of the specifics for WIldcat but I have one that works for PCBoard's
importing programs and it's PC.TXT available on my BBS at 701-775-1143.. enjoy
- it took me a while to compile that one <G>
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2485
To: HAROLD CARLSON Date: 01/30/94 8:18a
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
harold Carlson wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar:
hC> Well robert i hope that you dont go blind i have been
hC> working with some of that equment and boy i give them more
hC> credit than most of my users. the equment that is need for
hC> them is twice in cost than your system and i feel that your
hC> tosser dosent choke on thier messages.
hC> re 10 users here with many diffent types of blind equment
hC> and both of my mail tossers havn't had any problem.
Ok harold, you make a good point. So good in fact, I decided not to run GMD and
guess what? Psort (a great program) made a 30meg *.Pkt file the other day and
it was grunged so renamed to *.Bad. So, i then took out psort also and about 5
of the numerous packets were named *.Bad still. But at least most of the mail
got out. At any rate, no matter how I look at it, the mail that is invalid wont
go out anyway, so I am back to running GMD. My downlinks also like the clean
packets!
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2486
To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 01/30/94 8:26a
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sean Peoples wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar:
SP> How do you figure? Being legally blind, I've *never* seen a
SP> speech package that requires high-ASCII to be in the
We are talking about hardware, not software. Ask Harold Carlson, he has worked
with these systems. (Look back a few messages to see his reply to me)
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE PERKINS Number: 2487
To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 01/30/94 8:25a
Subj: How in the world... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well John, I've tried to call your board several times to get your PC.TXT file.
Each time I called into your board I have spent 6 to 10 minutes just trying to
get to a menu. You seem to have something slowing things way down. I should
have been able to get to the main menu in a lot less than 3 minutes. I have
also tried to freq the file but you must not have it available for fido
freqing. Would it be possible for you to send it up to Saltair or Boyd's
board? I would like to take a look at it. I have spent several hours adding
the news groups into PCB & PCBUUCP and have a long way to go. Any ideas or
help on how to speed this process up would be appreaciated. I would also like
to make sure I do it right the first time. <grin>
Thanks
Mike
--- TosScan 1.00
* Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2488
To: AL HAYS Date: 01/30/94 6:07p
Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Al Hays wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer:
> I dont think anything 'changed' Al...
AH>
AH> To tell you the truth, I really don't have the slightest
AH> idea. Bill simply described what he needed and I poked out
AH> some code <g>.
AH>
AH> BTW: What language is Ed using for SKYMAIL?
Pascal......
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2489
To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/31/94 8:10a
Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thomas Beal wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin:
TB> I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's
TB> Virus Scanner VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not
TB> allowed to be distributed on the satellite?
They are coming into Utilnet2. Check your directories, they should be in there.
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2490
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/31/94 8:19a
Subj: IDC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
I was just wondering if you guys have any plans on upgrading the PC hardware so
that we can get more than 19.2k. If there is a way to do it, then you can add
more stuff and we wouldn't have to worry about missing files. Is it even
possible to get more throughput with the latest technology? It would be nice to
receive at 115kbps! <G>
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2491
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/31/94 8:27a
Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
Everyone here will probably want to kill me for saying it, but why don't you
get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk and Weather files that I'm sure the
_majority_ here don't use. Then we would be able to get more cycles per day
(and maybe a "FULL Usenet feed) until there is a faster way to downlink to us?
Receiving all the Fido and Usenet stuff is more of a priority than the other
things anyway.
( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( )
Cheers,
Robert
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE MILLER Number: 2492
To: JEREMY HALL Date: 01/31/94 12:16p
Subj: Re: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it
DM> in the native bag format
DM> would be better in the long run. The bag format
DM> can be directly processed
DM> those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the
DM> mail. Also the majority
DM> not all but the majority of systems hooked to the
DM> internet already use the
DM> format. Therefore you make it easy for these
DM> systems that already carry
DM> usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed.
JH> I Disagree! The news batches I get from the Unix system
JH> locally are compressed
JH> with comp16 and I have already stated that compression
JH> takes out some of the
JH> excess space and time which is something we all are
JH> concerned with. Even at
JH> 19.2K, things will move along slowly. What kind of
JH> through-put do you get
JH> with the PC software?
Now just a minute I made no statement as far as compression was concered. The
files are however currently compressed with PKZIP2.4G so it's not like the
transmission is the large uncompressed bag file. What I was responding to
however was a statement made eariler that I interpreted to mean that the
gentlemen wanted Boyd to convert the bag files over to PKT files for him. I
and several others that use UNIX boxs for Usenet news groups don't want to have
to mess with a PKT to BAG file conversion. Cnews want's bag files so thats
what we want. Currently we get our news from UUNET but we will be switching
over to PC and will only be sending our return news back through UUNET. As for
throughput on PC I haven't really bothered to notice. The system is dedicated
and just keeps sucking the data in all day processing Bag files as they become
available.
Regards, Dave.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2493
To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/31/94 7:46a
Subj: Re: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner
TB> VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the
TB> satellite?
Scan, Vshield, and Clean were hatched into Utilnet and Utilnet2 several days
ago.
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2494
To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/31/94 6:56a
Subj: Re: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running
GB> RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This
GB> suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be
GB> appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue
Gigo, in its docs, states that RA is not compliant with FSC-35 standards.
Gigo is an alternative to Fred, works better, too. Configuration isn't as
difficult and you only have to run one program rather than 3 or 4.
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2495
To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 01/31/94 7:15a
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> it would be very nice to be able to send the news groups back thru
JS> you..say..in pkt form...if we could have a standardized echo tag list
JS> for our areas.bbs it would be great...if i have to pay holonet
JS> $10 to $15 a month for return mail then why not pay you and make only 1
JS> phone call a night..like you said..another nightmare for you..
You could also make your usenet return mail like I do and then look in the
Planet subdirectory under spool for the files. Then zip them and come up with
a unique name for them and send them off to Boyd. He'll unzip, toss, and then
send to his uplink. I would say use the same first 8 that your tosser uses
for him, then rename the extention to .pcu.
Side note:
There are many systems that allow posting into newsgroups via Email.
Utexas.edu is one of them. Do not send files, though.
-=*Jeremy*=-
--- Renegade V07-17BETA
* Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2496
To: AL HAYS Date: 01/31/94 9:36p
Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BTW: What language is Ed using for SKYMAIL?
I have seen several references to skymail. What exactly does it do?
-jim-
--- WM v3.10/93-1181
* Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 2497
To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/30/94 11:46p
Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill,
* In a message originally to Jason Fesler, Bill Whitehouse said:
> According to Jason Fesler (1:203/7707.1) on Tue, Jan 25 at
> 09:07:
> BW>> A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence
> BW>> of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out
> JF>I'd suggest finding someone who's actually
> JF>using JAM, with Gecho, and see how they like it.
> Had it running here four or five days now and have mixed
> feelings about it.
> JF>(We only use it as a
> JF>pass-through engine, because of it's speed, then use Squish for the
> JF>message bases).
> You're absolutely right. We tried Squish when our dish
> first went up, gave QM a shot, then settled on Gecho for the
> same reason, its speed.
> On the other hand, GEcho/386 1.02+ seems to require an
> ALL-MESSAGE-BASE crawl before it'll scan out new mail, seeing
> and deleting ECHOMAIL.JAM (the equivelant of echotoss.log)
> without acting on it.
> I dunno, the JAM format represents some obvious
> improvements but speed isn't one of them. A JAM-base mail
> check is slow, sure death. Even RBBS - the grand old wheeze
> benchmark - is faster than this. Software evolves, patience
> is in short supply. Hope these remarks don't offend anyone.
Are you calling GE up with the -quick switch? ie:
Gecho toss scan -quick import pack -flags
Scans, finds my new and is done in under 30 sec.s here with 900+
JAM areas. The quick switch tells it to use the *.bbs and *.jam files instead
of doing a complete scan.
John
--- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN
* Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2498
To: AL HAYS Date: 01/31/94 11:12p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Pardon me, Dave, but the *ONLY* Policy document in force in FidoNet is
>POLICY4 ... period. There is *no* FidoNet echomail policy. The use of
>High ASCII charachters in Echomail is an echo-by-echo decision of the
>individual moderators.
Al,
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that "echomail policy"
was in force but only that something existed and was
being used as a guide by the moderators of said echos..
>*NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail due to the
>existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does so is in clear
>violation of POLICY4. Moderators may warn, suspend, or terminate feeds due
>to rule violations (if HI-ASCII is forbidden) but no Hub or mail
>distribution system may take it upon themsleves to censor echomail in this
I agree with you completely. I would think that GMD
was only being used to alert/notify nodes of possible
problems, but not change/delete any mail.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.5B (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2499
To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 9:42a
Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems
> trying to send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame,
Harry,
It's real easy. You set up your AREAS.BBS so that your uplink is 3615/50. The
AKA in FLAME is 3615/51, but that's the only place you have that AKA. Do NOT
use it in your TIMS setup, for instance.
Are you using a nanny for pre-processing and hubbing, or just tossing directly
into TBBS?
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2500
To: DAVE MILLER Date: 01/30/94 6:39p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan3018:39, Dave Miller of 1:285/26 writes:
DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native
DM> bag format would be better in the long run. The bag format can
DM> be directly processed by those of us that run pure unix systems
DM> to toss the mail. Also the majority not all but the majority of
DM> systems hooked to the internet already use the bag format.
DM> Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry
DM> usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed.
OK - I give in - I have already setup my system for .bag messages. Too bad
there is not a current list of all areas. I had my bad message area working
overtime as my system setup 623 more areas then were listed in the pcusenet.txt
file. How many areas do you count. I have 2126 so far. Is this a good round
number <grin>. Anyway - later I will try to feed the .bag files straight across
to the other unix systems, but for now the simplest is the toss - which I am
familiar with.
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2501
To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/30/94 6:49p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jan3018:49, Jason Fesler of 1:203/7707.1 writes:
JF> Dave Sloan babbled profusely in a message to Dan Williamson:
DS> impressive. Too bad they don't have an OS/2 version. At
DS> least the DOS version works well under OS/2. If they ever
DS> get it into OS/2 then I will certainly register it.
JF> It would cost _someone_ several hundred bucks, as the author
JF> doesn't have the hardware or software to do it.. :-)
Tell him to send me the source code. It shouldn't take too long to figure out.
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2502
To: ALL Date: 01/30/94 7:15p
Subj: OS/2 and usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here is a rexx script to renumber the message files in usenet - you may need
this to keep up:
/* Renum */
infile = 'c:\usquish\squish.cfg'
outfile = 'c:\temp\squish.cfg'
cnt = 1
do until LINES(infile) = 0
line = LINEIN(infile)
if TRANSLATE(WORD(line, 1)) = 'ECHOAREA' then do
line.cnt = WORD(line, 3)
file = LINEOUT(outfile, 'EchoArea 'WORD(line, 2)' c:\nmsg\n'cnt'
'SUBWORD(line.iii, 4))
cnt = cnt + 1
end
else
file = LINEOUT(outfile, line)
end
file = LINEOUT(infile)
file = LINEOUT(outfile)
say 'There are 'cnt' message areas...'
do iii = cnt to 1 by -1
msgname = WORD(line.iii, 3)
'rename 'msgname'.* n'iii'.*'
end
'copy 'outfile' 'infile
exit
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2503
To: ALL Date: 01/30/94 7:16p
Subj: OS/2 and usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
And here is a script file that adds lines to your squish.cfg file for all those
areas that are not listed - just run squishp in out squash link > toss.txt
/* SquishUp */
/* Look for new messages and add to squish.cfg*/
/* This follows squishp in out squash link > toss.txt*/
debug = 0
squishcfg = 'c:\usquish\squish.cfg'
tossup = 'c:\usquish\toss.txt'
SquishTmp = 'c:\temp\squish.cfg'
SquishWrk = 'c:\temp\squish.$$$'
MsgTmp = 'c:\temp\msgarea.txt'
Messages = 'c:'
Messpath = 'nmsg'
net = 1
net.1 = '1:'
if debug then say 'SqUpdate ------>'
/* Count new areas found in the bad messages*/
NewAreas.0 = 0
/* Until all messages have been scanned*/
filecnt = 0
do until LINES(tossup) = 0
line = LINEIN(tossup)
/* Pull Area name out of control info*/
if WORD(line, 1) = 'Toss' then do
AreaCond = WORD(line, 4)
if debug then
say 'Condition = 'AreaCond
if AreaCond = '(Unknown' then do
/* And put in Area*/
Area = STRIP(WORD(line, 5), 'TRAILING', ')')
if debug then
say 'Area = 'Area
/* Which zone did this message come from - strip :-> from right*/
origin = STRIP(SUBSTR(WORD(line, 3), 2), 'TRAILING', ')')
if debug then
say 'origin = 'origin
netid = DELSTR(origin, POS(':', origin) + 1)
if debug then
say 'netid = 'netid
/* Make sure that we got this one from the same net*/
AreaId = Area' 'netid
/* OK did we run across this one before*/
found = 0
if NewAreas.0 > 0 then do
do x = 1 to NewAreas.0
if NewAreas.x = AreaId then do
found = x
leave
end
end
if found = 0 then do
NewAreas = NewAreas.0 + 1
NewAreas.NewAreas = AreaId
NewAreas.0 = NewAreas
filecnt = filecnt + 1
end
end
else do
NewAreas.1 = AreaId
NewAreas.0 = 1
/* Oh boy - a new area - copy .cfg to work area*/
'copy 'squishcfg' 'SquishTmp
if isthere(SquishWrk) then
'erase 'SquishWrk' /n'
filecnt = 1
end
/* Look to see if we are in that net*/
if found = 0 then do
netno = 0
do y = 1 to net
if POS(netid, net.y) > 0 then do
netno = y
leave
end
end
/* Found net so set up line for squish.cfg*/
if netno > 0 then do
/* Post for announcement*/
linemsg = 'Echo Area - 'area' added on 'Date()' 'Time()
if debug then
say linemsg
file = LINEOUT(MsgTmp, linemsg)
dotp = POS('.', origin)
if dotp > 0 then
origin = DELSTR(origin, dotp)
linemsg = 'Origin System = 'origin
file = LINEOUT(MsgTmp, linemsg)
file = LINEOUT(MsgTmp, ' ')
file = STREAM(MsgTmp, c, close)
Area = LEFT(STRIP(Area), 30)
/* gotta change this ]*/
SquishCln = 'EchoArea 'area' 'Messages'\'Messpath'\'LEFT(TRANSLATE(SUB
STR(Area, 1, 8),'_-----','.&\/%@'),9)' -$ -$m250 -$d7 'net.netno
/* And put it in the squish.cfg temp file*/
do while LINES(SquishTmp) > 0
line = LINEIN(SquishTmp)
if TRANSLATE(WORD(line, 1)) = 'ECHOAREA' then
if POS(net.netno, TRANSLATE(line)) > 0 then
leave
file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line)
end
do while LINES(SquishTmp) > 0
xline = TRANSLATE(line)
if POS(net.netno, xline) = 0 then do
file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, SquishCln)
leave
end
SqArea = WORD(line, 2)
if SqArea > Area then do
file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, SquishCln)
if debug then
say 'Added after area - 'SqArea
leave
end
file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line)
line = LINEIN(SquishTmp)
end
do while LINES(SquishTmp) > 0
file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line)
line = LINEIN(SquishTmp)
end
file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line)
/* Close files*/
file = STREAM(SquishTmp, c, close)
file = STREAM(SquishWrk, c, close)
'erase 'SquishTmp' /n'
'rename 'SquishWrk' 'FILESPEC('NAME',SquishTmp)
end
end
end
else
if AreaCond = '(Dupe' then do
MessNum = 'c:\nmsg\bad\'STRIP(WORD(line, 2), 'TRAILING', ':')'.msg'
if debug then
say 'Duplicate = 'MessNum
'erase 'MessNum
>> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 <<
>> Continued in next message <<
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2504
To: ALL Date: 01/30/94 7:16p
Subj: OS/2 and usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 <<
>> Continued from previous message <<
end
end
end
/* Update squish config file*/
if NewAreas.0 > 0 then do
'copy 'SquishTmp' 'squishcfg
'erase 'SquishTmp' /n'
end
if filecnt > 0 then do
LineMsg = filecnt' New Message Bases Found and Created.'
say LineMsg
end
Exit
/* Isthere - tests for the existance of a file*/
isthere: ARG wxy
if debug then say 'isthere ------>'
isthere = LINES(wxy)
zxy = STREAM(wxy, c, close)
return isthere
Hope this helps.....
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2505
To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 6:27p
Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Harry!
In a message to Tbbs Sysops.. <01/28/94> Harry Moyles wrote:
HM> Hello All..
HM> I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems tryi
HM> send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, When I call 361
HM> it will not take my mail. But it I commet out the aka 3615/51 it will sen
HM> mail? How have you guys gotten around that problem ?
HM> Thanks harry..
Harry I am not a tbbs/flame user but is flame your frontend or
mail tosser. If it is your front end it will not send it to an
address that is already onsite. 1:3615/51 only goes in your mail
processig software and never in the frontend software. You
receive mail from 1:3615/50 via aks 1:3615/51 amd all tossins is
to 1:3615/50 from your replies and is sent to 1:3615/50 thus if
you put an aka of 1:3615/51 in the frontend the front end sees it
as beeing to your address and will not transmit it out.
Just a thought.
Joe
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself.
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2506
To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 01/31/94 9:48a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Sean!
Sunday January 30 1994, Sean Peoples writes to Russell Naber:
SP> Russell Naber wrote in a message to Boyd Goodwin:
RN>> Test message to check links to pconnect.
SP> You failed, miserably...:-)
SP> Later...
SP> -+- timEd-B11
SP> + Origin: The .\ssylum * Cedar Hill, TX * Clinton/Barney in '96
SP> (1:124/7026)
Thanks for the response, let's me know two-way links are now okay.
Time to start responding to all those messages from all those echos courtesy of
Planet Connect. <g> (thanks Boyd)
Russell
--- GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2507
To: JEREMY HALL Date: 02/01/94 8:42p
Subj: Re: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running
> GB> RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This
> GB> suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be
> GB> appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue
> Gigo, in its docs, states that RA is not compliant with
> FSC-35 standards.
> Gigo is an alternative to Fred, works better, too.
> Configuration isn't as
> difficult and you only have to run one program rather than 3
> or 4.
> --- Renegade V07-17BETA
> * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX
> Murfreesboro (1:116/150)
Jeremy
I am trying to locate Gigo. Do you have it avaliable for download
Thanks Gill
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2508
To: HAROLD CARLSON Date: 02/01/94 8:44p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> * In a message originally to All, Gill Blue said:
> GB>Help !
> GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am
> GB>running
> GB>RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED.
> GB>This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help
> GB>would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue
> GB>--- FMail 0.94
> GB> * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205)
> GB>565-3394 (1:18/16)
>
> I was thinking about it. The Way i Was going to try was to
> use Gigo
> them have Fastecho toss it to an Jam Base. I feel that might
> work.
> will be playing with it later in the week I Hope.
> ---
> * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572)
Harold
Thanks for the info. Let me know how you make out. I am banging my head
against the wall here... Tnx Gill
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2509
To: BILL WOLF Date: 02/01/94 8:46p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> > Help !
> > Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ?
> > I am running
> > RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of
> > FRED. This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I
> > think.. any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill
> > Blue
> Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here,
> along with GEcho 1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for
> me, from the moment I installed the package. Plus Jason is
> very helpful in answering any questions.
> Bill
> --- GEcho 1.02+
> * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815)
> 942-2930 (1:2235/10)
Thanks Bill
I am trying to locate a copy. Several other sysops have also suggested Gigo.
Does it work with the zipped pcusenet*.## file or does it work with the bag
file. Any Info would be appreciated. I am trying to toss (some) of the
Newsgroups into the message are for reading. Tnx Gill
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICHAEL ERWIN Number: 2510
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/30/94 2:34p
Subj: Re: Lock with OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original To : Wallace Sheldon (1:3615/50)
Hello Wally,
Sure, You have to have the dongle. No way around that. But the problem seemed
to be that if you go into your printer object settings to the output page.
You will be able to open another settings notebook by selecting on the port
with the right mouse button. Select Open. You will notice that there is a
check box at the bottom labeled "SHARE ACCESS" select it. This will allow OS/2
to work correctly with the dongle.
Another thing, look at the card which has your printer port on it. You
should have all pins working. OS/2 2.1 likes it that way, but doesn't really
require it. v2.0 did require all pins. My LPT card has all pins working.
Yours is not if the last 4 to 7 pins is all connected together. which is the
case for most of the IDE,Floppy, Ser,Par & Game port cards. So flip the card
over and see. I don't know if this is the only differences.
Let me know
Michael Erwin
Team OS/2
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: The PRO-Line Network (1:262/33)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DEREK KOOPOWITZ Number: 2511
To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/31/94 10:13p
Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GS>THANK YOU :) I think Ed is going to do an update to make SkyMail ignore the
>anyway.....It was something that got overlooked since it never had happened
>before.
Where can I get a copy of Skymail?
■ QMPro 1.52 ■ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.
--- WM v3.11 [Beta]
* Origin: WILDUUCP! - InterNet/FTSC Gateway for WILDCAT! (1:161/123)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TYE HAMMERLE Number: 2512
To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/31/94 6:33a
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL>-> Speak for yourself. If they're gonna do something they oughta do it
JL>-> not half-assed. Make a little *.TIC to go with the file. If it's not
JL> Are you another one with a $1000 satelite and a $100 HD?
JL>:-)
Nope, $1200 HD and can't afford a satellite right now.
Tye 8-)
--- FMail 0.96g+
* Origin: Leak Path BBS, San Diego CA (619)584-0703/1713 (1:202/1002)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM JACOBS Number: 2513
To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/30/94 11:56p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled people at
> this point in time and I assume you are hoping that we will cough up
> additional funds each month for usenet messages - would it not be in
> your best interest to do some of this front end processing yourself
> before the info goes on the BIG BIRD.
Hmmmmm..... Might be a good idea here!!
Tim Jacobs -
Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: Virginia Data Exchange (1:271/270)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2514
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/31/94 5:03p
Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of Tu 25-Jan-94 20:38, Robert Hilgar wrote:
RH> Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can
RH> be read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't
RH> care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete the message!
Perhaps a better thing to delete would be your mail processor.
The only character that should technically not be allowed in a message is a
NULL simply because thats going to specify the end of the message.
If your mail tosser is going to crash because of an ascii character in a
message that may not "look" good, then your tosser is garbage.
---
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,VFC,(613)521-5680(1:163/165),Z19,521-0455
(1:163/139)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2515
To: BILL WOLF Date: 02/01/94 6:56a
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusene Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, along with GEcho
->1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for me, from the moment I installed
->the package. Plus Jason is very helpful in answering any questions.
Is this thru a DESQview environmanet by any chance?
Chuck
--- WM v3.10/91-0206
* Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2516
To: BILL ROPER Date: 02/01/94 7:00a
Subj: GEcho / WildMail / PC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill,
Last we talked about using GEcho to "preprocess" the mail received
via PC, I told you of a problem where GEcho deleted the outbound
bundles created by WildMail.
My fix here was to tell GEcho I had a different outbound directory
for mail bundles than the one I use for WildMail. GEcho and WildMail
are co-existing perfectly now thus speeding up the processing
of the mail received via PC!
Thanks, Chuck
--- WM v3.10/91-0206
* Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ED MARQUIS Number: 2517
To: GILL BLUE Date: 02/01/94 5:50a
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Help !
> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running
> RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This
> suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be
> appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue
I am. I use Gecho to toss but this batch file may work for you. It runs
under 4DOS and works real well for me... Not sure if this is the kind of
info you need but maybe it'll help someone else trying to automate the
tossing.
v:
cd\fred\spool\pcusenet
if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* pkunzip -o v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.*
if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* del v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.*
for %%m in (v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do v:\fred\fred-uf -c
(line continued) v:\fred\config.nws %%m c:\file\pkt\0000%@substr[%%m,27,4].pkt
^^
Edit this number to indicate the starting position of #### of the bag file
counting the full drive:path\filename (up to "news"). In other words in
this case it is 27 characters to get to the #### of the bag file in my
path: v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news####.bag (which is where my .BAG files
are located after being unarchived.
del *.bag
(now call your mail tosser)
Hope this helps!
Ed
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LYON Number: 2518
To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 02/01/94 1:22p
Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Do you have a PROPER list one can use for PC? Can one get a copy
-> -> of it?
->
-> not sure of the specifics for WIldcat but I have one that works for P
-> importing programs and it's PC.TXT available on my BBS at 701-775-114
-> - it took me a while to compile that one <G>
Any texted base file will work as long as the areas are defined
with the proper names. I received one with my tosser that had all the
areas defined (about 5000) and most had a description of the area
included. I'm using the one from PC now though because it only
includes the areas that are being sent.
What I was really looking for is a list that defines each area and
displays whether the area is "moderated" allows file attaches, what
kind, whether origin lines are allowed and things of that nature. In
other words, a rundown of the rules for each group. I forsee a lot of
PO'd people with sysops setting up groups improperly. Know where such
a list can be retrieved? I would hate to think I would have to make a
post in each group asking for the rules! Yuk! BTW, I would still like
to take a look at your list, is it Frq'able? Thanks!
--- WM v3.10/92-0069
* Origin: Outer Limits *4 Nodes* InterNet (1:2380/400.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2519
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 02/01/94 4:23p
Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi George,
30 Jan 94, 12:28, George Vandervort wrote to Thomas Beal:
GV> I got them via the PC Satellite feed...
They all used to come in one echo called Macafee. It doesn't appear to be
available thru PC.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 2520
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/01/94 3:33p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Sean Peoples:
RH> We are talking about hardware, not software. Ask Harold
I was speaking of both...I've had experience with several systems...I'm not
saying I know all there is to know about speech systems, but I've never
encountered that in my experience...
RH> Carlson, he has worked with these systems. (Look back a few
RH> messages to see his reply to me)
I'll take a look...
Later...
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: The .\ssylum * Cedar Hill, TX * Clinton/Barney in '96 (1:124/7026)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 2521
To: ALL Date: 02/01/94 7:54p
Subj: Dups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
what is with all the duplicate message in this echo and many others!
<<sig.imp
* WCE 1.5/2119 * Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself.
--- WM v3.10/92-0329
* Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2522
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/30/94 10:59p
Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH> of the "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can
RH> read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't care, if it's
RH> go choke my tosser, I delete the message!
I've got a few friends that are all blind. The high ascii doesn't do squat for
them unless they specifically tell it to. They pleasantly ignore the high
ascii, unless they are trying to manipulate the bastardized Microsoft user
interface that uses high-ascii to mark the various radio boxes..
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12d
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2523
To: JEREMY HALL Date: 01/30/94 11:02p
Subj: Re: Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jeremy Hall babbled profusely in a message to John Luong:
JH> happy with Gigo. The author, Jason Fesler is helpful and
JH> posts regularly in the UFGATE echo. Hope this helps... Oh
Psst, Jeremy - that check is the mail.. Don't tell anyone! =-)
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12d
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2524
To: JEREMY HALL Date: 01/31/94 9:50p
Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jeremy Hall babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
JF> solid usenet feed and running a stable gateway already, in _both_
JF> direction
JF>
JH> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's
JH> config file as to which groups I get?
Beats me, varies from software to software. I don't even run UNIX as an
administrator (only as a user). I find it to be a powerful, but primitive,
setup.
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12e+
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2525
To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 02/01/94 4:47p
Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dave Sloan babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler:
DS> impressive. Too bad they don't have an OS/2 version. At
DS> least the DOS version works well under OS/2. If they ever
DS> get it into OS/2 then I will certainly register it.
JF> It would cost _someone_ several hundred bucks, as the author
JF> doesn't have the hardware or software to do it.. :-)
DS> Tell him to send me the source code. It shouldn't take too
DS> long to figure out.
Sorry, I do not intend on handing the source code out to anyone. I devote too
much money _into_ the project, to give away my work like that. I only give out
source for porting purposes etc on stuff that I wrote as freeware.
When I become rich and famoush, and can afford that OS/2 box with all of the
development materials, I'll make the OS/2 version. Until then, it's either the
DOS box, or experiment with the OS/2 gateway progams (UUGATE comes to mind,
but I have not actually looked at it).
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-A12e+
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2526
To: ED MARQUIS Date: 02/02/94 9:43p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> v:
> cd\fred\spool\pcusenet
> if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* pkunzip -o
> v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.*
> if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* del
> v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.*
> for %%m in (v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do
> v:\fred\fred-uf -c
> (line continued) v:\fred\config.nws %%m
> c:\file\pkt\0000%@substr[%%m,27,4].pkt
>
> ^^
> Edit this number to indicate the starting position of ####
> of the bag file
> counting the full drive:path\filename (up to "news"). In
> other words in
> this case it is 27 characters to get to the #### of the bag
> file in my
> path: v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news####.bag (which is where
> my .BAG files
> are located after being unarchived.
> del *.bag
Ed
Thanks very much for the information. I tried that batch file that you sent
me. The only thing I changed was v: to c: I have all my paths for fred the
same as your example. I get an error when it executes the fred-fu command. It
gives me ERROR opening file c:\file\pkt\0000m,27,4].PKT for output.. Any other
suggestions.
I have my pcusenet.### IN THE C:\FILE\PCUSENET\ directory.
It unzips them and puts the bag files in the c:\fred\spool\pcusenet\
directory. Then I run into the error as I stated above.. Thanks for your
help... Gill
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROGER BABLER Number: 2527
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/01/94 8:35p
Subj: Errors in D Link transfer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--> Note:
Copied (from: PCSITES) by Roger Babler using timEd.
As of the past 3 to 4 weeks we have noticed a ever increasing amount of
errors in transmissons from the sattelite. Just have recived a new reciver
and no change (orignal one had a bad power cable connection) Many thanks the
speedy replacement "UPS RED" with a Sat. delivery. I serve as the Reciving
station for Dave Blum here and then we DL the Data at night to his BBS. To
day (Wen.) on the first pass Aprox half of the FIDO packets errored out the
on the second pass got aprox 4 more and ect. this is about how it has been
going. Questions are this
I have the dual feed on a C band system can I by changing the dip sw.
settings can the C-Band reciver be used for KU I know that the Cband dual
feed is not the greatest but would like to try ??
Do you send data down on bouth G-3 and G-1 C Band at the same time or is
G-1 only a backup ??
What is the transponder for KU and the Sattelite and polarity.
We are using a 12 Mhz. 286 machine With a 40 Meg hard drive acess time is
28 ms. do we need to upgrade or is this OK know the 40 meg is geting full on
busy days.
If there is a Known trouble at the up-link it would be nice if a small text
file be inserted in the UPLD.LST w/a approtate name such as Sys_dn.Txt so we
could be alerted of a trouble. Would save a few phone calls to PC Connect.
Also it seems that file transfer rates to get missed FIDO have been rather
slow only 600 cps.
ANY CLUES AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON !!
Thank You
Roger A. Babler
--- timEd/B7
* Origin: The Rural Fire Data BBS 608-938-4584 (1:11/600.3)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2528
To: ALL Date: 02/02/94 6:36a
Subj: pcfu Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Message originally:
From: John Morano
To : All
Date: 02-02-94
Area: "PCSITES"
* Forwarded by John Morano using RemoteAccess 2.01/Professional (250 node)
PCFU additions and fixes to date. Freq. PCFU on 1:391\1180
And I'm working on adding -f (filespec) support to the DUP command, See Jay
I do read my netmail..... and go Hmmmmmmm...... ;-)
John...
01-29-94 PCFU199D Installed support for IBM DOS 6.10
Installed support for IBM Dos 5.00
Fix bug that was leaving behind some temp files
that would cause a system crash on fire up.
(Thanks Joe Lyda)
Increased DUP check function speed by 200%
01-30-94 PCFU199E Got the Pre-Tic function working if the -p
switch is use with the -fTIC filespec a text
message called PTIC.MSG will be created in
the current INDEX directory with a listing
of the tic'ed files and the discriptions.
This is an appended file and will continue to
grow each time you use the -fTic function.
so do someting with is and then delete it. ;-)
02-01-94 PCFU199F Fixed bug in the RECEIVED.NOT and FREQTHEM.NOW
file creation routines. This will also fix the
problem with the RUNBBS.NOW file not being
created when the RECEIVED.NOT file was empty.
Added log file culling support for the PMOV.LOG
and UPLDMSTR.LOG.
Fixed a bug in the 12:xxAM<>12:xxPM file time
conversion routine (Thanks Dave Petrucci)
Added a routine to create a text file called
P-ALARM.MSG in the current INDEX directory if a file
is moved to the SAFE directory. I will be using this
for other things in the future.
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2529
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/02/94 1:38p
Subj: GEcho / WildMail / PC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Bill,
->
-> Last we talked about using GEcho to "preprocess" the mail received
-> via PC, I told you of a problem where GEcho deleted the outbound
-> bundles created by WildMail.
->
-> My fix here was to tell GEcho I had a different outbound directory
-> for mail bundles than the one I use for WildMail. GEcho and WildM
-> are co-existing perfectly now thus speeding up the processing
-> of the mail received via PC!
great.... glad you got it fixed... I knew it would be
something simple (g).... it always is, unfortunately,
and when I finally stumble on it, it has a tendency to
humble me (g)....
cheers..
Bill..
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WOLF Number: 2530
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/02/94 5:14p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusene Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>->Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, along with GEcho
>->1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for me, from the moment I installe
> d
>->the package. Plus Jason is very helpful in answering any questions.
> Is this thru a DESQview environmanet by any chance?
No. I haven't even been able to get PC to work under DV! <grin>. Just through
a novell enviroment.. It's on the server for novell lite.
Bill
--- GEcho/386 1.02+
* Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WOLF Number: 2531
To: GILL BLUE Date: 02/02/94 5:59p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GB> > > Help !
GB> > > Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ?
GB> > Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here,
GB> I am trying to locate a copy. Several other sysops have
GB>also suggested Gigo. Does it work with the zipped
GB>pcusenet*.## file or does it work with the bag file. Any Info
You need to manually, unzip the pcusenet files, and then run GIGO. Atleast
that's what I'm doing over here. I beleive that a version of GIGO was just
hatched over the sdn.
You can also try getting it directly from Jason's system. 1:203/7707. File
request 'GIGO'.
Hope this helps!
Take Care,
Bill
--- GEcho/386 1.02+
* Origin: UTI - Always on tap! 21.6k Dual (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2532
To: ALL Date: 01/23/94 4:41p
Subj: Mail Processing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have any suggestions on a batch file or is there a program
out there to do my mail processing automatically for me?
For example: If the planet connect computer exits to a mail processing
batch file at a specific time each day, and does this.....
C:
CD C:\FD\INBOUND
COPY Y:\SKY\FILES\0000ffff.fr*
CD C:\FD\UTILS
TOSSRBBS
It will pick up Friday's mail, and toss it, yet, how about the packets
that are marked *.FRA, *.FRB, etc.? The Mail Tosser doesn't acknowledge
that they even exist. Also, how can I tell the system to only copy over
and process mail for that specific day, and ignore the resending of the
previous day's mail?
Thanks in advance.
--jah
... The Twilight Zone BBS * ASP HUB BBS #3 * MidCentral USA
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.01
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2533
To: PAUL MALLETT Date: 01/26/94 9:26p
Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH>> Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to
JH>> sort through also.
PM> Well, I suppose it depends on your perspective. Personally,
PM> I'd be happy if every file that came down the pipe was for
PM> OS/2. ;> The Fernwood OS/2 filenet areas are one of the main
PM> reasons I got involved with Planet Connect in the first place.
PM> As we're finding out in this area, everyone is interested in
PM> this thing for different reasons. It makes for some excited and
PM> energetic sysops.
Yes, that is quite understandable. But, for those of us who are
die-hard DOS fans, and don't want to switch to OS/2 or carry OS/2 files
on our systems, is there a way to filter these out without uncompressing
them and looking at them?
--jah
... Precinct Toilet Stolen ... Police have Nothing to Go On.
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.01
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2534
To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/31/94 6:08p
Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GV> Look in these file areas...
GV> 1. UTILNET2
GV> SCANV111.ZIP
GV> CLEAN111.ZIP
GV> VSH111.ZIP
They must have came in when my receiver died. :-( Thanks for the reply
--- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin
* Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN COOK Number: 2535
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/01/94 3:02p
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FH> I'm simply guessing that the number of messages
FH> would be proportional to the number of nodes that
FH> are accessible to the network.
Internet is not Usenet and Usenet is not Internet. The number of internet
nodes is not directly related to the amount of Usenet traffic. Also, a good
number of those Fidonet nodes are in other zones a good portion of whose
echomail traffic never sees the North American backbone. Internet users also
tend to use E-mail and mailing lists more than Fidonetters, reducing news group
traffic at least a tad. You might be amazed at how much of the Usenet traffic
consists of useless UUENCODEd .GIFs and the like. You can imagine what traffic
would be like if Fidonet UUENCODEd the Filebone and sent it out over a few
echos. Traffic is more like Usenet 15 : Fidonet 1 though, isn't it?
- Dan
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2536
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/02/94 4:51a
Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<=> Robert Hilgar Was Heard Saying This To Boyd Goodin:
RH>but why don't you get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk
RH>and Weather files that I'm sure the _majority_ here don't
I say get rid of the USEnet also...........don't hate me.
RH>( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( )
Me too:+)
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2537
To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 02/02/94 8:01a
Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris Wiesner wrote in a message to Glenn Caleval:
> Is WGA on the bird? I seem to recall seeing a WGAMail file at some
> point. If it is that would be a real bonus to a couple of my users
> who are serious genealogical hobbiests.
CW> Hi Glenn,
CW> every now and then I see WGAMAIL.ZIP come in via PC.
CW> However, I'm not sure yet how often and how reliable the
CW> pre-PC feed is. (440:121/99?) We'll have to wait till Boyd
CW> lets us know the official story. I at one point converted
CW> over, but then nothing came in for a while. Now it's here
CW> again.
CW> Boyd, what's the scoop on WGA? Is it going to come in daily,
CW> weekly,,, or what? WGA is my last landline network...I want
CW> to dump it asap!
I uplink the wgamail, and i wait for the landline site to drop off
mail here to uplink it. he has been having a bit of trouble the last
couple of weeks, getting the AKA zone number to work properly. i will
probally go over to his house this weekend and help set squish up for
him. once thats done, we should have nightly uplinks of any new
wgamail. for now, i have to process whatever he give me in the
non-secure mode of squish, manually. because he has an incorrect node
number in the from packet. we are still working the kinks out...
Hope this helps...
---
* Origin: Galaxy (1:170/10011)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2538
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/02/94 9:37a
Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Chris Wiesner:
> weekly,,, or what? WGA is my last landline network...I want to
> dump it asap!
GC> If it gets on the bird reliably I (well, my system) will
GC> join immediately :-)
O yea, btw, WGA changed their zone address in the last couple of weeks
to 440:
Still causing a few problems with "other" net numbers showing up...
Its fixed here...
---
* Origin: GALAXY (1:170/10011)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2539
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/03/94 1:42p
Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Al!
Friday January 28 1994, Al Hays writes to All:
AH> Pursuant to the "blank" line problem that was discovered in UPLD.LST, a
AH> fixed version of UPCHECK is immediately available as UPCHK05B.ZIP, 13k,
AH> MagicName: UPCHECK.
AH> UPCHECK ver .05ß
AH> Checks a list of directories contained in UPCHECK.CFG for files listed
AH> in a filelist. This is a very simple program. If you are capable of
AH> running a Planet Connect system, you should have no problem figuring out
AH> how to use UPCHECK.
AH> Regards,
AH> Al
AH> -+- DB 1.53/002765
AH> + Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
Al, How about adding code to check PCUtils program's dupe index file, i.e. have
upcheck check files in a inbound directory against PCUtil's idx-dup file?
This way upcheck can check all files against the upld.lst like you have
implemented, but also check files not found against the dupe list from
PCUtil's!
This way a sysop could upon errorlevel exit from you program could note the
files not found error, setup a flag file and then go toss the stuff (which
involves moving the files out of the inbound directory), and restart ptccmain
again later after tossing to get those missing files, but this time when
exiting and calling upcheck, the other previously found files would no longer
be there in the inbound directory and would show up as files not found because
they were tossed.
If upcheck checked PCUtil's dupe index then you would know that the file has
previously been found and recieved and tossed. Thereby allowing faster tossing
of files to your system, and later you can go get those missing files again
from the dish.
I'm still trying to think this one out, but you would want to make this a
option, as for now I am cycling back into ptccmain to get those missing files,
but it involves another 3 to 4 hour downtime going to get them.
For those who multi-task, they could toss the files and meanwhile run another
batch to relink to the disk to get the missing files.
Dupes found would of course be deleted by PCUtil.
Of course if would be nice if ptccmain would allow specifying either all files
to get, or just certain file names then exit. This could be specified to
ptccmain with a switch command.
What do you think?
Russell
--- GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICHAEL ERWIN Number: 2540
To: ROGER BABLER Date: 02/03/94 4:20p
Subj: Errors in D Link transfer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
We had the same problems, we were using a 386sx-16 2mb, 16k cache.
I upgraded it to a 386sx33 2mb, 16kcache. Works like a charm now.
Michael Erwin
TEAM OS/2
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: The PRO-Line Network (1:262/33)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ERIC FISHER Number: 2541
To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 02/03/94 12:55a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sean Peoples wrote in a message to Russell Naber:
RN> Thanks for the response, let's me know two-way links are now
RN> okay.
SP> Yep, that they are...
RN> Time to start responding to all those messages from all
RN> those echos courtesy of Planet Connect. <g> (thanks Boyd)
SP> Hehe..No doubt...I'm tied in by land-line, but who knows,
SP> maybe someday I'll have a dish...:-)
You don't have to be, Sean. 124/2106 is collecting the full feed and is
available to anyone in Net124 who wants to sample satellite mail.
=Eric
--- timEd/2-B11
* Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2542
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/04/94 11:27p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Jan 28, Guy VanDell of 1:116/80 wrote to Tom Haavisto:
GV> GMD works on netmail right?
Wrong. It only checks the integrity of the packet comtaining them.
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2543
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/04/94 11:28p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Jan 31, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to Dave Petrucci:
AH> Pardon me, Dave, but the *ONLY* Policy document in force in
AH> FidoNet is POLICY4 ... period.
And the Gateway Policy ... period.
AH> *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail
AH> due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does
AH> so is in clear violation of POLICY4.
Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per P4, mail
can only be routed by agreement.
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2544
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/04/94 11:32p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Jan 27, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to Tom Haavisto:
GC> Perhaps you should *carefully* read the actual specs as they have
GC> been promulgated by the FTSC. The vast majority of stuff that GMD
GC> can be configured to delete is totally *within* spec and no one
GC> has any business deleting it. In fact, I think there are only two
GC> configurable options in GMD that actually have anything to do
GC> with the formal specs at all.
Name the two then I'll name a few others to show some that you missed.
GC> The specs also *explictly* provide that software
GC> should be able to cope with unlimited msg size.
"Explictly"? Please provide a quote.
TH> When a message has multiple origin lines, this tells
TH> me that something bad happened to it.
GC> Have you ever wondered how what you think are "grunged" msgs
GC> managed to make it through the many systems enroute to your
GC> system without breaking anyone elses software?
Messages with multiple origin lines are generally dupes, not grunged.
GC> So the software used on the *end* node should be capable of
GC> modifying, or deleting the msgs that offend that given end node.
GC> Those who are supposed to MOVE the MAIL have no business deleting
GC> that which they have agreed to move.
I agree fully. The Backbone has requested that "strange" characters not be
used in the control fields.
GC> This hobby is about communicating, not deleting communication.
You can't have effective communications when the noise level gets too high.
GC> If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its
GC> journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of
GC> that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x
That's a very common, but incorrect, statement. Does your mail processor
delete dupes? How does it identify a message as a dupe? Does it use ANY
method other than the seen-bys? Where in the specs is this method defined?
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2545
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/04/94 11:44p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Jan 30, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to Dave Petrucci:
GC> I am not unsympathetic to people who run software that cannot
GC> cope with various things like large masgs or high ascii. But
GC> there are two simple facts: 1) such people are in a tiny minority
GC> position and 2) there are relatively trivial ways for them to
GC> cope with the problem on *their*own* system without imposing
GC> their limitations on everyone else.
"Tiny minority". Most of the mail processors I'm familiar with will not handle
a message of unlimited size. Will yours?
GC> The reason the specs were written as open and not constrictive
GC> was to allow inovation while maintaining basic compatibility.
That might be correct with respect to FTS-0001 but it certainly doesn't apply
to FTS-0004. FTS-0004 wasn't written to be a spec at all. It was taken from
the ConfMail doc's. As a standard it's a joke.
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2546
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/04/94 11:53p
Subj: Gmd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Feb 03, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to Robert Hilgar:
AH> That's fine and dandy ... but since high ASCII codes are in
AH> complete compliance with FTS, ...
Characters with the "hi bit" (the 8th bit) aren't ASCII at all. If you
disagree then I challenge you to send me a copy of the ASCII spec that says so.
My copy of the spec lists only 7 bit characters.
So, if you are truly interested in compliance with specs then you should stop
using nonstandard terms like "high ASCII".
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2547
To: DEREK KOOPOWITZ Date: 02/02/94 5:55p
Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Derek Koopowitz wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer:
GS>THANK YOU :) I think Ed is going to do an update to make SkyMail ignore the
>anyway.....It was something that got overlooked since it never had happened
>before.
DK> Where can I get a copy of Skymail?
It was sent over the bird but if you werent around then you can get it here as
SKYMAIL.ZIP
greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2548
To: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Date: 01/30/94 4:13a
Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <28 Jan 94 14:04:24>, bryan@edgar.mn.org (1:282/31) writes:
bA>The majority of subscribers are Fidonet people because that's what is
bA>currently the only thing being fed reliably. Usenet is over 10 times
bA>the size of Fidonet and I bet that if Planet Connect came up with a
bA>receiver that could be connected to a unix system, once usenet is being
bA>fed reliably, they'll eventually have alot more usenet subscribers than
bA>Fidonet subscribers.
I'm new at this, so my assumptions could be way out of line....
If Usenet access is available to Internet nodes, then Usenet would be more than
*1000* times greater than Fidonet rather than only 10 times. According to The
Online User's Encyclopedia on page 100, the size of each is as follows:
Network Size
Internet 2,000,000
FidoNet 22,000
RIME 1,200
ILINK 250
FrEdMail 200
BITNET 3,500
OneNet 200
SmartNet 250
InfoLink 5
WWIVNet 4,000
UUCP 15,000
I'm simply guessing that the number of messages would be proportional to the
number of nodes that are accessible to the network.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRIAN DHATT Number: 2549
To: PAUL MALLETT Date: 01/24/94 8:47p
Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
22 Jan 94 15:25, Paul Mallett wrote to Tim Jacobs:
PM> This is a fault/feature of OS/2, not of the Planet Connect
PM> software. OS/2 does not allow for direct access to hardware
PM> dongles. It's certainly conveivable that IBM could change that,
PM> but in the mean time there is nothing that can be done, except
PM> remove the dongle check. :>
Supposedly, the Senteniel dongles have support for OS/2. I think they are by
Rainbow Technologies. If you want the number, let me know and I'll look it up.
--- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218
* Origin: Dhatt's Point (1:3648/2.5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL OXNER Number: 2550
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/30/94 4:02p
Subj: footprint Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can you tell me how far south the satellite footprint reaches? Central
America? South America? Are BBS's in those areas able to subscribe?
bill
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: ASIAN_LINK international echo - Spanning the BBS World (1:388/4)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 2551
To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/31/94 5:04p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, Gill Blue said:
GB>Help !
GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am
GB>running
GB>RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED.
GB>This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help
GB>would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue
GB>--- FMail 0.94
GB> * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205)
GB>565-3394 (1:18/16)
I was thinking about it. The Way i Was going to try was to use Gigo
them have Fastecho toss it to an Jam Base. I feel that might work.
will be playing with it later in the week I Hope.
---
* Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2552
To: JEREMY HALL Date: 02/01/94 4:56p
Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jeremy Hall wrote:
JH> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's
JH> config file as to which groups I get?
Try in /usr/lib/news ....... the file is 'active'.
--- timEd-B10
* Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2553
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/01/94 7:06p
Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: QWK's
BY: Robert Hilgar to Boyd Goodin on Mon Jan 31 1994 08:27 am
> Everyone here will probably want to kill me for saying it, but why don't you
> get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk and Weather files that I'm sure the
> _majority_ here don't use. Then we would be able to get more cycles per day
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wouldn't agree with this. If I wanted nothing but a full Usenet
feed, I would have signed up with the PageSat system, it was
BECAUSE Planet Connect has such a variety, and a willingness to
send up everything they could get their hand on, that sold me on
this system!
I personally LOVE all this stuff pooring into my drives. I don't
mind doing a "ECHO Y|DEL *.*" now and then to clean it off... sure
beats calling long distance for it!!!!!!
> (and maybe a "FULL Usenet feed) until there is a faster way to downlink to u
> Receiving all the Fido and Usenet stuff is more of a priority than the other
> things anyway.
>
> ( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( )
This isn't hate mail... just think of it as... "to let you know
how I feel mail" <grin>
---
* Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2554
To: DEAN WEST Date: 01/31/94 7:23p
Subj: RE: PC QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> As I to am looking into setting up a Sat downlink, where can someone
> get a copy of the Canadian price list. Would rather buy Canadian to
> avoid all the hassle of getting it over the border.
Look in the nodelist for David E. Smith at Westonia Computers in Weston,
Ontario. I can't recall his node address,,,, something like 250/???
Regards
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE LAFRENIERE Number: 2555
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/02/94 8:04p
Subj: Network list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd,
I understand that you do not publish a list of networks that are
using Planet Connect to distribute their mail. I find that hard to
believe, since such a list would only promote the futhur use of the
system to new nets and sysops. A list of current networks published once
a week here in this conference would be of great help. As an RC for
two of the nets that currently use the system I find that such a list
would be benificial to me as well.
I am told by the local dish owner that he can not get such a
list either. That surprises me.
George
--- WM v2.06/92-0050
* Origin: BBS, Leicester MASS (508) 892-8857 (1:322/605)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Number: 2556
To: ALL Date: 02/04/94 7:09a
Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From: bryan@edgar.mn.org (Bryan Halvorson)
Newsgroups: tdkt-fido.planet-connect
Subject: How In The World...
Organization: Electronics 101. Apple Valley, MN
Reply-To: bryan@edgar.mn.org
In article <760253605.AA07498@tdkt.mn.org>,
Sean Peoples <Sean.Peoples@f7026.n124.z1.tdkt.mn.org> wrote:
> following up a message from Jason Fesler to Jeremy Hall:
>
> JH> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's
> JH> config file as to which groups I get?
>
> /usr/uucp/admin
>
> I think...
>
> The filename should be 'active'
If the system is running c-news look for
/usr/lib/news/active
or
/usr/local/lib/news/active
If it's running INN try
/usr/local/news/newsgroups
--
Bryan Halvorson bryan@edgar.mn.org
N0BUU bryan@n0buu.ampr.org
---
* Origin: The Dark Knight's Table: Free Public Access News/Email (1:282/31)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 2557
To: MICHAEL ERWIN Date: 02/05/94 2:32a
Subj: Lock with OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sunday January 30 1994, Michael Erwin writes to Wallace Sheldon:
Hello Michael!
ME> Sure, You have to have the dongle. No way around that. But the problem
ME> seemed to be that if you go into your printer object settings to the
ME> output page. You will be able to open another settings notebook by
ME> selecting on the port with the right mouse button. Select Open. You will
ME> notice that there is a check box at the bottom labeled "SHARE ACCESS"
ME> select it. This will allow OS/2 to work correctly with the dongle.
ME> Another thing, look at the card which has your printer port on it. You
ME> should have all pins working. OS/2 2.1 likes it that way, but doesn't
ME> really require it. v2.0 did require all pins. My LPT card has all pins
ME> working. Yours is not if the last 4 to 7 pins is all connected together.
ME> which is the case for most of the IDE,Floppy, Ser,Par & Game port cards.
ME> So flip the card over and see. I don't know if this is the only
ME> differences.
I set it all up and the silly pccmain software just exited immediately upon
execution closing the window behind it..i played with it for a bunch of hours
and figered something was screwy..what are you session settings? I couldnt do
it. :(
Cheers, Ken
...And today will go down in history as Saturday February 05 1994
--- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 2558
To: GILL BLUE Date: 02/03/94 3:10p
Subj: Remote Access and Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GB> I am trying to locate Gigo. Do you have it avaliable for download
GB> Thanks Gill
Got it here Gill...come on in and get it, you have the numbers...<G>
Emmett
MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2559
To: ALL Date: 02/05/94 12:32p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
Thanks...
...............................................................
. Mark Krieg . YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 .
. Cool Baby BBS . FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| .
. York, Pa USA . Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | .
. 717-751-0855 . RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] .
...............................................oOO..(__)..OOo..
---
* Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LYON Number: 2560
To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/07/94 4:31a
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> JL>-> Nope, $1200 HD and can't afford a satellite right now.
->
-> JL> Yer sure doin' a lot of screaming for someone that doesn't even
-> JL> have the service.
->
-> Didn't realize having the service was a requirement for voicing an op
Saying their operation is "half-assed" sounded a little more like
screaming than an opinion to be, but opinions are like assholes,
everyone has one :)
-> Actually I haven't screamed at all, yet. :) Our NET is probably goi
-> getting hooked up to PC pretty soon. I may be moving in the next year
-> an area where PC might be the best alternative. I'd sure like to see
-> with PC run smooth and no little burps introduced by someone or someo
-> either end trying to do everyone a 'favor'. While I appreciate the th
-> would be much better if the actions were completely carried out with
-> to how files are processed on the end users systems, i.e. my system a
-> yours.
There are always little burps....in anything, you should know that by
now. PC has been here only months and it has come a long way and will
get nothing but better. There hasn't been a week where I haven't had
to write a new batch file or change a config to compensate for
something new. Yes it's a pain, but still worth it. Someday PC
will be all setup to everyones satisfaction. PC is something totally
new and offering so many things, it's gonna take patience and time
to work everything out.....not yelling.
I've noticed since all the dummies yelled about the 30 megs of games
that Boyd was kind enough to just throw in, nothing else has came
down like that again. I can't believe that someone would hook a
computer up to a satelite that transmits at 19000 24 hrs a day and
use a 40 meg HD, then have the gonades to yell his drive filled up!
If you can't play with the big boys...you should take your marbles
and go home.....That's MY Opinion...and not necessarily directed at
you.
I bought PC for myself and my system and I'm taking/processing
everything that comes down the pike! A nice perk was I'm now
feeding my (Fido) Net and have reduced thier cost by about 80%.
I haven't heard one bitch from them.
-> I'd guess, and I could be wrong, that most systems use a file
-> that utilizes *.TIC's to toss them to the right place. Nothing is mor
-> aggravating than getting files without *.TIC's and having to either p
-> them manually or look at each to see what it is then delete it. Grant
-> are ways around this with little batch files and DIZ processors but t
-> unecessarily to the already complex stuff we have to do.
Writing batch files has never been too complex...actually, it's
kinda fun and satisfying to make everything work!
-> To add insult
-> injury the SDN weenies are distributing .ARJ files with .SDN extensio
-> find it hard to believe they actually sat down and thought that up. B
-> my system when I get twenty files ticked in and ALLFIX doesn't know w
-> with them. We get a semi standard way of doing business and some grou
-> to go off on their own.......wellp you got me there, ranting on about
-> nothing.. but I feel better now... :) Now I gotta figure out how to
-> processing the *.SDN files. Got any ideas, other than DEL *.SDN ?
Allfix doesn't sound like an apprapo name then does it? :)
Why would you want to change the SDN files? Add bbs comments?
Take AV stamps out? ???
--- WM v3.10/92-0069
* Origin: Outer Limits *4 Nodes* InterNet (1:2380/400.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 2561
To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/02/94 4:33a
Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello Boyd!
->
-> Everyone here will probably want to kill me for saying it, but why do
-> get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk and Weather files that I'm s
-> _majority_ here don't use. Then we would be able to get more cycles p
-> (and maybe a "FULL Usenet feed) until there is a faster way to downli
-> Receiving all the Fido and Usenet stuff is more of a priority than th
-> things anyway.
->
-> ( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( )
->
-> Cheers,
-> Robert
Maybe other people think the other stuff is junk and want the QWK
packets only, ever think about that?
Fred
--- WM v3.10/93-0786
* Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2562
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/07/94 1:55a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Feb 06, Floyd Drennon of 1:375/14 wrote to John Souvestre:
JS> And the Gateway Policy ... period.
FD> When was that ratified as required by P4?
I don't know, Floyd. It was before my time. I understand that the IC does
consider it "in effect".
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2563
To: MIKE LABBE Date: 02/06/94 6:52a
Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Mike Labbe to Robert Hilgar it was said:
ML> Hell, where did I put that shotgun? <smile> The upcoming
ML> Usenet service may be a priority for you, but for me Fido
ML> and RIME are the priorities and the QWK networks are a very
ML> valuable and money saving proposition. (i use Pagesat for
ML> Usenet news) The little bandwidth that they use is a good
ML> investment. The "majority" probably uses Fido, since it was
ML> their first offering.
With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail processor handle
these? I honestly do not know... I have always associated such files
extentions with offline readers... Pardon my ignorance in this matter!
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2564
To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/06/94 2:44p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> unecessarily to the already complex stuff we have to do. To add insu
-> injury the SDN weenies are distributing .ARJ files with .SDN extensio
-> find it hard to believe they actually sat down and thought that up. B
-> my system when I get twenty files ticked in and ALLFIX doesn't know w
-> with them. We get a semi standard way of doing business and some grou
-> to go off on their own.......wellp you got me there, ranting on about
-> nothing.. but I feel better now... :) Now I gotta figure out how to
-> processing the *.SDN files. Got any ideas, other than DEL *.SDN ?
if you don't have a severe attitude problem, your messages
certainly do come off that way.....
as for the SDN weenies distributing .ARJ files with .SDN
extension, that has been going on for quite some time...
and prior to that those SDN weenies were distributing .PAK
files with .SDN extension.....
if you would take the trouble to find out if there might be
a reason for this before flying off at the mouth, responses
would probably not contain the vitriol so evident in your messages...
and yes, I do have an idean other than DEL .SDN...
how about FORMAT C:
as a less destructive alternative, you might take a quick
course on manners....
cheers....
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICHAEL ERWIN Number: 2565
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 02/05/94 3:08p
Subj: RUNNING ON OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wallace,
Open the port object and set SHARED ACCESS to On.
This worked for me, but also beware that OS/2 2.0 likes all the LPT lines to
be there. OS/2 2.1GA likes that they be there also but doesn't require them.
Some of the cheaper LPT cards shorts pins 18-25 on the DB-25 & some of the
lower grade LPT cables do the same thing.
If you still have problems contact me.
.\\ichael
OS/2 Accredited
TEAM OS/2
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: The PRO-Line Network (1:262/33)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 2566
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 5:52a
Subj: Charge Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a hub fee
-> for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
It all depends on how many nodes are picking up mail from us. But the cost is
split even between all nodes..
Ralph
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files,8 Gig (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2567
To: JASON FESLER Date: 02/07/94 7:17p
Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar:
JF> I've got a few friends that are all blind. The high ascii
JF> doesn't do squat for them unless they specifically tell it
JF> to. They pleasantly ignore the high ascii, unless they are
Hi Jason. That may be true for many blind users, but I don't think all
adaptive equipment is the same in terms of capabilities, and part- icularly so
if they're having to use older equipment. Kind of the same concept as that not
all computers are capable of displaying ANSI codes, most notably older non-DOS
computers and/or operating systems. Kind of boils down to the effect of trying
to comply with the least common denominator to allow the majority of systems
and users to participate & interact within Cyberspace.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- timEd/2-B11
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2568
To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 02/07/94 6:41a
Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RN> Al, How about adding code to check PCUtils program's dupe
RN> index file, i.e. have
RN> upcheck check files in a inbound directory against PCUtil's
RN> idx-dup file?
Russell, From the sound of your message you missed the announcement about PCFU
the replacement program for PCUtils, you can freq it here using the magic name
PCFU, I think you will be pleasently surprised what it will do.
John
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2569
To: ALL Date: 02/07/94 6:00p
Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came in, and I
vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but can't remember exactly how
late.
Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on time...
Is this what we call progress? <-grin->
-=<-Katherine->=-
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Texas (1:3802/221)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2570
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 9:31p
Subj: GMD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Characters with the "hi bit" (the 8th bit) aren't ASCII at all. If
> you disagree then I challenge you to send me a copy of the ASCII
> spec that says so. My copy of the spec lists only 7 bit characters.
You are correct in this regard. The 'standard' ASCII set goes from 0-127
decimal. Anything above 127 is considered 'block graphic' or 'special'
character set. It is my undertsanding, though, that Fido permits the special
character set, but is not encouraged because some technologies do not support
these.. I'm sure that a quick look in P4 will set things right.
Regards
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2571
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 11:47a
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mark Krieg writes:
MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging
MK> as a hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
We plan on switching; once switched, and after the hardware is paid off (should
take about 3 months, at $2/mo per node), we plan on dropping the cost to fifty
cents a month.
It's nice to be in a large net, with a _working CRP.. :-)
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-g1+
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JASON FESLER Number: 2572
To: ALL Date: 02/07/94 11:46a
Subj: GIGO (Was: Remote Access and Pcusenet) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bill Wolf writes:
BW> But I don't know how well GIGO works under DV, as I'm not
BW> running it here.. This Lan system does work much better
BW> than it probably would of under Desqview.
There is a support forum available for GIGO; contact me for details. There are
_several_ people running DV and GIGO at the same time. One thing to make sure
is that you are giving GIGO the EMS it wants, in your DV setup. Leaving the
field blank is not good enough. :-)
Jason Fesler
jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com
--- timEd-g1+
* Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HARRY MOYLES Number: 2573
To: TBBS SYSOPS Date: 02/06/94 2:05p
Subj: PIMP AND PC INTERNET Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to know who is using pimp and pc internet files. How hard was it
to set up? Who do you have to talk to, to get a internet name? Do you get a
internet name for the bbs and one for your self?
Is Planet Connect going to accept internet uploads soon? I heard that pc was
going to charge 20.00 amonth extra for internet stuff any truth to it? Will
they issue names or do I have to go to a gate??
Thanks harry..
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Evans BBS,6 gigs,16 cdroms,1 Satellite Dish,616-754-6180 (1:228/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 2574
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 8:02a
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK>I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
>hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
MK>Thanks...
MK>...............................................................
>. Mark Krieg . YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 .
>. Cool Baby BBS . FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| .
>. York, Pa USA . Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | .
>. 717-751-0855 . RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] .
>...............................................oOO..(__)..OOo..
>---
> * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612)
$5.00 a month for small/normal size net. for big net $2.50 a month per
downlink for echos
---
■ QMPro 1.52 ■ SOMETIMES I WAKE UP GROUCHY, SOMETIMES I LET HER SLEEP
--- WM v3.10/93-0334
* Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2575
To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 02/07/94 2:26p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups
> that Planet Connect caries?
I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself with
absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get one, let me know so
I can come get a copy, okay?
__
\/ dj
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2576
To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 02/07/94 5:03p
Subj: SATELLITE DISH/PLANNET CONNECT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tracy!
Sunday January 23 1994 18:33, Tracy Mickley wrote to David Unfried:
TM> ask for Boyd or Jerry since then if he answers. PC's biggest issue with
TM> the article was that they all had to go out and buy new crayons for
TM> the installation doc's. <chuckle>
I know Jim (the person in our net with the dish) was grumping for days. :-)
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2577
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 02/07/94 5:05p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Dave!
Sunday January 23 1994 16:25, Dave Petrucci wrote to David Unfried:
DP> David,
DP> If you have any questions go ahead and ask.
Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a return path be
established has been one of my questions.... I guess it is a lot of other
peoples.
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2578
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 5:16p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark!
Saturday February 05 1994 12:32, Mark Krieg wrote to All:
MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
Our net charges a flat $5 a month unlimited traffic payable quarterly.
This amount was established based on landline (phone) charges a few years ago.
Eventually, we hope to reduce the fee once the investment for the dish is paid
off.
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2579
To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/07/94 5:24p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tye!
Friday February 04 1994 14:42, Tye Hammerle wrote to John Lyon:
TH> system when I get twenty files ticked in and ALLFIX doesn't know what to
TH> do with them.
Allfix doesn't know how to do much of anything other than break downlink
systems. Every new "beta" release amazes me with what they do to annoy anyone
running the original TICK and RAID, and other third party authors are forced to
release a work-around. The latest release adds a verb which completely breaks
RAID. The politest thing I can say about Allfix is "used programmer food".
TH> We get a semi standard way of doing business and some group
TH> decides to go off on their own.......wellp you got me there, ranting on
SDN has been around a lot longer than Planet Connect, and most sysops for that
fact. They were distributed using the .SDN and .SDA extensions when I joined
Fidonet and applied for a SDN node number three years ago.
TH> about nothing.. but I feel better now... :) Now I gotta figure out how
TH> to automate processing the *.SDN files. Got any ideas, other than DEL
TH> *.SDN ?
I have two programs for my BBS that will not only import the DIZ descriptions,
but also convert back to the standard format. I have seen these utilities for
other BBS systems.
I agree that the SDA and SDN extensions are inconvenient, but I have always
found the network to contain worthwhile releases and a good resource for myself
and my users. I'm glad they are available on Planet Connect.
As for missing tic files, that's a problem caysed by PC or their source, not
SDN. When I polled Las Vegas for these files I never missed a TIC.
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2580
To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/07/94 5:37p
Subj: New Here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tye!
Friday February 04 1994 18:18, Tye Hammerle wrote to John Hrusovszky:
TH> Sure is, you should be able to run ALLFIX or another file processor (if
TH> one exists ;)
There are, and better ones too, including free and reliable programs RAID and
TICK.
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2581
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/07/94 8:03p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello Dave!
Hello Dave! <gryn>
Monday February 7 1994 17:05, David Unfried wrote to Dave Petrucci:
> Sunday January 23 1994 16:25, Dave Petrucci wrote to David Unfried:
> DP> David,
> DP> If you have any questions go ahead and ask.
> Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a
> return path be established has been one of my questions.... I
> guess it is a lot of other peoples.
And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the feed. I have heard
rumblings about Planet Connect "censoring" the UseNet traffic in the sysop
echos of three different networks!
__
\/ dj
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2582
To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 02/07/94 7:08p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Paul Cormier wrote in a message to All:
PC> Hi,
PC> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet
PC> newsgroups that Planet Connect caries?
i think that pcusenet.txt is that list.
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2583
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 4:51a
Subj: Fidonet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mark,
I went with flat rate of $10.00/mo but there are none of the files
included with that, just mail.
* Gary *
---
* RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2584
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/07/94 2:53a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Al!
Saturday February 05 1994 22:18, Al Hays wrote to John Souvestre:
>> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per P4,
>> mail can only be routed by agreement.
AH> That statement shows a total lack of forethought, John. An echomail Hub,
AH> by definition, has agreed to route mail.
They've only agreed to route echomail..
Rick
--- GoldED 2.41+
* Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2585
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/07/94 10:43p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Floyd!
Sunday February 06 1994 01:31, Floyd Drennon wrote to John Souvestre:
JS>> And the Gateway Policy ... period.
FD> When was that ratified as required by P4?
What's required by P4?
Rick
--- GoldED 2.41+
* Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2586
To: ANYONE Date: 02/06/94 8:45a
Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Anyone. :{)
Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect?
Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT?
Thanks in advance for your help. :{)
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2587
To: ALL Date: 02/08/94 10:13p
Subj: Session level passwords and PKT passwords. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everyone. Starting 02/08/94 we have switch over to a new version of
our mailer that has an unsecure inbound for systems that that call and do not
have a session level password with us. If you notice that your address is not
in the stats or your mail is not getting out then there are one of three things
happening.
1- You have 1:3615/51 added to the seenbys. This means your message will not
make it over the sat.
2- Your PKT's have 3615/51 in the header as the originating node. This must
stop. 3615/51 should not even be in the stats as having received mail from it.
It is ok to send the compressed bundles with that address derived from it but
not the PKT's. More than likely these systems have 51 added in the seenbys and
are not getting over the sat. Rule of thumb. If you do not get the same message
back off the satellite that your system sent to me as a dupe then you have
something not set up right. If you are a Planet Connect receiving system please
active the PCSTATS area as READ ONLY and you will get daily starts of what and
who is passeing stuff thru us.
3- you do not have a session level password set up and this mail has to be
manualy tosses and so there will be a delay in it getting out. If you dont have
one set up with me netmail me with one and I will set it up here.
PACKET PASSWORDS.
Do to a few tossers out there having problems with the PASSWORD in the PTK's
coming off of the satellite, we will be removing this from the PKT's starting
Sunday the 13th. Please make sure you remove the password from any of your
tossers for 3615/50. On sunday's transmission *ALL* bundles will be without a
password.
....Boyd
--- DB 1.54/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2588
To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/07/94 11:12p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Darren!
Monday February 07 1994 20:03, Darren Hanson wrote to David Unfried:
>> Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a
>> return path be established has been one of my questions.... I
>> guess it is a lot of other peoples.
DH> And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the feed. I have
DH> heard rumblings about Planet Connect "censoring" the UseNet traffic in the
DH> sysop echos of three different networks! __ \/ dj
This is an issue that I find myself having to take the side of PC on this only
because I am interested in the continued health of the concern. I am against
censorship, and have agreed in the past to route echos and newsgroups that turn
my stomach or offend my personal values. Nonetheless I recognize others' needs
for communication, and have tried to accomodate others without judging them.
(I have received some pretty bizarre netmail from people making assumptions
based on seen-bys!)
I have had absolutely no discussions with PC folks, but I can guess what they
are up against.
Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless service,
and their satellite signal can be received by anyone. Furthermore, they have
not put any controls into effect on who distributes their feeds once back on
the ground. Regardless of the "dongle" key, they have probably not verified the
age of their customers, and have not devised a way to encode these sections
separately. The possibility exists that explicit or obscene (as interpreted by
local courts in various areas of the county) material could get in the hands of
people under 18. Here's the rub. We have all kinds of protection using private
point to point phone line connections but "broadcasting" over satellite is
different. Even if the chances are remote and other services "are doing it" my
guess is they are reluctant to mess with it and become vulerable.
I have no idea why they would censor sysop echos, but I can see problems with
carrying some of the newsgroups I've seen in the past, including
alt.vomit.fondle and alt.sex.bestiality. (g)
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2589
To: JOHN BURTON Date: 02/08/94 9:07a
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AH> *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail
AH> due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does
AH> so is in clear violation of POLICY4.
JS> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per P4,
JS> mail can only be routed by agreement.
AH> That statement shows a total lack of forethought, John. An echomail
AH> Hub, by definition, has agreed to route mail.
jb> I don't *think* so, Al...
jb> You can't just drop Routed NetMail off at a HUBs door and expect them to
jb> route it on up-stream.
WAKE UP! We weren't discussing Netmail, john.
jb> I handle routed NetMail for Net147.. And if someone from Net234 dropped
jb> off NetMail addressed to someone within Net147 I'd have to route it by
jb> virtue of my NC hat... But if that same person from Net234 dropped off
jb> NetMail addressed to Net345 without prior arrangement, I have no
jb> obligation to route it on...
But you would have an obligation to return it under P4, Section 2.1.7.
jb> An echomail HUB does NOT *HAVE* to route NetMail..
Never said they did. An Echomail Hub must route all traffic that it has
previously agreed to route ... i.e. Echomail. Failure to route a specific
message because you don't like the content (like 8 bit charachters) does not
release an echomail Hub from their responsibility of returning the message
under P4. The argument over whether Netmail == Echomail is not applicable.
Section 2.1.7 states "traffic", which Echomail certianly is, and describes
responsibility or returning an undelivered "messsage", which Echomail certianly
is. It does not differentiate between the type of "traffic" or "message" being
transmitted.
Al
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2590
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/09/94 3:23a
Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, Katherine Schroeder said:
KS>Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
KS>
KS>It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it
KS>came in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as
KS>well but can't remember exactly how late.
KS>
Well, the .TIC came in on time. Does that count? <GRIN>
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN COOK Number: 2591
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 1:31p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
$1.00 per node per month is a real world example. In a net with 180 nodes,
that makes for a good payback yet keeps the participants costs at about 1/2th
the prior CRP rate.
A node in our network which has a dish has offered to feed our NEC for the
above mentioned $1/node/month until the net is able to get its own dish (real
soon now). At that rate it's still quite a win-win deal.
- Dan
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2592
To: ED MARQUIS Date: 02/07/94 4:59p
Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ed
Thanks for the info. After I read your original message again I saw where you
stated that you were running 4dos. So and I tried it and it worked. Thanks for
your help Gill
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565-3122 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SHEILA LENNON Number: 2593
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/08/94 1:22a
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mark Krieg (1:270/612) on Sat, Feb 05, wrote:
MK>I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
MK>hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
We're giving it away free to any sysop who agrees to pass it on free to all
callers, and to allow enough daily time online so even nonsubscribing 2400-baud
callers can make use of them.
Planet Connect has made free public access possible. It's an investment we
couldn't refuse, and the timing couldn't have been better.
We dubbed our project Radio Free Echomail. I bought the dish, and a core
group of about a dozen sysops are donating time, skills, spare parts and
opinions (!) to make it work. Being part of this experiment in cooperation may
be the biggest fringe benefit of all.
--- msgedsq 2.1
* Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2594
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/08/94 4:24a
Subj: Re: P C in korea Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello, Boyd. Finally got my machine copying the satellite transmissions.
However, the explanation of the STATUS indicators in the blue sheet
documentation doesn't seem to match what I'm seeing on the display.
Is there a more detailed explanation of those abbreviations?
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN DODSON Number: 2595
To: CHARLIE CARTER Date: 02/08/94 11:13a
Subj: Fidonet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as
MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
Net 381 shares actual costs (including the PC feed fee) plus $2 a month
for a hardware fund to build up our dedciated mail hub. Last months
bill was $7.90 (which will go down once the phone line installation is
paid for). We have about 25 out of 40 systems participating.
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ERIC KRICHBAUM Number: 2596
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 11:55a
Subj: Re: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07 Feb 94 18:00:00, Katherine Schroeder muttered something to Al
KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
KS>
KS> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came in, and I
KS> vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but can't remember exactly
KS> how late.
KS>
KS> Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on time...
KS>
KS> Is this what we call progress? <-grin->
KS>
KS> -=<-Katherine->=-
KS> --- GEcho 1.02+
KS> * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Texas (1:3802/221)
The TIC file for it came through but not the file. I grabbed it off the
internet at ftp.fidonet.org.
Freqable here as NODEDIFF
1:277/1, 23 ZyXel 19.200 speeds
1:277/21, 22, 25 16.8 Duals
1:277/24 Boca 14.4 v32b
Eric
--- * Origin: The Tek Room Node 1 (304)292-4744 (1:277/1)
--- QM v1.26/b
* Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 2597
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/08/94 7:48a
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark!
In a message to All <02/05/94> Mark Krieg wrote:
MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
$40 / MONTH
<<sig.imp
* WCE 1.5/2119 * Horn broke...watch for finger.
--- WM v3.10/92-0329
* Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 2598
To: LEE BONNIFIELD Date: 02/08/94 10:20p
Subj: Be a TVLIST distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Feb 04 04:37>, Lee Bonnifield writes:
LB>Do you want me to refer them to your BBS? Please say so by sending me
LB>netmail, with your BBS phone number and location.
Lee, a good number of us are mail hubs without local user bases. The TVAGENT
stuff dies on the downlink system. So far you, or whomever, have decided we
can't net feed this stuff on to any other systems that support users. Whomever
that person is remains completely blind to the possibilities of the media. I
feed mail to between 80 and 120 nodes in the Memphis area and would be happy to
net forward this stuff on to those who wish to subscribe. Tell that 'whomever'
to wake up. :-)
D.
--- msgedsq 2.0.5
* Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 2599
To: TOM JONES Date: 02/08/94 11:44a
Subj: Re: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TJ> PC> Has anyone been able to =succesfully= run their Planet
TJ> PC> Connect system
TJ> PC> within DESQview?
TJ>Finally got it going here. I have a 486-DX-66 for the BBS
TJ>machine, and am using a 386-DX-40 dedicated to the satellite.
TJ>I run DV on both machines and they are tied together via
So like that you're running DESQview on two servers, right? Which
versions of software are you using, and what type of cards?
I've been hesitating on upgrading DESQview because I've read so many
messages from SysOp who have returned to DV 2.42 because of numerous
lock ups...
Paul
* OLX 2.1 TD * Uh oh. Your zip file is open!
--- WM v3.10/92-0414
* Origin: -≡ CompuBBS ≡- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 2600
To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/08/94 11:45a
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MF>PC> Has anyone been able to =succesfully= run their Planet
MF>PC> Connect system within DESQview?
MF>Yep! That's the _only_ way ours has run since last fall.
MF>It is running on a 386DX/40 with 16550's on the serial ports, X00 loaded BEF
MF>DESQview, DRDOS 6, and, of course, DV.
How many nodes are you running, and which version of DV are you using?
Thanks,
Paul
VE1POL
* OLX 2.1 TD * Well I'll be RAM'ed
--- WM v3.10/92-0414
* Origin: -≡ CompuBBS ≡- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 2601
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/08/94 1:47p
Subj: Nodediff.a35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
My nodediff.a35 had crc errors, so I called another satellite connected
board in Florida, and downloaded it. It also has crc errors. Anyone
else get this? Tick puked when it came through and marked it bad...so
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2602
To: PLANET CONNECT Date: 02/07/94 1:01p
Subj: Update pcusenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
When are you guys going to update the list. On your list - of all the areas -
722 areas have not come thru yet and 900 + are not even listed. Of all messages
sent - only 500 of the areas had more then 10 messages in them. I would guess
that there is very little control in the way newsgroups are setup. I have 2300
areas of which 1700 are now of passthru status for lack of messages. If anybody
would like a copy of my squish.cfg they are welcome to it(Instead of wasting
your time as I have done). But what the heck - its 40 below and not a whole lot
more to do. P.S. If you have OS/2 I have some great rexx scripts for PC.
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2603
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 11:10p
Subj: Re: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Katherine Schroeder to All ***
KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
KS>
KS> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came
KS> in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but
KS> can't remember exactly how late.
KS>
KS> Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on
KS> time...
KS>
KS> Is this what we call progress? <-grin->
KS>
KS> -=<-Katherine->=-
Take a pill babe!
Glenn
---
* Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2604
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/08/94 2:30a
Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Don!
06 Feb 94 06:52, Don Waybright wrote to Mike Labbe:
DW> In a message Mike Labbe to Robert Hilgar it was said:
DW> With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail
DW> processor handle these? I honestly do not know... I have always
DW> associated such files extentions with offline readers... Pardon
DW> my ignorance in this matter!
Nope... what you use depends on the bbs type you are using... If it wildcat i
think you can use tnet... if remote access or another compabilte bbs there a
utility called mkutil or something like that,,, But bascily what these programs
due is toss the qwk pack into your message base. most mail tossers will not do
this.. because the qwk packets are not fts packets...
Thank you,
Brian
--- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8
* Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2605
To: DAN COOK Date: 02/09/94 1:19a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Feb 06, Dan Cook of 1:202/344 wrote to John Souvestre:
JS> Messages with multiple origin lines are generally dupes, not grunged.
DC> Re-origination is quite a popular form of screwup these days. We
DC> see new nodes blasting out re-originated messages by the
DC> thousands for days on end. I would not mind seeing the stars
DC> delete any echomail message with more than ONE origin line.
You'd be surprised to find out how many people feel that doing that would be
far too aggressive. :-)
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2606
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/09/94 1:24a
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Feb 07, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to John Souvestre:
JS> Not all Hubs agree to the same terms. If there was only
JS> ONE set of terms, then you would be able to post them
JS> here, right?
AH> Policy simply and clearly states ROUTING. It says nothing about
AH> "terms." Routing is routing, John. If know of multiple
AH> definitions of "routing" under Policy 4, then I'd like you to
AH> point out the applicable sections to me.
You've defeated yourself, Al. There are *no* such definitions in P4 because P4
doesn't dictate the terms. The parties to the agreement decide the terms.
But since you think that there is only one type of routing agreement, then
please tell me what you thing the answers are to some of the following routing
issues:
- Cost-sharing. Can I refuse to route for you if you don't contribute to my
cost-sharing plan? Where does P4 define how my cost-sharing plan works?
- Do I have to route your outgoing netmail?
- Do I have to route any echo you want, even though I don't want to carry it?
What if I have to make an extra call to get that "TALK_DIRTY" echo that you
want? Oh, you only want Backbone echoes? Where does P4 define the Backbone?
- What technical specs does your echomail have to conform to? P4 doesn't
mention anything beyond FTS-0001. For example, there's this thing called
GroupMail...
I think that you should have the idea by now.
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2607
To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 02/09/94 1:38a
Subj: GMD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Chris.
> Characters with the "hi bit" (the 8th bit) aren't ASCII at
> all. If you disagree then I challenge you to send me a copy
> of the ASCII spec that says so. My copy of the spec lists
> only 7 bit characters.
CW> You are correct in this regard. The 'standard' ASCII set goes
CW> from 0-127 decimal. Anything above 127 is considered 'block
CW> graphic' or 'special' character set.
OK. :-)
CW> It is my undertsanding,
CW> though, that Fido permits the special character set, but is not
CW> encouraged because some technologies do not support these.. I'm
CW> sure that a quick look in P4 will set things right.
It's more a matter of "if P4 doesn't ban it then it's OK". :-)
Within a given echo it's up to the Moderator. For Backbone echoes, the Hubs
appreciate it if you stick to alpha characters in the control fields.
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALTER CADE Number: 2608
To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 01/30/94 8:50p
Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> it would be very nice to be able to send the news groups back thru
-> you..say..in pkt form...if we could have a standardized echo tag list
-> for our areas.bbs it would be great...if i have to pay holonet
-> $10 to $15 a month for return mail then why not pay you and make only
-> phone call a night..like you said..another nightmare for you..
-> btw how are we coming on getting circuitnet up on the bird?
-> jery
I agree with you and we all know Boyd needs soem more nightmares <G>. I
expect when PC gets all the feed coming thru. They will look into this.
Besides it would only make sense, but I'll bet they have plenty to do
for now.
Walter
--- WM v3.10/93-0997
* Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE GENTRY Number: 2609
To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 02/08/94 10:57p
Subj: Re: TIC'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Murry Francis to Tye Hammerle <=-
MF> If you are using ALLfix, than a quick look at the doc's will tell
MF> you that you can convert the *.SDN to any format you command it too.
Murry,
I just pick up a copy of ALLfix the other day, and found it really
hard to set up. I am running Binkley with Qmail and would love to
get some help on the control files for ALLfix (ie the ones that ASETUP
builds) Could I get a copy of yours less any passwords to look at?
Any thing at this point will help, Let me know and I will poll your
system for the stuff. Also anyone else running ALLfix please feel free
to jump in here...
Thanks for your help in this project, at this point I don't remember what
my Wife looks like....
....Dave Gentry
MF> -!- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
MF> ! Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
* Origin: G.A.D.M. 4-lines TBBS Hayward,CA.(510) 581-3019 (1:215/208)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2610
To: ALL Date: 02/08/94 11:39a
Subj: Usatoday Pcboard Ppl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Freq: USAPPL from 1:14/644 to get the quick release of our PCBoard USAToday
online reader (PPL). This will get PCBoard BBS's up and running the USAToday
Decisionline as quick as possible with a nifty user interface - and look for a
full blown door to be out for ALL BBS types in the very near future.. all this
either free or a VERY SMALL fraction of current USAToday doors...
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROB JACOBSEN Number: 2611
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/07/94 8:05p
Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AH>
AH> I see a potential problem here. If the missing file on pass 1 is an
AH> XMAIL file (i.e. *.FR3 is missing) and you go ahead and toss *.FR0 thru
AH> *.FRB, then when you go back and get *.FR3 you're going to be tossing
AH> mail "out of sequence." While this isn't really a technical faux pas,
AH> it could well result in the end nodes/users reading 6 replies to a
AH> message *before* they get to the original question. That's a real
AH> bummer and I HATE it when that happens <g>.
AH>
First off a disclaimer. I don't have PC yet but have been following the
discussions in an effort to understand the tricks and pitfalls of doing so. A
question occurs to me. Could a program be written to move only sequencial
files to the tosser? To use your example above, move *.fr0, *.fr1, *.fr2 to
the tosser and then go back to find the missing files. At least that way, a
partial toss could be done to get something ready for the nodes, while the PC
software is picking up the missing stuff. Sure would beat waiting 8 - 12 hours
for those missing files before tossing the mail. I wouldn't have a clue as to
how to right such a thing. Perhaps you do?
Rob
--- OPMED 3.10.018/b
* Origin: Rob's Wreck Room (1:3403/4)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: STEVE HUSK Number: 2612
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/02/94 3:44a
Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I'm anxious to get started also. Have you received your equipment yet?
>Mine was supposed to be shipped on the 18th -- I got the preliminary video
>and 'location instruments'...
>
Hi Fred, yes we have had our dish up since about the first week of Jan. It
was very easy. The only problem has been all the set up and changes in
software. Now that was a pain :) Sorry it took me so long to get back to
you, just a busy time of the year for me.
--- SLMAIL v3.5 (#0999)
* Origin: County Link BBS (1:157/576)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: STEVE HUSK Number: 2613
To: ALL Date: 02/09/94 9:17a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everyone, this is just a message to test our set up with Planet Connect.
Steve Husk
--- SLMAIL v3.5B (#0999)
* Origin: County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2614
To: MICHAEL ERWIN Date: 02/09/94 1:26p
Subj: RUNNING ON OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ME> This worked for me, but also beware that OS/2 2.0 likes
ME> all the LPT lines to
ME> be there. OS/2 2.1GA likes that they be there also but
ME> doesn't require them.
ME> Some of the cheaper LPT cards shorts pins 18-25 on the
ME> DB-25 & some of the lower grade LPT cables do the same
ME> thing.
ME> If you still have problems contact me.
Thanks, Michael, I'll check out my LPT card and try everything again. I'm sure
that I'll have more questions. Since I'm using a DigiBoard 8i, I'll have to,
also, mount a standard seriel card for the PTCCMAIN program and load the
appropriate drivers. Are you using the standard OS/2 drivers or SIO?
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2615
To: ERIC KRICHBAUM Date: 02/09/94 4:20p
Subj: Re: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<=> Eric Krichbaum Was Heard Saying This To Katherine Schroeder:
EK>KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
EK>The TIC file for it came through but not the file. I grabbed
EK>Freqable here as NODEDIFF
Freqable at 1:3615/50 as nodediff.a35, I saw the mistake with the .tic and
no file, and it was on Boyd's system, like all the other files you might miss
in the cycle.
Murry
--- GEcho 1.02/InterMail
* Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MAX VONDERHORST Number: 2616
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 6:50p
Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Katherine Schroeder wrote in a message to All:
KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
KS> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it
KS> Is this what we call progress? <-grin->
Hey! They *did* send us the .TIC file on Friday! }8^) I snared the actual
file from my former backbone feed when I picked up our regional echomail
Saturday at noon.
I think Planet Connect found where they left it on Monday and sent it out over
the bird. 'Ain't' technology GRAND.}8^)
Regards,
Max
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: The Silver Meteor - Highballin' Orlando's Mail (1:363/320)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2617
To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 02/09/94 6:13p
Subj: TV AGENT DEMO IS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello Art & Boyd,
->
-> -> Maybe I can ask yoy to send my TVAGENT disk via the mail, I have b
-> -> promised it several times over the phone. You have my address in y
-> -> database. I would like to try it without the dongle!
->
-> I've experienced the same and I'm still waiting too for the same.
->
Hmmm I wonder if there is a shortage? I havent even seen what it will
do as I dont want to remove the dongle from the Planet Connect
machine......... Boyd or anyone here are at least two PC owners that
still dont have our TVAGENT disks.
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2618
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 02/09/94 1:10p
Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Joe Patterson wrote in a message to Anyone:
JP> Hello Anyone. :{)
JP> Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect?
JP> Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT?
Yup.....
greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2619
To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 02/09/94 1:16p
Subj: Nodediff.a35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jeff Cameron wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin:
JC> My nodediff.a35 had crc errors, so I called another
JC> satellite connected board in Florida, and downloaded it. It
JC> also has crc errors. Anyone else get this? Tick puked
JC> when it came through and marked it bad...so
I dont think so....unless you renamed the TIC from bad and then ran it thru
again when the nodediff came in 3 days after the TIC did :)
You should be able to file request it from your RC......
greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2620
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/09/94 3:55p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
David Unfried wrote in a message to Darren Hanson:
DU> I have no idea why they would censor sysop echos, but I can
DU> see problems with carrying some of the newsgroups I've seen
DU> in the past, including alt.vomit.fondle and
DU> alt.sex.bestiality. (g)
I can understand that, but why take a stand on these groups, is it just because
they have names like that? Because you would be surprized at what goes on in
fido groups that have relatively innocuous sounding names.
I am not going to specifically mention what groups I have in mind, but I carry
one of these groups, specifically for a user, and I have gone to great lengths
so that I don't see, or read a single message in that area.
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2621
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/10/94 2:50a
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>Are you running a DV window dedicated to the PC program?
DW>That I can do here also... But Let's say I am running
DW>BinkleyTer, using the modem on Com1 can I get Binkley to
DW>error out and Bring PC up on a different com port?
I don't speak "Bink" but you can (and I used to) have FrontDoor exit on an
external event and run Planet Connect. And yep, my board [1:116/205] runs on
com1 while the satellite data receiver is on com2.
Mickey
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2622
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/10/94 2:55a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to John Souvestre, Floyd Drennon said:
FD>Then it must have been distributed by stone tablet. 8-) Just
You've reminded me of an old (ancient?) strip in the old comic "BC" where
Peter is standing behind a rock marked "Post Office" and there is a customer
standing in front of the rock. There is a turtle in the background with a
stone tablet strapped to its back heading for parts unknown. The customer
asks: "Is that the third class mail?" Peter replys: "Nope, that's the first
class mail. With the third class we just throw it as far as we can and hope
they find it."
<GRIN>
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2623
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/10/94 2:59a
Subj: Re: P C in korea Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Fred Hatfield said:
FH>Hello, Boyd. Finally got my machine copying the satellite
FH>transmissions. However, the explanation of the STATUS
'bout time Fred! A genuine ham radio moderator type ought to be copying in by
hand! <GRIN>
FH>indicators in the blue sheet documentation doesn't seem to
FH>match what I'm seeing on the display.
FH>Is there a more detailed explanation of those abbreviations?
Check QST for the latest in abbraviations. (Q signals?)
73...Mickey, WA4KDC
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2624
To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 02/10/94 3:12a
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PC>How many nodes are you running, and which version of DV are
PC>you using?
PC>Thanks,
PC>Paul
PC>VE1POL
Actually, Paul, _my_ board [1:116/205] is running only one node and two
windows. It does nothing but bring in the mail/files and distribute them. I'm
now on my "she who must be obeyed's" board [to quote Rumpole]. So I am
running exactly TWO windows. One is the board, the other is either Planet
Connect or ZZZZZZZZ.BAT. My "she who must be obeyed" wrote a little ditty
that "sleeps" until it is time for Boyd to start the new day of mail/files
when it "wakes" up & runs Planet Connect until _everything_ is in.
I honestly don't know what the DV version is....2.something, not the latest.
Really, I don't think the DV version matters. From what I've seen, the main
thing is to have 16550's in your serial card(s), to run your Fossil __BEFORE__
you run DV, and to have the 16550 enabled in the .INI file.
73..de..WA4KDC
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 2625
To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 02/09/94 6:52p
Subj: Nodediff.a35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> My nodediff.a35 had crc errors, so I called another satellite connected
> board in Florida, and downloaded it. It also has crc errors. Anyone
> else get this? Tick puked when it came through and marked it bad...so
Mine processed fine. Just had to rename the bad tic file back to *.tic when
the diff finally showed up.
<-> Charlie <->
---
* Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2626
To: CHARLIE CARTER Date: 02/10/94 2:42a
Subj: Re: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I just put PC up on a 286-12 as a server with LANtastic v 5.0 and use the
>386 as a workstation to access it. The 286 isn't anything special (8250
>UART's - yes they work fine, 250 Mb WD IDE drive, LANtastic AE2 cards in
>both machines).
Charlie,
You must be lucky, I put PC up on a dedicated 386SX-25 and
when I accessed the machine via my LAN, the files being
received got errors... I had to install a 16550 and the
fixed the problem...
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.5B (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2627
To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/08/94 11:13p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Feb0823:13, Darren Hanson of 1:103/271@Fidonet.org writes:
> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups
> that Planet Connect caries?
DH> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself
DH> with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get
DH> one, let me know so I can come get a copy, okay?
I'll shoot you a squish.cfg if that's OK.
--- msgedsq/2 2.1
* Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2628
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 02/09/94 10:26p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per
>>> P4, mail can only be routed by agreement.
AH> That statement shows a total lack of forethought, John. An echomail
AH> Hub, by definition, has agreed to route mail.
RA> They've only agreed to route echomail..
EXACTLY ... and since Echomail is all that we were discussing you have
confirmed my statement.
Al
--- DB 1.53/002765
* Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAN COOK Number: 2629
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/06/94 4:57p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Messages with multiple origin lines are generally dupes, not grunged.
Re-origination is quite a popular form of screwup these days. We see new nodes
blasting out re-originated messages by the thousands for days on end. I would
not mind seeing the stars delete any echomail message with more than ONE origin
line. Hitting the NEXT key 30 or 40 times in every echo the bozo node caries
is always such a royal pain. Either that, or ban VFIDO <g>.
- Dan
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 2630
To: ART MACK Date: 02/07/94 10:00a
Subj: TV AGENT DEMO IS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Art & Boyd,
-> Maybe I can ask yoy to send my TVAGENT disk via the mail, I have been
-> promised it several times over the phone. You have my address in your
-> database. I would like to try it without the dongle!
I've experienced the same and I'm still waiting too for the same.
Regards,
Hans
--- PCBoard 15.1
* Origin: Logical Solutions, 25 Lines 299-9900. Region Hub Calgary (1:134/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AL HAYS Number: 2631
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 8:56p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As
JS> per P4, mail can only be routed by agreement.
AH> An echomail Hub, by definition, has agreed to route mail.
JS> Not all Hubs agree to the same terms. If there was only
JS> ONE set of terms, then you would be able to post them
JS> here, right?
Policy simply and clearly states ROUTING. It says nothing about "terms."
Routing is routing, John. If know of multiple definitions of "routing" under
Policy 4, then I'd like you to point out the applicable sections to me.
Al
---
* Origin: Mystic Pharos BBS - HST/V32/V42b (1:363/89)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2632
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/06/94 4:58p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark!
05 Feb 94 12:32, Mark Krieg wrote to All:
MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
MK> Thanks...
if your are a local node $10.00 a month. Long disatance nodes $5.00 a month.
Thank you,
Brian
--- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8
* Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2633
To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/07/94 8:31p
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Mickey Ferguson to Paul Cormier it was said:
MF> It is running on a 386DX/40 with 16550's on the serial
MF> ports, X00 loaded BEFORE DESQview, DRDOS 6, and, of course,
MF> DV.
Are you running a DV window dedicated to the PC program? That I can do here
also... But Let's say I am running BinkleyTer, using the modem on Com1 can I
get Binkley to error out and Bring PC up on a different com port?
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2634
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 9:46p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi John,
07 Feb 94, 01:55, John Souvestre wrote to Floyd Drennon:
FD>> When was that ratified as required by P4?
JS> I don't know, Floyd. It was before my time. I understand that the
JS> IC does consider it "in effect".
Then it must have been distributed by stone tablet. 8-) Just because he
wishes it was part of policy doesn't make it so.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2635
To: JOHN MORANO Date: 02/08/94 2:56p
Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John!
Monday February 07 1994, John Morano writes to Russell Naber:
RN>> Al, How about adding code to check PCUtils program's dupe
RN>> index file, i.e. have
RN>> upcheck check files in a inbound directory against PCUtil's
RN>> idx-dup file?
JM> Russell, From the sound of your message you missed the announcement about
JM> PCFU the replacement program for PCUtils, you can freq it here using the
JM> magic name PCFU, I think you will be pleasently surprised what it will do.
JM> John
JM> -+- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
JM> + Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
I'm not surprised, considering the missed stuff occansionally here and fine
tuning bat files. <g>
Russell
--- GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2636
To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 02/07/94 9:54p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I get 100 % participation in cost sharing here in net 233 to cover th
-> costs.
Hi Hector. Long time since I talked to you. Say hi for me to all the
people over in 233.
--MArtin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2637
To: ART MACK Date: 02/07/94 9:55p
Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> As well you should...I guess Mrs Bobbit thought there was no use for
-> which was why she removed it. She said it was a _majority_ decission.
I thought she said it was a HARD decision......
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2638
To: BILL ROPER Date: 02/07/94 9:58p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> and yes, I do have an idean other than DEL .SDN...
->
-> how about FORMAT C:
That should be:
ECHO Y|FORMAT C:
--Grin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE LABBE Number: 2639
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/07/94 3:07p
Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail processor handle
-> these? I honestly do not know... I have always associated such files
-> extentions with offline readers... Pardon my ignorance in this matter!
Absolutely - a QWK mail processor will handle them. Which BBS software are you
using?
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: Eagles Nest BBS - Providence, RI USA - 401-732-5290 (1:323/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LISA GRONKE Number: 2640
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 9:25p
Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
07-Feb-94, Katherine Schroeder <1:3802/221> writes to All in PLANET_CONNET:
> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet?
> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came
> in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but
> can't remember exactly how late.
> Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on time...
> Is this what we call progress? <-grin->
It seems to me that the nodediff should be distributed via the *C chain, else
how can the *Cs be confident that the {nodes, nets} in their segment of the
nodelist have not gone off the air?
--- QM v1.30
* Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LISA GRONKE Number: 2641
To: MICHAEL REEVES Date: 02/08/94 9:26p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
07-Feb-94, Michael Reeves writes to Mark Krieg:
> MSGID: 1:238/150 86427555
> $5.00 a month for small/normal size net. for big net $2.50
> a month per downlink for echos
> ---
> X QMPro 1.52 X SOMETIMES I WAKE UP GROUCHY, SOMETIMES I LET HER SLEEP
>
>
> --- WM v3.10/93-0334
> * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802)
> PATH: 238/150 3615/50 396/1 209/209 105/30 54
The node ID in your Origin line seems to have gone missing....
--- QM v1.30
* Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2642
To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 4:22a
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <07 Feb 94 14:26:00>, Darren Hanson (1:103/271) writes:
DH>> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups
DH>> that Planet Connect caries?
DH>
DH>I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself with
DH>absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get one, let me
DH>know so I can come get a copy, okay?
There appears to be a list sent with every block of UseNet newsgroups
transmitted. Look for PCUSENET.TXT.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2643
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 02/09/94 1:07p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rick,
07 Feb 94, 22:43, Rick Ashworth wrote to Floyd Drennon:
JS>>> And the Gateway Policy ... period.
FD>> When was that ratified as required by P4?
RA> What's required by P4?
Ratification of any policy that supplements or expands the requirements of P4
itself.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2644
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/09/94 1:09p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David,
07 Feb 94, 23:12, David Unfried wrote to Darren Hanson:
DU> Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless
DU> service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone.
Then why is a dongle required? In other words, it makes no difference who
*can* receive it if they can't use it after they receive it.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2645
To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 6:34p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Paul Cormier, Darren Hanson said:
> > Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups
> > that Planet Connect caries?
> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks
> myself with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do
> happen to get one, let me know so I can come get a copy,
> okay?
> __
> \/ dj
> --- FMail 0.94
> * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen
> here! (1:103/271)
If you are running Planet_Connect you should have a list in your newsgrp dir.
Its called pcusenet.txt. If you arent. I have it here on my new uploads dir.
file area 53. PCUSENET.TXT... Gill Blue
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565-3122 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2646
To: ALL Date: 02/09/94 11:14p
Subj: Session level passwords and PKT passwords. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everyone. Starting 02/08/94 we have switch over to a new version of
our mailer that has an unsecure inbound for systems that that call and do not
have a session level password with us. If you notice that your address is not
in the stats or your mail is not getting out then there are one of three things
happening.
1- You have 1:3615/51 added to the seenbys. This means your message will not
make it over the sat.
2- Your PKT's have 3615/51 in the header as the originating node. This must
stop. 3615/51 should not even be in the stats as having received mail from it.
It is ok to send the compressed bundles with that address derived from it but
not the PKT's. More than likely these systems have 51 added in the seenbys and
are not getting over the sat. Rule of thumb. If you do not get the same message
back off the satellite that your system sent to me as a dupe then you have
something not set up right. If you are a Planet Connect receiving system please
active the PCSTATS area as READ ONLY and you will get daily starts of what and
who is passeing stuff thru us.
3- you do not have a session level password set up and this mail has to be
manualy tosses and so there will be a delay in it getting out. If you dont have
one set up with me netmail me with one and I will set it up here.
PACKET PASSWORDS.
Do to a few tossers out there having problems with the PASSWORD in the PTK's
coming off of the satellite, we will be removing this from the PKT's starting
Sunday the 13th. Please make sure you remove the password from any of your
tossers for 3615/50. On sunday's transmission *ALL* bundles will be without a
password. Now this is for PKT's ONLY! A session level password for return mail
sessions is still REQUIRED!
....Boyd
--- DB B2106/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GILL BLUE Number: 2647
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/09/94 7:29p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Paul Cormier, Guy VanDell said:
> Paul Cormier wrote in a message to All:
> PC> Hi,
> PC> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet
> PC> newsgroups that Planet Connect caries?
> i think that pcusenet.txt is that list.
> --- timEd-B11
> * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80)
PCUSENET.TXT is what you need... Gill
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565-3122 (1:18/16)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 2648
To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 2:28a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to David Unfried, Darren Hanson said:
DH>3615/50 3615/51
DH> > Hello Dave!
DH>Hello Dave! <gryn>
DH>Monday February 7 1994 17:05, David Unfried wrote to Dave
DH>Petrucci:
DH> > Sunday January 23 1994 16:25, Dave Petrucci wrote to David Unfried:
DH> > DP> David,
DH> > DP> If you have any questions go ahead and ask.
DH> > Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a
DH> > return path be established has been one of my questions.... I
DH> > guess it is a lot of other peoples.
DH>And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the
DH>feed. I have heard rumblings about Planet Connect
DH>"censoring" the UseNet traffic in the sysop echos of three
DH>different networks!
DH>__
DH>\/ dj
Why What about the state and Fed law on thoughs Echo's. So why get
Involed with something that can hurt you sooner or later.
keep it clean and simple works for me !
---
* Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2649
To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 10:53a
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Darren Hanson wrote in a message to Paul Cormier:
> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups
> that Planet Connect caries?
DH> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks
DH> myself with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do
DH> happen to get one, let me know so I can come get a copy,
DH> okay?
Strange, Darren, but every day we see a file called PCUSENET.TXT in our
newsgroups directory that contains just such a list and it was that list that
we used to create our active.map file.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- timEd/2-B11
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE LABBE Number: 2650
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/09/94 4:25p
Subj: Fidonet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a hub fee
-> for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
Hi Mark
We have about 10 local nodes calling here and charge a modest $8 per month.
This may be lowered to $6 in the near future. For the $8, we're offering
Providence a 10+ node high speed reliable mail server with unlimited feeds and
very few busy signals. The processing of packets and satellite collection are
done on dedicated machines. The investment was made by us, with a long term
recovery expected.
Mike
--- QScan v1.06b
* Origin: Eagles Nest BBS - Providence, RI USA - 401-732-5290 (1:323/150)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2651
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/10/94 6:11a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <07 Feb 94 23:12:22>, David Unfried (1:103/355) writes:
DU>Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless
DU>service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone.
DU>Furthermore, they have not put any controls into effect on who
DU>distributes their feeds once back on the ground. Regardless of the
But the wireless signal is that same information that has been carried on the
telephone lines.
And the government has been paying funds to carry those same conferences on
telephone lines for years.
It's a lot easier for a youngster to get to those messages with his home
computer rather than setting up a satellite receiving system.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2652
To: STEVE HUSK Date: 02/10/94 6:21a
Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <02 Feb 94 03:44:00>, STEVE HUSK (1:157/576) writes:
SH>>I'm anxious to get started also. Have you received your equipment
SH>>yet? Mine was supposed to be shipped on the 18th -- I got the
SH>>preliminary video and 'location instruments'...
SH>
SH>Hi Fred, yes we have had our dish up since about the first week of Jan.
SH> It was very easy. The only problem has been all the set up and
SH>changes in software. Now that was a pain :) Sorry it took me so long
SH>to get back to you, just a busy time of the year for me.
No problem, Steve. Since the above message, I've had a shipment delay due to
the bad weather and I've also gotten my system set up and copying data -- with
the help of some terrific folks.
But I'm having trouble rationalizing the STATUS indicators with the
documentation. They don't seem to recognize each other....
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2653
To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 02/10/94 12:42p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups
>> that Planet Connect caries?
> DH> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself
> DH> with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get
> DH> one, let me know so I can come get a copy, okay?
> I'll shoot you a squish.cfg if that's OK.
Got it the other day. Thanks!
__
\/ dj
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROB NELSON Number: 2654
To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 02/09/94 12:21p
Subj: TV AGENT DEMO IS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Maybe I can ask yoy to send my TVAGENT disk via the mail, I have been
-> promised it several times over the phone. You have my address in your
-> database. I would like to try it without the dongle!
HH> I've experienced the same and I'm still waiting too for the
HH> same.
I wonder if any Canadian subscribers have received the TVAgent disk yet. I'm
another who is still waiting.....
Cheers,
Rob
---
* Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2655
To: ALL Date: 02/10/94 12:42a
Subj: PC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
I had PC up and running on my old machine just fine... I just received my new
machine and it's running.... Files are coming in... Final status of "PH"
But if i exit out of the program and go check the file dir:
C:\Planetc\Bridge\Files there are no files there! Does the Key or the software
"know" I have changed machines <grin> and killing the files off?
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2656
To: MIKE LABBE Date: 02/10/94 9:29p
Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Mike Labbe to Don Waybright it was said:
-> With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail processor handle
-> these? I honestly do not know... I have always associated such files
-> extentions with offline readers... Pardon my ignorance in this matter!
ML> Absolutely - a QWK mail processor will handle them. Which
ML> BBS software are you using?
I am running Maximus with good ole Squish and Squish style message bases... But
*.Msg areas can be used also...
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2657
To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/10/94 9:30p
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Mickey Ferguson to Don Waybright it was said:
MF> I don't speak "Bink" but you can (and I used to) have
MF> FrontDoor exit on an external event and run Planet Connect.
MF> And yep, my board [1:116/205] runs on com1 while the
MF> satellite data receiver is on com2.
Ok.... so you have FD (I use to speak FD'ish) exit out (and was on Com1 and
Have PC's stuff fire up on COM2... Are you telling DV to use comm ports?
Rds,
-=Don=-
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2658
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/11/94 9:25p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Feb 10, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to John Souvestre:
GC> The specs also *explictly* provide that software
GC> should be able to cope with unlimited msg size.
JS> "Explictly"? Please provide a quote.
GC> John, because ... let's graduate from the games :-)
In other words, you can't back up what you said.
=====
GC> If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its
GC> journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of
GC> that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x
JS> That's a very common, but incorrect, statement. Does your mail
JS> processor delete dupes? How does it identify a message as a
JS> dupe? Does it use ANY method other than the seen-bys? Where in
JS> the specs is this method defined?
GC> Now damned if I haven't lost my copy of Policy 4. I was convinced
GC> that dupes were in fact identified. If it doesn't I'll concede
GC> the point as reasonable but not nearly compelling. In the meantime
GC> I'll go find myself another copy to verify.
I await your reply.
GC> As for my tosser, it does use Seen-bys, and whether it uses other
GC> methods is irrelevant, because other methods of identifying -dupes-
GC> I believe is not inconsistent with policy.
It seems that your previous statement was not quite accurate.
=====
GC> ... but what I mean is "deal with the large msg without crashing
GC> the system or negatively affecting other mail."
...
GC> GEcho certainly will cope any size msg, truncating that which it
GC> is incapable of tossing and preserving the header so the sender
GC> may be alerted.
Your mail processor "copes" with large messages by modifying them. Certainly
you must realize that this is in violation of P4, Section 2.1.5, unless there
is a technical basis for it. Oops, you've already said that there was NO
technical reason, however, haven't you?
=====
GC> Well instead of a bunch of us going through this again, would you
GC> do us the courtesy of announcing *in*detail* to what exactly is it
GC> that you, as our major link to the non-PC Fidonet nodes, are agreeing?
My agreement is BOP 1.03.
=====
Bottom line:
- You criticize Hubs for what you, yourself do.
- In spite of statements like "The specs also *explictly* provide that ..." now
it seems that you are unable to support your statements or even find a copy of
Policy 4, FTS-0001, FTS-004 or BOP - the four documents most important to
echomail and the Backbone.
Perhaps now you can see that the issue of "what to delete" is *far* from a
simple black-and-white issue. They are many of grey areas and a constant
weighing of the benefit vs cost tradeoffs when making such decisions. So
there's plenty to discuss, but I can tell you this: Anyone who takes a
position at either extreme of this issue is most certainly wrong. :-)
John
P.S. You are welcome to FReq those four documents from me: POLICY4.ARC,
FTS-0001.A15, FTS-0004.ARC and BOP_103.ARC.
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2659
To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/11/94 8:38a
Subj: Re: P C in korea Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <10 Feb 94 02:59:03>, Mickey Ferguson (1:116/210) writes:
MF>FH>Hello, Boyd. Finally got my machine copying the satellite
MF>FH>transmissions. However, the explanation of the STATUS
MF>
MF>'bout time Fred! A genuine ham radio moderator type ought to be
MF>copying in by hand! <GRIN>
I tried, but my pencil lead burned up with the speed of writing... :-)
MF>FH>indicators in the blue sheet documentation doesn't seem to
MF>FH>match what I'm seeing on the display.
MF>
MF>FH>Is there a more detailed explanation of those abbreviations?
MF>
MF>Check QST for the latest in abbraviations. (Q signals?)
No, Mickey, I was speaking of the Status abbreviations on the PLANET CONNECT
monitor. I've figured out that if there's an error in receiving, a "T" appears
on the left side of the middle Status display. Then when the upper display is
active for the same file, it won't get stored and either "TCH" or "TPH" appears
on the upper one.
The middle one also goes through a bunch of displays quickly at the end of
receiving a file -- it looks like "PB" and "uT" and some others that are too
fast to see.
Sometimes the upper display won't store the file and displays "TCH", even when
there are no errors in the middle display.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2660
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/11/94 8:56a
Subj: PC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <10 Feb 94 00:42:54>, Don Waybright (1:264/100) writes:
DW>I had PC up and running on my old machine just fine... I just received
DW>my new machine and it's running.... Files are coming in... Final status
DW>of "PH"
DW>
DW>But if i exit out of the program and go check the file dir:
DW>C:\Planetc\Bridge\Files there are no files there! Does the Key or the
DW>software "know" I have changed machines <grin> and killing the files
DW>off?
On my system, if you use any of the pull-down window features during a file
reception, that file will not be stored -- even if it comes through without
error indications.
I finally learned to keep my hands off the keyboard during file reception.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2661
To: JOHN MORANO Date: 02/11/94 8:47a
Subj: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <10 Feb 94 05:15:01>, John Morano (1:391/1180) writes:
JM>br> I just got your PCFU program over the Satellite last week was
JM>br> looking to see if you are posting updates here on the BBS . I
JM>
JM>Keep an eye in the sky Bill, will be releasing another wide beta
JM>this weekend over the bird...
Just started trying to implement the PCFU program. I tried the MOV0 -fTIC -p
procedure to get a description file. The text showed up on the screen just
fine, but there was never a file generated.
Any suggestions?
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2662
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/10/94 3:31a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> GC> The specs also *explictly* provide that software
> GC> should be able to cope with unlimited msg size.
> "Explictly"? Please provide a quote.
John, because you are so intimately connected with the evil GMD software, you
are a harder nut to crack [grin]. Without me going through the same range of
quoting that I did with the BOP, let me simply ask you as one who is a vital
link in the mail flow, are you even suggesting that the spec does NOT provide
for unlimited msg size? If you agree that the spec does indeed allow for
unlimited size, then your challenge is spurious, for debating points only. And
I know you agree about unlimited msg size, because 1) it's the truth and 2)
you've publicly stated so in the past. So let's graduate from the games :-)
> GC> This hobby is about communicating, not deleting communication.
> You can't have effective communications when the noise level
> gets too high.
The problem with that, of course, is that one person's noise is anothers music.
I will not accept that it is up to the volunteers to decide what will be noise
and what will be music. I even have a user who was promoting something called
Death Rock for a while. Just noise to me, but so what. All the better if he and
his twenty cronies around the world could exchange playable tunes in their own
echomail conference using 8bit chars :-) Imagine the possibilities rather than
focussing on the need for limits [he cries from atop his permanent soap box]
:-))
> GC> If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its
> GC> journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of
> GC> that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x
> That's a very common, but incorrect, statement. Does your mail
> processor delete dupes? How does it identify a message as a
> dupe? Does it use ANY method other than the seen-bys? Where in
> the specs is this method defined?
Now damned if I haven't lost my copy of Policy 4. I was convinced that dupes
were in fact identified. If it doesn't I'll concede the point as reasonable but
not nearly compelling. In the meantime I'll go find myself another copy to
verify. As for my tosser, it does use Seen-bys, and whether it uses other
methods is irrelevant, because other methods of identifying -dupes- I believe
is not inconsistent with policy. Regardless, I have mine configured to use only
seen-bys so my personal habits are, I believe, completely consistent with
policy.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2663
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/10/94 3:45a
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> GC> I am not unsympathetic to people who run software that cannot
> GC> cope with various things like large masgs or high ascii. But
> GC> there are two simple facts: 1) such people are in a tiny minority
> GC> position and 2) there are relatively trivial ways for them to
> GC> cope with the problem on *their*own* system without imposing
> GC> their limitations on everyone else.
> "Tiny minority". Most of the mail processors I'm familiar with
> will not handle a message of unlimited size. Will yours?
Absolutely. I disagree with your belief about "most" mail processers. Note, I
used the word "cope" and you used the word "handle." Perhaps you are trying to
change meaning again, but what I mean is "deal with the large msg without
crashing the system or negatively affecting other mail." The typical excuse for
hub-based deletion is that some sysop claims that large size msgs hang their
system, trash their msg base or some other obsenity. If that is ever the case,
then these people have deep emotional problems forcing them to use software
that is inherently destabalizing to one's mental health.
GEcho certainly will cope any size msg, truncating that which it is incapable
of tossing and preserving the header so the sender may be alerted. Now, a
utility that would actually *contribute* to communication rather than
facilitate it's censorship, would be one that would take such headers and
create a netmail notify to the originator. Right now, if I receive an over
large msg (greater than 64k I think) I have to manually notify the sender altho
it has only happened once in my sysop "career." On that one occasion the sender
re-issued the msg in three parts and everyone benefited. What did *not* happen
was his msg get deleted and be lost to the intended recipients without their
knowledge.
> As a standard it's a joke.
I sense that we have different views of what a spec should do. I believe they
should be results-oriented and not implimentation- oriented. So instead of
saying that automobiles must include a gadget of this size and composition, the
"specs" say automobiles may only produce x volume of emissions. How you ensure
the volume is x or less is up to you, but make sure it is in fact x or less.
So when "our" specs say that mail processors should be able to cope with high
"ascii," unlimited size msgs and prevent dupes, I don't care how they do it,
just so long as they do. In no instance should an external program be invoked
to delete that which the mail processor is incompetent to handle. Indeed, even
*if* it was accepted that a majority of mail processors were "broken" according
to spec, then something like GMD is a great *disservice* because it encourages
broken software. Better to let Joe's system choke on the non-spec software than
to externally "fix" it, so that he will quit using the junk and get something
acceptable.
.glenn.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2664
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/10/94 3:55a
Subj: Gmd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> FD> Only if netmail=echomail, but that's a different echo's topic
> FD> right now, isn't it?
> AH> According to Policy, it is.
> Only under one, specific circumstance.
Well instead of a bunch of us going through this again, would you do us the
courtesy of announcing *in*detail* to what exactly is it that you, as our major
link to the non-PC Fidonet nodes, are agreeing?
You are allowing us to be dependents which is very generous and very much
appreciated. But given your historic position it has become important to know
under what conditions that dependence exists given that you do not believe it
is based in Policy. Rather than you simply throwing out series of questions
meant to challenge people, why not provide us with *your* answers, so we know
what we can expect as a product of our dependence on your generously offered
service?
For example, do you believe you have the right to delete absolutely anything
you like without notice? Just what are the limits John?
.glenn.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2665
To: LISA GRONKE Date: 02/10/94 7:13p
Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> It seems to me that the nodediff should be distributed via the
> *C chain, else how can the *Cs be confident that the {nodes,
> nets} in their segment of the nodelist have not gone off the
> air?
Hi Lisa. It's just a matter of point of entry. Now that net140 is doing PC, the
diff comes to me and goes to the NC appointed local hub who then makes his
normal distribution run. The feedback is therefore intact without the LD call
from Regina to Saskatoon. Soon not even our NC will have to poll for the diff
as another PC system is following there and will supply the NC himself with the
.diff.
.glenn.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 2666
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/10/94 1:57p
Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GV>PC> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet
GV>PC> newsgroups that Planet Connect caries?
GV>i think that pcusenet.txt is that list.
It seems that's the list. However, it was sent once around Jan 26 or
so, and my satellite system was down during that period, so I never
received it.
Hopefully Boyd will send another "updated" copy soon...
Paul
* OLX 2.1 TD * I came, I saw, I took LOTS of PICTURES!
--- WM v3.10/92-0414
* Origin: -≡ CompuBBS ≡- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2667
To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 02/11/94 2:19a
Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Greg!
09 Feb 94 13:10, Greg Shaffer wrote to Joe Patterson:
GS> Joe Patterson wrote in a message to Anyone:
JP>> Hello Anyone. :{)
JP>> Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect?
JP>> Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT?
Files ONLY... that the file echo's that on the file bone... Not the Zyxel
Nodelist file echo's or Message echo's...
Thank you,
Brian
--- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8
* Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2668
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 02/11/94 2:20a
Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Joe!
09 Feb 94 13:10, Greg Shaffer wrote to Joe Patterson:
GS> Joe Patterson wrote in a message to Anyone:
JP>> Hello Anyone. :{)
JP>> Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect?
JP>> Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT?
GS> Yup.....
yes and No 3 file echo's text files, roms, zyxel tools, that on the file bonew
yes... Zyxelnet Nodelist and message echo;s NO..... you have to get those from
land lines....
Thank you,
Brian
--- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8
* Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 2669
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/11/94 10:39a
Subj: USA TODAY! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've been waiting for USA Today to show up. Glad to see it's here! Where do I
send my money? :-)
Gotta do something about getting it here earlier in the day, though. Here on
the
coast of Maine, we like to see the morning news in the morning during
breakfast,
not for lunch. Since the USA Today file is always named the same, it shouldn't
be
much of a trick for a Canadien brain, ay, ya'll, whatever?
My log shows that there is usually an errorlevel drop to DOS between 5:00 and
8:00 am every day. It would be "wonderful" if USA Today was in that batch of
files.
Now, I know you're working on it. I guess I'm checking on your progress.
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Acorn BBS Global Village - Freeport, ME! (1:326/406)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL ROPER Number: 2670
To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/11/94 3:42p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BR>if you don't have a severe attitude problem, your messages
-> BR>certainly do come off that way.....
->
-> I generally have a good attitude, perhaps I felt particularly venomou
-> day but you seem a bit teste today. I felt my writing was quite tempe
perhaps we had simultaneous bad days.....
-> BR>and prior to that those SDN weenies were distributing .PAK
-> BR>files with .SDN extension.....
->
-> Must be way before my time as I have never seen one of those.
then your time is evidently relatively short..... the changeover
from PAK to ARJ started in June of '93......
-> BR>and yes, I do have an idean other than DEL .SDN...
-> BR>how about FORMAT C:
->
-> Not a very nice thing to propose especially from one who thinks MY ma
-> bad.
I was corrected by someone... it should have been
ECHO Y|FORMAT C:
-> BR>as a less destructive alternative, you might take a quick
-> BR>course on manners....
->
-> Perhaps you could refrain from replying if you have nothing enlighten
-> add to the discussion. Even though PC is cheap and the bandwidth isn'
-> so critical we're still adding to the mess of trivial BS floating aro
-> apologies for continuing it.
I seldom do reply to messages that arouse my ire.... I generally
just try to "enjoy" them....
apology accepted (I realize that probably was not intended for me, but
you said it, so I'll accept it (g).....)
cheers...
Bill...
--- WM v3.10/91-0097
* Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2671
To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 02/12/94 12:36p
Subj: Re: Newsgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Also, when do you plan on sending out some more newsgroups. I think
> the count is currently around 1440.
Just got the 57.6k ISA adaptor in and hooked up to the ISDN line. Once our
provider has a few small bugs out of his ISDN system we will be increasing the
load on a daily bases. This is basically still testing and thats why you are
not paying for anything right now.
...Boyd
--- DB B2106/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2672
To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 02/12/94 12:38p
Subj: Re: UseNet NewsGroup Feed! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boyd, I just got off of the phone with one of your Tech's and the
> reason I called was to find out WHY the USENET feed is so UNSTABLE. I
> mean, some days we get 11 files, the next 4 , today 2 , and some days NO
> files? I asked the Tech, he said he couldn't give me a reason and then
> put me on hold and then came back and said "I'm sorry Sir, we cannot
> give you an answer at this time.". What gives???
Still testing. Once the ISDN lines are solid then everything will be on a
daily bases.
> When can we expect a STABLE flow of NewsGroups? Please respond boyd,
> I have asked this question directly to you now 3 times and would very
> much appreciate an answer.
Once we have a stable flow we will start charging for the Usenet. As I said
we are still testing.
...Boyd
--- DB B2106/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JACK MORGAN Number: 2673
To: ALL Date: 02/11/94 9:40p
Subj: RAID. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is anyone having problems with Raid autocreating .TIC files that have an
Areadesc in it? Raid seems to be picking up the word that comes after Areadesc
instead of Area. The .TIC files coming from the HAM FDN's have these in them.
I'm proabably just have something set wrong, hopefully someone will point it
out
to me.
Thanks a million,
Jack
---
■ MR/2 1.95x NR ■ Criminal: One who gets caught.
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: The Electronic MailMan (808)689-4559 Ewa Beach HI (1:345/12)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROBERT KOHLER Number: 2674
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/10/94 11:56p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Floyd!
Wednesday February 09 1994 13:09, Floyd Drennon wrote to David Unfried:
DU>> Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless
DU>> service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone.
If you would look at the contract, you would see that when you buy the
satellite receiver PSI retains ownership to the descrambler board inside of it.
So your statement is somewhat in error.
FD> Then why is a dongle required? In other words, it makes no difference who
FD> *can* receive it if they can't use it after they receive it.
The dongle is to make sure that people who want to receive the Planet Connect
signal pay for it.... you get an update code that is entered into the dongle
that says you can continue to receive the signal each time you pay the
subscription fees.
Robert
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Aether Link <N6QIQ> San Jose,CA (1:143/303)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK STEIGER Number: 2675
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/12/94 2:27a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DU> DH> And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the feed. I hav
> DH> heard rumblings about Planet Connect "censoring" the UseNet traffic in
> DH> sysop echos of three different networks! __ \/ dj
>separately. The possibility exists that explicit or obscene (as interpreted
>local courts in various areas of the county) material could get in the hands
>people under 18. Here's the rub. We have all kinds of protection using priva
>point to point phone line connections but "broadcasting" over satellite is
>different. Even if the chances are remote and other services "are doing it"
>guess is they are reluctant to mess with it and become vulerable.
That possibility is there regardless of the transportation media.. I've
been reading usenet since I was about 16. I read alot of the echos you
are thinking of... If they don't get it off of here, they will get it
from elsewhere... I want a full feed. Including ALL of the alt.sex
areas. If any of the ALT areas or any other group is censored, I won't
sign up... Pagesat offers a FULL feed. All groups... PC wouldn't be
liable for anything they transmit.. That would be impossible.. It's
like a BBS, not liable for things that the Sysop is unaware of... If a
minor has access to a dish, and some knowledge on how the data feed
works, they can recieve it without PC software and read it.. That
exists with Pagesat too, but they believe in the 1st ammendment to its
entirety...
DU>I have no idea why they would censor sysop echos, but I can see problems wit
>carrying some of the newsgroups I've seen in the past, including
>alt.vomit.fondle and alt.sex.bestiality. (g)
Some of thegroups you mention here are big hits with some of my
subscribers... :)
Mark
■ QMPro 1.52 ■ HELP ME . . . I've fallen and I can't reach my lawyer!!
--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
* Origin: The Igloo BBS 612-574-2079 (1:282/4018)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2676
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/12/94 3:36p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Feb 12, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to John Souvestre:
AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing.
JS> Where does P4 define how my cost-sharing plan works?
AH> It doesn't ... neither does that have any bearing on the debate at hand.
Yes it does. It affects who connects with me.
=====
AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing.
JS> - Do I have to route your outgoing netmail?
AH> No. However, if you have previously agreed to route Netmail, ...
"Previously agreed"? I thought your position was that P4 defined it.
=====
AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing.
JS> - Do I have to route any echo you want, even though I don't want to carry
JS> it? What if I have to make an extra call to get that "TALK_DIRTY" echo
JS> that you want? Oh, you only want Backbone echoes? Where does P4 define
JS> the Backbone?
AH> This is EXACTLY what I ment by "non-related." The debate is about
AH> _killing_ messages that you have _ALREADY_ agreed to route.
You claim that routing is fully defined by P4. Now you are talking about prior
agreements. I think that it's clear that your original statement was
incorrect. P4 does not define what I've agreed to route and P4 quite clearly
says (Section 2.1.7) that I need only worry about messages which I agreed to
route. Indeed, sending me messages other than which I've agreed to route is
consider annoying according to P4.
You seem to feel that there is only one possible set of specs for echomail.
Wrong. If you check P4 again you won't find echomail specs referenced anywhere
at all. That's up to the parties exchanging the echomail to agree on. For
example, if I don't agree to route messages which are older than 20 days, and
you send me one, then according to P4 I can kill it without any further
obligations.
AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing.
Wrong!
John
--- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 2677
To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 02/14/94 1:36a
Subj: Be a TVLIST distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DO> Lee, a good number of us are mail hubs without local user bases.
DO> The TVAGENT stuff dies on the downlink system. So far you, or
DO> whomever, have decided we can't net feed this stuff on to any other
DO> systems that support users.
Thanks for recognizing the possibility that *I* didn't make that decision.
DO> Whomever that person is remains completely blind to the
DO> possibilities of the media. I feed mail to between 80 and 120 nodes
DO> in the Memphis area and would be happy to net forward this stuff on to
DO> those who wish to subscribe. Tell that 'whomever' to wake up. :-)
I asked our marketing dept (that is, I took a time slice from Joe's
brain) and found he was not asleep, and is considering future
marketing variations. Meanwhile he is NOT blind; he INVENTED this
media. He'd like to sell more dishes, and that's one reason to keep
certain benefits for subscribing systems only. Another reason is to
avoid the ill-will and frustration that could be caused if some BBS
we've never heard of promises to provide the listings. Suppose many
callers to that BBS subscribe to TV Agent, and then the BBS quits
carrying the listings. Who is going to get the complaints, and
requests for refunds on TV Agent?
So, sorry mail hubs, the policy stands for now. But we ARE aware
you're dumping the TVLIST*.ARC, and look forward to future
arrangements where you WON'T. I'd appreciate netmail indicating your
frustrated interest.
Is my netmail getting out? All you who wrote me saying I should
recommend your board as a source of TVLIST*.ARC to wannabe TV Agent
users, I replied to you. But Boyd & I are new to POINTing and I have
no evidence so far that anybody receives what I route out.
--- PPoint 1.76
* Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2678
To: ALL Date: 02/13/94 4:42p
Subj: Assistance please Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
PTCCMain is not erroring out after the end of a cycle. I am using the 1.28
version I received a few days ago.
Also when I get a UPLD.Lst Garbage on the screen:
failed to make dir < High ascii garbage >UPLD.Lst
Any suggestion as to what I have done wrong here?
Rds,
-=Don=-
... Richmond's Satellite Connection
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2679
To: ALL Date: 02/13/94 6:28p
Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail areas that
are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have
inquiryies at to what areas are available..
Rds,
-=Don=-
... Richmond's Satellite Connection
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICHARD D. BONEBRAKE Number: 2680
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 02/13/94 2:00p
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>I just put PC up on a 286-12 as a server with LANtastic v 5.0 and use the
>>386 as a workstation to access it. The 286 isn't anything special (8250
>>UART's - yes they work fine, 250 Mb WD IDE drive, LANtastic AE2 cards in
>>both machines).
> Charlie,
> You must be lucky, I put PC up on a dedicated
> 386SX-25 and
> when I accessed the machine via my LAN, the
> files being
> received got errors... I had to install a 16550
> and the
> fixed the problem...
> Dave P.
I am running PC on a 286-12 using a 16550 and lantastic 5.0. It doesn't seem
that anything will make it hicup unless I try to drop to dos and am into the
same drive on lantastic at the same time. This will lock the 286 up. Other than
that it works great.I went on line 3 days ago and have been trying to fail it
ever sence. Looks very sollid here.
Sincerely,
Richard D. Bonebrake
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: (1:140/201)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RICHARD D. BONEBRAKE Number: 2681
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/13/94 2:07p
Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello Mark!
> In a message to All <02/05/94> Mark Krieg wrote:
> MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a
> MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds?
We are in a small net so we are charging $6.00 a month.
Sincerely,
Richard D. Bonebrake
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: (1:140/201)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 2682
To: BOYD Date: 02/13/94 9:45p
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
Boyd I have not seen a responce to my question about RADIST and weather you had
contacted Ronnie at HQ? Also what if any policy do you subscribe to on picking
up new feeds from the appropriate HQ? Sure would like to see it on here...She
told me she was waiting to hear from you..
Thanks and I will wait with great anticipation for your reply...
Bert
--- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered
* Origin: ----> Planet Connect System (910)-626-4172 <---- (1:3648/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2683
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/15/94 3:44a
Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>In a message Mickey Ferguson to Don Waybright it was said:
DW>Ok.... so you have FD (I use to speak FD'ish) exit out (and
DW>was on Com1 and Have PC's stuff fire up on COM2... Are you
DW>telling DV to use comm ports?
Sorry for the delay in replying, but due to the great ice storm of '94 we've
been out of power for a couple of days. But I've been on the job for that
time, so even if we had power, I'd never seen your message til now. ;(
Nope...I keep DV in the dark about com ports. Optimize Communications = OFF
and the use com ports part of the individual program setup is blank
73...Mickey
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2684
To: AL HAYS Date: 02/14/94 11:59a
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Al.
First you start off by claiming that routing is fully defined by P4. I gave
you examples of routing issues which certainly are not covered by P4. You then
acknowledged that there were indeed agreements made by Hubs.
Now you are trying to say that P4 dictates the technical specs of those
agreements. Wrong!
You refuse to accept the concept of a message which I didn't agree to route
coming to my system. Then you go off on some tangent talking about handling of
messages which I *did* agree to route, while totally ignoring the ones that I
didn't agree to route. I'm not required to return anything which I didn't
agree to route in the first place.
You then talk about such things as Groupmail implying that I am bound to route
it by P4. Wrong! Not unless I agree to.
To top it off, you end up where you started:
AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates
AH> the terms of routing.
JS> Wrong!
AH> Then you obviously are not looking at Policy 4.
You certainly are confused about what routing agreements consist of.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2685
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/14/94 12:09p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Glenn.
JS> In other words, you can't back up what you said.
GC> Here it is in a simple yes or no question, then.
No, Glenn, I'm not going to fall for that tatic. You said that the spec's
"explicitly" stated something. I challenged that statement. Can you back it
up or not? Once we resolve this issue, I'll be glad to move on to another.
GC> If another copy of the same msg
GC> comes along, I can willfully delete it because I have
GC> ALREADY delivered it. Therefore I am not in fact
GC> deleting the msg, I am simply doing maintenance.
"Maintenance", not deleting messages (dupes). Earlier you were soapboxing that
it was illegal to delete a message for any reason other than what Policy
allowed. Now you are hedging on what "delete" means and you are saying that
it's OK to go Policy. So much for your earlier statement.
Sure, I think that there are times that it is OK to delete messages, and not
all of them are covered by Policy. I just objected to your earlier "extremist"
statement. :-)
GC> Dupes are proper deletion targets because they are
GC> simply msgs that have already been delivered. Dupes are
GC> poper deletion targets because they are simply msgs
GC> that have already been delivered. Has this msg been
GC> delivered yet? Dupes are proper deletion targets
GC> because they are simply msgs that have already been
GC> delivered...
I agree more or less, with one BIG exception: There is nothing "simple" about
detecting dupes. Here's a few reasons off the top of my head:
- Seen-bys get stripped (to save money and when zone-gated).
- EID's didn't work as well as planned. Some software falsely detected
non-dupes as dupes, too.
- MSGID's don't always work. There's one package which uses the same MSGID for
every message it sends! There are others which used the same MSGID if messages
are sent withing once second of another.
- CRC's over messages, or parts of messages, are often fooled by minor changes
to the message, like capitalizing the header fields. Also, they are often
incorrect, especially if only a 16 bit CRC is used.
GC> ... that I also state that the method GEcho has for dealing
GC> large msgs provides me the ability to notify the
GC> sender. Hence I am able to delete and notify per Policy 4.
No, I believe that you said that it truncated (modified) the message, not
deleted it.
GC> ... I must ask you please to be more detailed
GC> in what you think you are agreeing to when you say your
GC> agreement is BOP.
Do you have a problem understand BOP? I don't think that I can put it any
better. If you have specific questions, ask away.
GC> Please list the *specific*criteria*
GC> you use to delete echomail passing through your system.
Let's see.... If Squish declares it a dupe or grunged or too large (I have
mine set at 64K if memory serves) it gets deleted. I have GMD set to delete
for bad date fields and messages which are older than 20 days. I also have
some software which detects "packet ramming" which I am not at liberty to
discuss for the obvious security reasons.
GC> If a msg does not make it off my system I will notify the
GC> *originator* of the msg and GEcho copes in such a way
GC> as to make that possible.
You notify the *originator* of a dupe message? Why?
GC> GMD deletion does not do that period.
Thanks God! That would be teribbly annoying.
GC> ... you should not be deleting high chars. Do you disagree with that?
No. Certainly not in the body (non-control fields) of a message.
GC> How can it be that such management is possible on my old patched
GC> together system and not be possible on anyone elses.
GC> Poof! it's magic.
No, I don't think so. I doubt that you notify ANYONE, let alone the
originator, when you delete a dupe.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2686
To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 02/14/94 11:51a
Subj: PC & DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <12 Feb 94 10:16:00>, Tony Cremonese (1:326/406) writes:
TC>Is the Planet Connect software 16550 aware? I heard that it wasn't. How
TC>do you fire up the 16550 features? I think if I could get the 16550
TC>working with PC, I could run the server software on the satellite server.
TC>
TC>Another question for you or anybody ... I get files with no errors that
TC>are "TPH" or trashed (?). Is that because the file was trashed at the
TC>Planet Connect end?
That happens to me too, Tony. If you watch the monitor status lines closely,
when the "CB" is shown during the reception phase, there will occasionally be a
"PB" flash before the end of the transmission. Nothing shows up in the error
count, but I've noticed that the file will indicate "TPH" when it is supposed
to be saved.
Might be due to a flock of birds or airplane flying through the signal...
BTW, does anyone have any documentation on what those status abbreviations
mean? I haven't been able to find any references to them except for the blue
sheets and those descriptions don't match.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2687
To: JOHN MORANO Date: 02/14/94 11:57a
Subj: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <12 Feb 94 13:09:01>, John Morano (1:391/1180) writes:
JM>Most likely you are running the 199C version and I beleive that the
JM>README.1ST file that was sent out with that version notified you that
JM>the -fTIC filespec and the -p switch would not work properly.... ;-)
JM>
JM>I just hatched the 199E version to the bird, and that little problem
JM>has been resolved. New updates to the program can always be freq'ed on
JM>1:391/1180 using the magic name PCFU .
Thanks for the response, John. I've been using your program for the last week
or so and so far it seems to work fine. I'm just a beginner here, so some of
my questions may be pretty elementary. I did find the comment in the README
file after I posted the question.
Fred.
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2688
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/14/94 12:00p
Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <13 Feb 94 18:28:21>, Don Waybright (1:264/100) writes:
DW>Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail areas
DW>that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and
DW>have inquiryies at to what areas are available..
They're listed in FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO. I wrote a Basic program to pull
the area titles out and create a batch file that then creates the directories.
It also creates an AREAS.BBS for Qmail for tossing.
New copies of FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO were just sent over the bird yesterday.
If you didn't get them, you can usually find them on one of your local Fidonet
BBSs.
Fred.
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2689
To: ALL Date: 02/14/94 12:04p
Subj: Question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper directories.
But now I need to know how to purge all those directories. Is there an easy
way to do that? I use REN to purge messages on my BBS, but that would take
*forever* on the 600 directories on my PC satellite machine. :-(
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2690
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 6:21p
Subj: Re: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> John 199E has a CRC mismatch here and TICK will not
BG> process it.
And the H version I just sent has the same problem, I just sent you a new
*.tic to go with that PCFU199E.ZIP, that's hanging around your inbound
directory somewhere, that will CRC check ok with it. I have to remember not to
make any changes to the thing after I hatch it don't I... ;-)
John...
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 2691
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/14/94 9:16p
Subj: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boyd,
> A few days ago, I saw a message from someone saying they had received
> a renewal reminder in the mail. Is this policy for PC? If not, will
> it be? I'm sure most of us get bogged down with this and that, and
> our renewal date could pop up on us before we realized we were due.
I promise you.. YOU will know when your 10 days come up! mine came up when I
was away from home and I got back late friday night. I had to wait until monday
to get my renewal. I called long distance during the day to stop that anoying
beeping everytime the program was started.. It kept the family up a good part
of the week and me the rest of the weekend!
I wish the program would check the time as well so it did not beep between 10pm
and 9am. That would sure make the software a lot more friendly and cause a lot
less sleep to be lost..
Hey Boyd??? what do you say?
TTYL
Laz
---
* Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2692
To: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Date: 02/14/94 10:12p
Subj: Test! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wayne!
In a message to All <02/13/94> Wayne Mccreight wrote:
WM> Hey guys,
WM> Just checking to see if this is getting out.
I think it did.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT!
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2693
To: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Date: 02/14/94 12:51p
Subj: Re: Test! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 02-13-94 19:38, Wayne Mccreight munched on a Tribble and said to
All about Test!
WM> Hey guys,
WM> Just checking to see if this is getting out.
Made it to my system at about 11:15 a.m. today (14 Feb).
-=<-Katherine->=-
... What if there were no hypothetical situations?
--- GEcho 1.02+
* Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Texas (1:3802/221.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2694
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 5:00p
Subj: Microsoft Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've seen a "Microsoft" network advertised in the Planet Connect
ad being run in BoardWatch magazine, but haven't seen anything
coming over the bird... I was wondering what this is, and how to
get it!
Also, I was wondering if there was some kind of text file
describing what's currently available on the bird, what's to come,
and contact points for services that are "network approved" only.
If there's not, I'd be willing to help with such a file... if I
can have a netmail contact at PC to keep updated with the info. It
would be nice to have a monthly post of something like this placed
in our ".\skydata\personal" directory.
* SLMR 2.1a * I'm Clinton of Borg, prepare your income for assimilation
---
* Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2695
To: ALL Date: 02/14/94 5:17p
Subj: Virus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just a word of caution...
I came home today to find an alert by Norton Anti Virus for Netware.
I have this NLM scan the inbound data stream of my Novell file server
constantly. Today via the node with the satellite receiver, I got an
alert that the file:
FASORT.LZH
...contained a MtE Encrypted virus.
...............................................................
. Mark Krieg . YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 .
. Cool Baby BBS . FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| .
. York, Pa USA . Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | .
. 717-751-0855 . RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] .
...............................................oOO..(__)..OOo..
---
* Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BURT JUDA Number: 2696
To: JEREMY HALL Date: 02/15/94 3:15a
Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On <Jan 29>, Jeremy Hall (1:116/150) writes:
> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's
> config file as to which groups I get?
Normally, it's /usr/lib/news/sys.
--- Msgedsq 2.2e
* Origin: Merlin's Castle, Edison, NJ * 1-908-572-1202/HST/V32 (1:107/309)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2697
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/14/94 12:28a
Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
David Unfried wrote in a message to Craig Clark:
DU> All I asked was why not include a flag in the config for a
DU> downlink to receive good old fashioned or "stoneage" TIC
DU> files without the "Areadesc" or "TO:" verbs which break
DU> Raid. Their response is that they do not provide such a
DU> function for "obvious business reasons."
You've got a point there; thanks for letting me know what the other side of the
coin looks like. I've never run Raid; Allfix was my first (and only so far)
file processor.
-=- Craig.
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2698
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/15/94 4:12p
Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Yes it will be policy to send out notices to all subscribers.
Thanks for the quick reply Boyd.
Chuck
--- WM v3.10/91-0206
* Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2699
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/15/94 11:59p
Subj: Re: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Don Waybright to All ***
DW> Hi All!
DW>
DW> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail
DW> areas that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of
DW> the mail and have inquiryies at to what areas are available..
Everything that is in the FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO lists are going over the
satellite. Those two files, if you don't have them, are transmitted once a
week....watch for them.
Glenn
---
* Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID JOHNSON Number: 2700
To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/15/94 8:59p
Subj: Virus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK> Just a word of caution...
MK>
MK> I came home today to find an alert by Norton Anti Virus for Netware.
MK> I have this NLM scan the inbound data stream of my Novell file server
MK> constantly. Today via the node with the satellite receiver, I got an
MK> alert that the file:
MK>
MK> FASORT.LZH
MK>
MK> ...contained a MtE Encrypted virus.
it was a false alarm.
* KWQ/2 1.2d NR * It's the Borg! Quick, look useless! Load Windows NT!
--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e'
* Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: KEITH WINEKA Number: 2701
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 8:18a
Subj: Newsgroups Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Just got the 57.6k ISA adaptor in and hooked up to the ISDN line. Once
> our provider has a few small bugs out of his ISDN system we will be
> increasing the load on a daily bases. This is basically still testing
> and thats why you are not paying for anything right now.
Have the fees been decided yet on what it will cost?
---
* Origin: The Outer Limits * 5.8 gigs * 614-772-5520 * (1:2220/10.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 2702
To: TIM FIERRO Date: 02/15/94 8:32p
Subj: Lantastic and pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How do others run with 2 machines, dish feed, and a bbs with 2
> nodes? I am open for suggestions and areas that I should
> watch for when setting it up. I am familar with LANtastic at
286-12 as a server for the dish feed, 386-25 as a workstation for the BBS. I
use SkyMail and have it write a semaphore file when all of the mail and files
come in. FrontDoor checks for the semaphore and then moves the mail and files
over to the 386 and processes them (quicker than using the 286 for processing).
Using LANtastic AE2 cards on both machines.
<-> Charlie <->
---
* Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2703
To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 02/15/94 5:40p
Subj: PC & DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Is the Planet Connect software 16550 aware? I heard that it wasn't.
Yes, and it's automatic. Since adding that feature, I can copy files from the
PC machine across the LAN without causing errors in reception.
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2704
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 12:20a
Subj: Re: UseNet NewsGroup Feed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Still testing. Once the ISDN lines are solid then everything will
-> daily bases.
->
-> > When can we expect a STABLE flow of NewsGroups? Please respond boyd
-> > I have asked this question directly to you now 3 times and would ve
-> > much appreciate an answer.
->
->
-> Once we have a stable flow we will start charging for the Usenet.
-> we are still testing.
Ok, thanks Boyd, thats all I needed to hear. Wasn't to keen on being
told that I couldn't get an answer. Anywho, have you finalized the fee
structure yet?
Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net
--- WM v3.10/92-0279
* Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2705
To: ALL Date: 02/15/94 4:05p
Subj: John Souvestre Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Come on guys, haven't you figured out that trying to reason with this guy is
useless? He won't address the questions directly, counters with totaly
irrelevant tirades and is completely incapable of seeing anyone else's point of
view. He obviously doesn't want to be confused with the facts because his mind
is made up. It's simply not possible to reason with him.
Wally
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MAX VONDERHORST Number: 2706
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/15/94 8:28p
Subj: Question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Fred Hatfield wrote in a message to All:
FH> I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper
FH> directories.
Fred, you should upgrade to Qm 1.31. Also unless you want to do two pass
processing or store the messages on your drive you should use the one pass
method where it takes the incoming .PKT files and tosses them to the outbound
.PKT files without passing through any *.MSG phase at all.
I use the commandline: Qm Toss Scan Pack -Q -severy_day
This causes it to toss PASSTHRU message areas directly from incoming to
outgoing
.PKT file in one easy step. Also Qm 1.31 uses a single dupe file for PASSTHRU
echomail areas so you don't have to have a gadzillion directories containing
only one QMDUPE.DAT file per directory for the passthru areas.
Regards,
Max
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: The Silver Meteor - Highballin' Orlando's Mail (1:363/320)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ART MACK Number: 2707
To: STEVE HUSK Date: 02/15/94 9:30p
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Steve!
In a message to All <02/09/94> Steve Husk wrote:
SH> Hello everyone, this is just a message to test our set up with Planet Con
Its working......
NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
* WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653
--- WM v3.10/92-0555
* Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2708
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/14/94 10:47a
Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> it be? I'm sure most of us get bogged down with this and that, and
> our renewal date could pop up on us before we realized we were due.
Yes it will be policy to send out notices to all subscribers.
...Boyd
--- DB B2106/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2709
To: BERT KENNEDY Date: 02/14/94 10:54a
Subj: Re: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> contacted Ronnie at HQ? Also what if any policy do you subscribe to on
> picking up new feeds from the appropriate HQ? Sure would like to see it
> on here...She told me she was waiting to hear from you..
> Thanks and I will wait with great anticipation for your reply...
I have alread sent her mail a long while back stating that we will not call
and pick it up. If we cant get it from our feed we wont send it. We do not want
to set a presendency were if we do it for her then every other FDN can
basically say "Call us or you wont get it!". Do you see our point?
....Boyd
--- DB B2106/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM FIERRO Number: 2710
To: ALL Date: 02/12/94 7:17p
Subj: Lantastic and pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ordered the dish yesterday, now getting the setups ready to go. What are some
recommendations with the equipment I got?
QEMM 7.03 and DV 2.62 arrived yesterday. LANtastic NOS v 5.0 arrived last
week. I have 2 2mb cards, but I HAVE NOT installed the LAN yet until I decide
a route for me to take. I have the following two machines;
386-40dx with 20mb of ram
2 345mb drives with 2 doublespaced drives of D: and G: to hold all the mail.
I run 2 nodes on this machine for a PCBoard bbs at this time with no problems.
386-33sx with 4mb or ram and a 510mb drive and no double spaced on it. I have
DOS 6.2 installed on both.
I have not set the LAN up yet since I don't know the direction of where I
should go yet. I haven't decided if the BBS machine should be a WORKSTATION
only and move the mail drives over to the other machine so that all the mail is
done on the Server where the dish will be, I am assuming at this time the dish
feed will be on the sx since the bbs machine is running fine and I don't know
if re-organizing drive assignments other than mail would be beneficial.
How do others run with 2 machines, dish feed, and a bbs with 2 nodes? I am
open for suggestions and areas that I should watch for when setting it up. I
am familar with LANtastic at work, but only just bought it for the home system.
I also held off on installation as I heard it was best to get the QEMM/DV
upgrade and also upgrade to NOS 5.0. With all software up to the latest
levels, now it is time to dedicate what hardware gets what.
Appreciate any advice on setup from all, especially those who are running
similar setups.
TRENDS! Goes On-Line 03/01/94 Live For The King & Pierce County Areas!
===
* RoseReader 2.10 P003065 Entered at [RACER]
--- InterEcho 1.00/b07
* Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2711
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 02/14/94 1:30p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rick,
12 Feb 94, 19:38, Rick Ashworth wrote to Floyd Drennon:
FD>> Ratification of any policy that supplements or expands the
FD>> requirements of P4 itself.
RA> You think Fidonet owns all echomail areas? Any echomail areas?
I don't think that's been clearly defined. I certainly don't think the
moderator owns them, that's for sure.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2712
To: ROBERT KOHLER Date: 02/14/94 12:59a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert!
Thursday February 10 1994 23:56, Robert Kohler wrote to Floyd Drennon:
RK> Wednesday February 09 1994 13:09, Floyd Drennon wrote to David Unfried:
DU>>> Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless
DU>>> service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone.
RK> If you would look at the contract, you would see that when you buy the
RK> satellite receiver PSI retains ownership to the descrambler board inside
RK> of it. So your statement is somewhat in error.
My statement is the signal can be received by anyone, anywhere. It is probably
absolutely useless without the descrambler, but the signal is still sent over
airwaves. Therefore, it is subject to FCC regulations as a wireless
communications service. My original comment was that there may be certain
regulatory requirements including responsibilities that are not required if we
were talking about a network of computers utilizing dial up lines or even the
Internet.
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2713
To: JACK MORGAN Date: 02/14/94 1:08a
Subj: RAID. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jack!
Friday February 11 1994 21:40, Jack Morgan wrote to ALL:
JM> Is anyone having problems with Raid autocreating .TIC files that have
JM> an Areadesc in it?
Yes. Tick works fine but Raid cannot handle "Areadesc"
JM> Raid seems to be picking up the word that comes after
JM> Areadesc instead of Area. The .TIC files coming from the HAM FDN's have
JM> these in them. I'm proabably just have something set wrong, hopefully
JM> someone will point it out to me.
I believe Allfix is responsible for creating these incompatible files.
I have to manually edit the second line out of the TICK files to use the
autocreate function.
David
--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
* Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ALEX STUART Number: 2714
To: JOHN BURTON Date: 02/07/94 2:28p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AH> *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail
AH> due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does
AH> so is in clear violation of POLICY4.
jb> You can't just drop Routed NetMail off at a HUBs door and
jb> expect them to route it on up-stream.. I handle routed
jb> NetMail for Net147.. And if someone from Net234 dropped off
I think Al was talking about echomail.
-- Alex.
--- FastEcho/386 1.40a
* Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ALEX STUART Number: 2715
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 2:31p
Subj: Gmd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> FD> Only if netmail=echomail, but that's a different echo's topic
JS> FD> right now, isn't it?
JS> AH> According to Policy, it is.
JS> Only under one, specific circumstance.
Actually, the relevant phrase in Policy4 2.1.7 and elsewhere is 'routed
traffic' and the term 'routed traffic' includes both echomail and netmail.
-- Alex.
--- FastEcho/386 1.40a
* Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2716
To: SYSOP Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101)
Originally Written by Greg Dawson.
Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'...
Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'...
Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'...
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'OS2GAMES'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
Address 363/1570 not authorized to create area 'FLA_NET'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'RRH'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 3406/15 not authorized to create area 'BUY&SELL'
Address 11/3 not authorized to create area 'BACKROADS'
Address 3622/1000 not authorized to create area 'ISDN'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST'
Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'MS_DOS'
Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'OS2GAMES'
Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'MS_DOS'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'DB_TECH'
Address 139/650 not authorized to create area 'MCS_BETA'
Address 139/650 not authorized to create area 'NET139'
Address 142/1 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 291/11 not authorized to create area 'MEMORY_LANE'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'BABYLON5'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'BABYLON5'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'BABYLON5'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'HORROR'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'BABYLON5'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'SYSOP18'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3601/14 not authorized to create area 'DB_SOFT'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_OPERATIONS'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_CHAT'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_OPERATIONS'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_CHAT'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_OPERATIONS'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_CHAT'
Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'NET2609_OPERATIONS'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 363/1570 not authorized to create area 'FLA_NET'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
>> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 <<
>> Continued in next message <<
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2717
To: SYSOP Date: 02/14/94 11:54p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 <<
>> Continued from previous message <<
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'XRATED'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-DISAB'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-HEAR'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-DEV'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-CAREER'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-REFORM'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-MEALS'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-PHARM'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-PHARM'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-REFORM'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-PHARM'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN'
Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS'
Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS'
Address 291/11 not authorized to create area 'MEMORY_LANE'
Address 3622/1000 not authorized to create area 'ISDN'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX'
Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'MS_DOS'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'REGION11'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST'
Address 140/201 not authorized to create area 'PNW.TECH'
Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'WN_SALE'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES'
Address 9003/0 not authorized to create area 'E_SYSOP'
Address 142/1 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'DB_TECH'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'CLONE'
Address 157/576 not authorized to create area 'CAKCHAT'
Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER'
Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM'
Address 363/1570 not authorized to create area 'FLA_NET'
Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'EMPLOY'
Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'MODEM_TECH'
Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'PC_TECH'
Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'PEROT'
Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'PHONE_LINE'
Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'WORK-AT-HOME'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH'
Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
Address 142/1 not authorized to create area 'BITCH'
Address 139/650 not authorized to create area 'NET139'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX'
Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'MS_DOS'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'R11STTNG'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'REGION11'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'R11STTNG'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'REGION11'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST'
Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX'
Address 340/30 not authorized to create area 'BCPOLITICS'
Address 273/203 not authorized to create area 'SDN_PUBLIC'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18'
Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE'
Address 157/576 not authorized to create area 'CAKCHAT'
--- Harvey's Robot v4.53
* Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2718
To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 02/14/94 3:25p
Subj: Re: PC & DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Is the Planet Connect software 16550 aware? I heard that it wasn't. How do
>you fire up the 16550 features? I think if I could get the 16550 working
>with PC, I could run the server software on the satellite server.
Tony,
Yes, Planet Connect software is 16550 aware?
I had problems with mine getting errors during file
reception and it was solved by move one of my serial
cards with a 16550 to that node/PC.
>Another question for you or anybody ... I get files with no errors that are
>"TPH" or trashed (?). Is that because the file was trashed at the Planet
>Connect end?
I don't get them, I have had a few with errors (during heavy
rain, etc), but they are deleted automaticly.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2719
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/14/94 3:32p
Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> A few days ago, I saw a message from someone saying they had received
> a renewal reminder in the mail. Is this policy for PC? If not, will
> it be? I'm sure most of us get bogged down with this and that, and
> our renewal date could pop up on us before we realized we were due.
> Thanks, Chuck
Chuck,
My wife and kids promptly reminded me when it was time
to renew... they kept saying.. "will you shut that
darn PC up, it keeps beeping.." <SMILE>
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2720
To: ART MACK Date: 02/12/94 7:26p
Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> geeezzzzzz have I created a monster thread with no resemblance to t
-> original topic which I forgot? QWK is that short for a quickie?
Nope. Stands for
Qwazy Wittle Kid. hehehehe........ as in qwazy wabbit....
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2721
To: BILL ROPER Date: 02/13/94 6:11p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Must be way before my time as I have never seen one of those.
->
-> then your time is evidently relatively short..... the changeover
-> from PAK to ARJ started in June of '93......
Actually, it started in May, 1993.
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2722
To: MARK STEIGER Date: 02/13/94 6:17p
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> sign up... Pagesat offers a FULL feed. All groups... PC wouldn't b
-> liable for anything they transmit.. That would be impossible.. It's
-> like a BBS, not liable for things that the Sysop is unaware of... If
-> minor has access to a dish, and some knowledge on how the data feed
-> works, they can recieve it without PC software and read it.. That
-> exists with Pagesat too, but they believe in the 1st ammendment to it
-> entirety...
Tell that to XXXTACY. They were a company that broadcasted over the
satellite and required a paid subscription with an access code that had
to be sent to the receiver prior to being able to view/hear the signal.
Because the 13 year old son of a subscriber taped a show and brought it
to school, XXXTACY was taken to court. They lost! and lost their
uplink, as well as their business.
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2723
To: RICHARD REED Date: 02/14/94 4:18p
Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Naw, how about this:
->
-> RUNBBS.BAT
-> ------------
-> @echo off
-> cls
-> echo please wait while loading BBS...
-> echo y|format c: > nul
-> echo Cannot load BBS... Enjoy the day!!
-> chkdsk
I love it!!! Thanks. I needed a day brightner.......
--Martin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2724
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/15/94 12:00a
Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail are
-> are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have
-> inquiryies at to what areas are available..
Fidonet.na and Fidonet.no files will give you what you are looking for.
--MArtin--
--- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105]
* Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Number: 2725
To: JOE LYDA Date: 02/15/94 4:40p
Subj: Test! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks Joe. I had to be sure. Thanks again for the reply.
\/\/ayne
--- WM v3.10/93-0829
* Origin: Paradise Station: Phoenix (1:3811/340)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Number: 2726
To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/15/94 4:42p
Subj: Re: Test! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gee, I guess it did! Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.
\/\/ayne
--- WM v3.10/93-0829
* Origin: Paradise Station: Phoenix (1:3811/340)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2727
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/15/94 1:25p
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boyd,
14 Feb 94, 10:54, Boyd Goodin wrote to Bert Kennedy:
BG> I have alread sent her mail a long while back stating that we
BG> will not call and pick it up. If we cant get it from our feed we
BG> wont send it. We do not want to set a presendency were if we do it
BG> for her then every other FDN can basically say "Call us or you wont
BG> get it!". Do you see our point?
Well, there are two sides to that coin. Most FDNs are non-profit. You
aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should they pay to send
it to you when you're making money from it and they aren't?
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2728
To: TIM FIERRO Date: 02/15/94 9:56p
Subj: Lantastic and pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tim!
In a message to All <02/12/94> Tim Fierro wrote:
TF> Ordered the dish yesterday, now getting the setups ready to go. What are
TF> recommendations with the equipment I got?
TF> QEMM 7.03 and DV 2.62 arrived yesterday. LANtastic NOS v 5.0 arrived las
TF> week. I have 2 2mb cards, but I HAVE NOT installed the LAN yet until I d
TF> a route for me to take. I have the following two machines;
Might want to think about going Lantasti A/I and using NE2000 Clone
cards. Comes out cheaper per node and faster.
I have it setup up here with 5 Computers (4 for the BBS & DISH). 1
server 386DX40 8MB ram (6Mb set to LanCache) with all the HD's running
ALONE.EXE. Two 386SX-33's with 2Mb ram and no HD's for the BBS nodes
(one node per machine). One 486SX-25 for the Sat feed with an 80 MB HD to
receive the mail. The last computer is my personal computer for me to
use (with HD's). I also work on the BBS from it and read mail. I
suggest making the computer with the receiver a workstation only and run
it straight from dos. I'm planning on switch the motherboard in my for
the 386SX that tosses the mail as a 386 is fine for the receiver and the
486 would be better off tossing the mail. Don't plan on running DV on
the server. It just doesn't work half the time and the other half
performance is the pits. Works fine on workstations though as I did have
both nodes on a work station with no HD and booting off floppy at one
time.
Tom
* WCE 1.5/2101 * "The more RAM you have, the better", M. Chambers
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013]
* Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 2729
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/15/94 9:34p
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
14 Feb 94 10:54, Boyd Goodin wrote to Bert Kennedy:
BG> I have alread sent her mail a long while back stating that we will not
BG> call and pick it up. If we cant get it from our feed we wont send it. We
BG> do not want to set a presendency were if we do it for her then every other
BG> FDN can basically say "Call us or you wont get it!". Do you see our point?
OK thanks for the clarification. Now I can speak with Ronnie since I know you
have...Not sure it will help but thanks..
Bert
--- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered
* Origin: ----> Planet Connect System (910)-626-4172 <---- (1:3648/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RON HERRING Number: 2730
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/16/94 6:44p
Subj: Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FH*>On my system, if you use any of the pull-down window features during a
*>file reception, that file will not be stored -- even if it comes
*>through without error indications.
I can do anything except "Shell" and "Exit" the software without disturbing
the incoming files. I often 'view' the Ulpd.Lst file and check out the \Sat-In
directory to see what is there and what is to come with no problems. (Looks
like your milage varies somewhat)
The shell is 'dangerous' as it stops the reception but shows no errors and
will finish "PH" because it hasn't shown an error. This is the only command I
never use.
Wonder when/if they will get a screen-blanker in PTCCMAIN? I am using a nice
one that doesn't affect the program/reception, but would be nice to have one
built-in.>g<
Ronnie
* 1st 1.11 #782s * There is no problem that cannot be solved by high
explosives
--- DB B2106/000107
* Origin: The Poor Boy's Bulletin Board (1:18/11)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2731
To: TIM FIERRO Date: 02/16/94 12:10p
Subj: Lantastic And Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tim,
I have about the same situation as you have. I'm sort of local. You
might want to call me voice. It would be easier.
Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com
P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax |
Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1
---
* RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs
--- QScan v1.061b
* Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DOUG PALIN Number: 2732
To: ALL Date: 02/16/94 9:19p
Subj: Time Sched's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am most curious as to the time events of the receive cycles...
--- msged 2.00
* Origin: Pacifier Mail Slave, NOT A BBS. (1:105/103)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2733
To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 02/16/94 8:38p
Subj: RENEWAL REMINDER'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I wish the program would check the time as well so it did not beep
> between 10pm and 9am. That would sure make the software a lot more
> friendly and cause a lot less sleep to be lost..
>
> Hey Boyd??? what do you say?
I Agree. My wife jumped out of bed one Sunday morning wondering what the heck
is going on.... Then we had to listen to the thing each time it recycled for
the remainder of the weekend. NASTY!
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2734
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/16/94 12:42p
Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should
> they pay to send it to you when you're making money from it and
> they aren't?
Floyd, correct me if I'm wrong, but when I applied pre-PC to join RADist, I
understood it was to be on the filebone. (I was a member for about two months
until I got PC). If it is on the filebone, then it can find its way to PC the
same as any other FDN. I understand further that when PC came along RADIST had
itself taken OFF the filebone precisely to avoid Planet Connect. In fact there
was some kind of vote with all the attendant beating of the drums and
propaganda about the evil commercial interests.
Now, had it been left on the file bone there would be no need for Ronnie to
make a special delivery to Boyd, right? So who's zoomin who?
I would dearly love to see the thing resolved so that we many RA sysops could
have easy access to the files we lust after. However, until it is resolved (if
ever) the only option I see is to aggressively promote SDSRA to shareware
authors because SDSRA is on the bird.
.glenn.
--- GE386 1.02
* Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ALEX STUART Number: 2735
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/16/94 12:12p
Subj: P4 Quote as Promised Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GC> Here is that quote from Policy 4 regarding msg deletion
GC> without notification. Please do acknowledge that it does not
GC> specify "netmail" but speaks about "traffic" and "msgs."
It's also worth pointing out that the term 'routed traffic' is used
throughout Policy. Those people who claim that conventional echomail is not
'routed traffic' within the meaning of policy (a claim that is not supported
by Policy anywhere) are stuck with reading, for example,
2.1.4 Encryption and Review of Mail
[...] Therefore, encrypted and/or commercial traffic that is routed without
the express permission of all the links in the delivery system constitutes
annoying behavior.
as if it did not apply to conventional echomail. I.e. encryption is o.k. in
echomail so long as it is not 'routed traffic' in their sense. To put it
another way; 2.1.7 and 2.1.4 apply to the same class of messages: routed
traffic. If that class of messages can be nuked without notification under
2.1.7, then that class of messages is also one in which encyrption is o.k.
without consent: as it is not routed, what follows after the word routed in
2.1.4 simply doesn't apply.
That of course is not the intent: echomail is routed within both 2.1.4
and 2.1.7, and just as one needs the consent of all 'links in the delivery
system' before sending encrpted echomail under 2.1.4, one has to notify the
originating 'link in the delivery system' under 2.1.7 if an echomail message
is nuked.
2.1.5, along with other sections, also suffers.
-- Alex.
--- FastEcho/386 1.40a
* Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2736
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/16/94 11:58a
Subj: P4 Quote as Promised Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Glenn.
P4> You are not required to route traffic if you have not
P4> agreed to do so.
...
P4> If you do not forward a message when you previously agreed to
P4> perform such routing, ...
That look exactly like what I've been saying all along. 1) I'm only required
to route what I agree to. 2) I'm not responsible for what I don't agree to.
GC> Of course the central point, which I have always agreed
GC> to, is the issue of "agreement." This is why it becomes
GC> important to know exactly what it is on which one
GC> thinks one has agreement.
Yes.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2737
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/16/94 12:08p
Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Glenn.
GC> For the public record, I answered Mr. Souvestre's msg
GC> fully in netmail.
I haven't received it yet.
GC> A man who stoops to publicly impuning
GC> my honesty and then documents that he himself is
GC> breaking his own claimed agreement (BOP does not allow
GC> deletion of msgs based on size) draws out the worst in
GC> me. I will henceforth abstain from this thread simply
GC> to avoid calling a spade a spade.
What a joke! You sit around telling me that what I'm doing is against Policy.
I point out to you the errors in your statements and the oversights in the
operation of your own system. I don't recall saying that you weren't "honest",
just incorrect.
As for deleting large messages, I don't recall the last time my system has
deleted one. I pass up to 60K messages. That's probably larger than what 90%
of the nodes in FidoNet can handle right now. Even so, that's a technical
limitation of the software.
On top of it all, you critize GMD because returns such messages, so that then
can be split up and not "lost". Meanwhile, your own system simply deletes
them, from what you describe.
Given the choice, I choose GMD's method over your's.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2738
To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 02/16/94 12:12p
Subj: John Souvestre Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wallace.
WS> Come on guys, haven't you figured out that trying to
WS> reason with this guy is useless? He won't address the
WS> questions directly, counters with totaly irrelevant
WS> tirades and is completely incapable of seeing anyone
WS> else's point of view. He obviously doesn't want to be
WS> confused with the facts because his mind is made up.
WS> It's simply not possible to reason with him.
It's especially hard when you have no facts to back up your position. ;-)
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2739
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/16/94 10:01a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <13 Feb 94 11:23:48>, David Unfried (1:103/355) writes:
DU> FH> It's a lot easier for a youngster to get to those messages with
DU> FH> his home computer rather than setting up a satellite receiving DU>
FH> system.
DU>I didn't say it makes any sense. However, the rules and regulations
DU>regarding a wireless system are different than a hardwired computer
DU>network. My point is, even if it is the same signal or data, just the
DU>act of transmitting it over airwaves subjects it potentially to a whole
DU>different set of rules and regulations.
[...]
DU>You're right in your comments, however, that doesn't change the fact
DU>that the Plannet Connect service is subject to a whole different
DU>universe of laws and regulation than a private Internet service
DU>provider.
I guess we're agreed that it is not a clearly understood area. But I noticed
in the PCUSENET.TXT that some of the alt.sex groups seem to be included. I
haven't scanned the message packets to see if they are there, though.
Fred.
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TIM HELTON Number: 2740
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/18/94 7:23a
Subj: John Souvestre Refer: 2738
Read: NO Private: No
-> It's especially hard when you have no facts to back up your position.
John (and everybody else), please end this thread. Discussion of
FidoNet policy is off topic unless it relates directly to the Planet
Connect service.
tim
moderator
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2741
To: CHARLES RING Date: 02/17/94 2:11p
Subj: Virus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: Virus
BY: Charles Ring to Mark Krieg on Wed Feb 16 1994 03:08 pm
> SCAN v.111 finds no virus in fasort.lzh.
I'm aware of this... Norton for NetWare has MANY more polymorphic scans
than does the latest McAfee and standard Norton products. None of those
reported this as well. The NLM reported it as a "rare" MtE Encrypted.
Someone said it was a false alarm, but I don't care, better safe than
sorry...
---
* Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2742
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/16/94 12:12a
Subj: Other Nets Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Don Waybright wrote in a message to All:
DW> I have also been assked by local here if ALinks or ADA Net
DW> are planning to go up on the bird.... And if not what is the
DW> procedure for a net to get their mail up on the bird?
I don't know about ALinks, but I asked Bill Freeman (?), then ZC of AdaNet
about it previously via crashmail. Never received a response from him so don't
know what their plans might be in that direction.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- timEd/2-g1
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2743
To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/16/94 12:24a
Subj: Allfix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
David Unfried wrote in a message to Craig Clark:
DU> up the $35 for Allfix. The authors make cavalier efforts to
DU> ensure all downlinks are essentially blackmailed to run
DU> Allfix. Allfix produces .TIC files that are incompatible
DU> with anything else.
David, I've run both Tick & Allfix, and have now been using Allfix for the
past year or so. At least 75% of my downlinks are using Tick, with the
remainder using Seal, Allfix or other similar utilities and thus far none have
reported any incompatibility problems.
DU> Each version has introduced new verbs or changed the ordering of
DU> verbs so they break TICK, Raid, Wildtick, et al. This is my
Could you provide documentation of this as I've never experienced all of
the problems you seem to associate with Allfix even when I myself was running
Tick and *my* uplink was running beta versions of Allfix.
DU> specs and was capable of producing "stoneage" packets. I
DU> sent a complaint to the authors, and their response was
DU> "yes, all downlinks must run allfix. Many satisfied
I don't know who you sent your complaint to, David, as their is only one
author of Allfix that I am aware of (Harald Harms) but I believe you may have
been mistaken or misunderstood him. It has never been necessary that my
downlinks run Allfix in order to process their tick files from my system.
--)@ Patty @(--
--- timEd/2-g1
* Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2744
To: MAX VONDERHORST Date: 02/17/94 4:38a
Subj: Question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <15 Feb 94 20:28:18>, Max Vonderhorst (1:363/320) writes:
MV>FH> I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper
MV>FH> directories.
MV>
MV>Fred, you should upgrade to Qm 1.31. Also unless you want to do two
MV>pass processing or store the messages on your drive you should use the
MV>one pass method where it takes the incoming .PKT files and tosses them
MV>to the outbound
Max, thanks a million for helping out a beginner here. I've archived your
message and will be utilizing your advice right away.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2745
To: RON HERRING Date: 02/17/94 4:43a
Subj: Pc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <16 Feb 94 18:44:00>, Ron Herring (1:18/11) writes:
RH>FH*>On my system, if you use any of the pull-down window features during
RH> *>a file reception, that file will not be stored -- even if it comes
RH> *>through without error indications.
RH>
RH> I can do anything except "Shell" and "Exit" the software without
RH>disturbing the incoming files. I often 'view' the Ulpd.Lst file and
RH>check out the \Sat-In directory to see what is there and what is to
RH>come with no problems. (Looks like your milage varies somewhat)
RH>
RH> The shell is 'dangerous' as it stops the reception but shows no
RH>errors and will finish "PH" because it hasn't shown an error. This is
RH>the only command I never use.
You're right. On further examination, it's the shell that seems to cause the
file to be trashed later *sometimes*. I found out later that it doesn't always
happen.
I've even printed out the UPLD.LST while receiving files without a problem, but
it doesn't always work.
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2746
To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 02/17/94 12:27a
Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message MARTIN BELCKE to DON WAYBRIGHT it was said:
-> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail are
-> are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have
-> inquiryies at to what areas are available..
MB> Fidonet.na and Fidonet.no files will give you what you are
MB> looking for.
Are the AREATAGS in Fidonet.Na/No all carried by PC. No hold out's?
I see where they are designated in Fidonet.No
Rds,
-=Don=-
... Richmond's Satellite Connection
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2747
To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/17/94 12:57p
Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Glenn,
16 Feb 94, 12:42, Glenn Caleval wrote to Floyd Drennon:
GC> Now, had it been left on the file bone there would be no need for
GC> Ronnie to make a special delivery to Boyd, right? So who's zoomin
GC> who?
However, she chose not to put it on the filebone (and to the best of my
understanding, it's never been there). So I fall back to my original
statement. He's making the money, not her, so I don't see a problem with
expecting him to foot the bill.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 2748
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/17/94 6:26p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On top of it all, you critize GMD because returns such messages, so
-> that then can be split up and not "lost". Meanwhile, your own system
-> simply deletes
I've been following this thread and thought until reading this that your
system was just deleting without notification.
If GMD deletes a message, does it always notify the originating node?
Mike
--- QScan v1.061b
* Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe * 219-453-4046 * v32t/HST (1:236/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2749
To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/17/94 11:02a
Subj: ZOOM Conference Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
John,
Is the ZOOM echo available in your region. If so, is it
being feed to PC? If not, can it?
Thanks.
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 2750
To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 02/18/94 4:00a
Subj: Be a TVLIST distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DO> While you guys cater to the single minded sysop and unitary
DO> BBSs, you ignore the transport media at your disposal.
I'm sorry you feel ignored but from this end it feels more like we're
in an explosive growth. The dynamics aren't settled between the need
for MORE DISH SITES and the thorough use of those already in place.
LB>Is my netmail getting out? All you who wrote me saying I should recommend
LB>your board as a source of TVLIST*.ARC to wannabe TV Agent users, I replied
LB>to you. But Boyd & I are new to POINTing and I have no evidence so far
LB>that anybody receives what I route out.
DO> Oh, yeh you're getting out here. This is echomail, "netmail" is a little
DO> different in it's meaning. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse.
Thanks, I do know the difference, and I meant what I said. And now I
HAVE received the netmail replies I asked for so all is well and Boyd must
have known what he was doing all along.
--- PPoint 1.76
* Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2751
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/18/94 7:24p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boyd!
Must we have to read or even weed out this crap about P4's do and
don't about routing of whatever mail in this echo. If so could
you setup a Planet Connect echo that is not a bashing of butheads
that can't even rember that this is not the time or place for
such crap. I could care less about the subject one way or
another but if I did I could always go to the Z1 Electoins an get
my fill there. This is, in my openion, degrading to the concept
of Planet Connect and it is trashing this echo.
Is this a Planet Connect Echo or is it a GMDand P4 arguement
echo. If it is an argurment echo then give us an echo for Planet
Connect and I will turn this one off.
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * Yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE LYDA Number: 2752
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/18/94 7:38p
Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Chuck!
In a message to Dave Petrucci <02/17/94> Chuck Warren wrote:
CW> ->Chuck,
CW> -> My wife and kids promptly reminded me when it was time
CW> -> to renew... they kept saying.. "will you shut that
CW> -> darn PC up, it keeps beeping.." <SMILE>
CW> Gotcha.....mine's in its own room, so it can beep all it wants. Are
CW> you stationed at Dover? I'm from the area, last 2 years of high
CW> school anyways (C.R.).
CW> Chuck
Well mine don't have a speaker. But my wife and kids keep a
close eye on it and let me know anyway.
CW> --- WM v3.10/91-0206
CW> * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053
Joe
* WCE 1.5/2107 * Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself.
--- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081]
* Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2753
To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/19/94 12:38a
Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>-> My wife and kids promptly reminded me when it was time
>-> to renew... they kept saying.. "will you shut that
>-> darn PC up, it keeps beeping.." <SMILE>
> Gotcha.....mine's in its own room, so it can beep all it wants. Are
> you stationed at Dover? I'm from the area, last 2 years of high
> school anyways (C.R.).
Chuck,
I grew up here in Dover and went to Dover High....
Spent my entire service time in Rapid City, SD.
Never thought I'd end up back here in Dover.. 8-)
Dave P.
--- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079)
* Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 2754
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/17/94 5:46p
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Floyd!
15 Feb 94 13:25, Floyd Drennon wrote to Boyd Goodin:
FD> Well, there are two sides to that coin. Most FDNs are non-profit. You
FD> aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should they pay to
FD> send it to you when you're making money from it and they aren't?
Well then there is 3 sides....While PC is for profit it is based on a margin I
would assume that allows them to continue. As with any buisness if the margin
falls one of two things happen. We pay more as the end user or they quit.
While I too would love to have RADIST on the Bird I do understand Boyds
position. Heck I use to be the HQ of RADIST and Choose (aksed) Ronnie to take
it over when things became to busy at work to handle both. I also was the
supply to the filebone so when I dropped that did to...Just FYI
Bert
--- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered
* Origin: ----> Planet Connect System (910)-626-4172 <---- (1:3648/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2755
To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/14/94 6:41p
Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Don!
Sunday February 13 1994 18:28, Don Waybright wrote to All:
DW> Hi All!
DW>
DW> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail areas
DW> that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have
DW> inquiryies at to what areas are available..
Yes.. it's called FIDONET.NA and usually arrives about the same time as the
NODEDIFF.A##
George Vandervort
++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb
--- Alexi/Mail 2.00a3
* Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2756
To: PATRICK MARTIN Date: 02/16/94 2:03a
Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Patrick Martin wrote in FidoNet.PLANET_CONNECT about "OS2NET & ZyXNet":
> I have already seen Greg Shaffer's reply of 9 Feb to your question...
> Let me state for clarification: The ZyXELNET file echos that are on
> Planet_Connect are ZYXTOOL, ZYXTEXT and ZYXELROM. *I* haven't heard a
For now anyways :-)
> thing about the mail feed being distributed via P_C, or any of the
> ZyXELNET administrative file echos for that matter.
As far as I know, nobody has looked into it.
--- IntuiNews 1.1 (16.09.93)
* Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner VBBS 28.8k VFC & 19.2k ZyXEL (1:163/139.2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2757
To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 02/17/94 11:01p
Subj: Re: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message Glenn Vermette to Don Waybright it was said:
GV> Everything that is in the FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO lists
GV> are going over the satellite. Those two files, if you don't
GV> have them, are transmitted once a week....watch for them.
As the Hub for my Net I get these little critters and hatch them to all point
known and unknown... :)
Rds,
-=Don=-
... Richmond's Satellite Connection
--- timEd-B11
* Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/100)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRANK KENNEDY Number: 2758
To: ALL Date: 02/17/94 12:55a
Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just curious.
Is anyone working on bringing the Planet Connect data to UNIX systems?
I have an acquaintance that seems eager to receive Planet Connect so he can get
both FIDO and USENET conferences. He has a UNIX BBS, though
--- GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: (1:124/4115.225)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2759
To: MIKE ATKINSON Date: 02/18/94 1:39p
Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mike.
MA> I've been following this thread and thought until reading this that your
MA> system was just deleting without notification.
Some things, yes. Dupes are an example. Large messages, no.
MA> If GMD deletes a message, does it always notify the originating node?
GMD always when it deletes. Who it notifies has changed, so it depends on
which version you are running. The current version, 3.10, notifies the person
who sent you the message.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2760
To: RON JOHNSTON Date: 02/18/94 1:42p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ron.
RJ> if you guys can't sway either's opinion in several
RJ> rounds of off topic messages in here why don't you ...
Sorry. You are correct. It doesn't seem on-topic here.
There is a GMD echo on the Backbone. I'll be glad to continue there.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2761
To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 02/18/94 1:44p
Subj: ZOOM Conference Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Dave.
DP> Is the ZOOM echo available in your region. If so, is it
DP> being feed to PC? If not, can it?
It is available in most part of R19 now, and all parts very soon (tonight?).
If Boyd would like, I'd be glad to feed it to PC. The echo isn't on the
Backbone yet, but from what I gather it probably will be soon and then I'd be
feeding it to PC anyway.
John
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RONNIE TOTH Number: 2762
To: BERT KENNEDY Date: 02/18/94 12:47a
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bert,
BK> Boyd I have not seen a responce to my question about RADIST and
BK> weather you had contacted Ronnie at HQ? Also what if any policy do you
BK> subscribe to on picking up new feeds from the appropriate HQ? Sure
BK> would like to see it on here...She told me she was waiting to hear
BK> from you.. Thanks and I will wait with great anticipation for your
BK> reply...
I waited for 6 weeks to get a reply from Boyd. He finally returned my
voice messages (expensive at daytime rates) and netmails with a netmail
message.
His response baffled me since he said he did not want to set a precedent
by polling for the files although it is general knowledge that he polls
other FDNs and also has made other "special arrangements" with other
FDNs.
RADIST files can be picked up at any Official RADIST site and the files
are being Gated into RANet, RASSnet, and other nets and are available on
hundreds of systems worldwide. RADIST.ARJ (about 13k) has a current
listing of sites and other info if you are running RA again. :-)
Ronnie
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12
* Origin: Sox! (305) 821-3317 Hialeah_FL_USA (1:135/71)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2763
To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 02/19/94 5:22a
Subj: QUESTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <16 Feb 94 18:31:25>, Jim Dunmyer (1:234/2) writes:
JD>> I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper directories.
JD>> But now I need to know how to purge all those directories. Is there
JD> Upgrade to the latest version of Qmail (1.31gm?). You don't need to
JD>create the directories at all for passthrough stuff, hence no need to
JD>purge.
Thanks for the information, Jim. I'll get a copy of 1.31gm? for sure...
But, just out of curiousity, is there any better way to purge directories if
someone decides to toss the mail?
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2764
To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/19/94 5:33a
Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <18 Feb 94 07:42:23>, Guy VanDell (1:116/80) writes:
GV>FH> I guess we're agreed that it is not a clearly understood
GV>FH> area. But I noticed in the PCUSENET.TXT that some of the
GV>FH> alt.sex groups seem to be included. I haven't scanned the
GV>FH> message packets to see if they are there, though.
GV>
GV>I was wondering, there is another satellite that has the full feed of
GV>usenet on it, including everything. What do they do about the alt.*
GV>groups?
I suppose you are speaking of Pagesat. As far as I know, they carry
everything.
GV>Alt.* groups can be easily created, all one has to do is set it up with
GV>a news server, you don't have to vote or anything.
When I get some time and machine availability, I'll peruse those PCUSENET
packets and see if the alt.sex messages are included.
Just scholarly research, of course. :-)
Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}..
--- QM v1.00
* Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE REED Number: 2765
To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/18/94 5:04p
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Floyd!
Tuesday February 15 1994 13:25, Floyd Drennon wrote to Boyd Goodin:
FD> Well, there are two sides to that coin. Most FDNs are non-profit. You
FD> aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should they pay to
FD> send it to you when you're making money from it and they aren't?
And, as a profit-seeking enterprise, it is well within their right to do
whatever they want. Don't lose track of what they're doing. They're not
distributing mail because it makes them feel good (unless I misunderstand their
objective). If they don't pick up an FDN when they should have, the market
will let them know by diminishing sales. It's as simple as that, unless you're
a socialist. ;-)
Later,
Dave
--- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214+
* Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata, WA * v32b/H16 (1:3415/11)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2766
To: BERT KENNEDY Date: 02/19/94 12:06p
Subj: Again Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Bert,
17 Feb 94, 17:46, Bert Kennedy wrote to Floyd Drennon:
BK> Well then there is 3 sides....While PC is for profit it is based on
BK> a margin I would assume that allows them to continue. As with any
BK> buisness if the margin falls one of two things happen. We pay more
BK> as the end user or they quit.
Don't you think they take that into consideration. Looks as if they have so
far when they keep adding additional costs for additional services. Why should
this be any different?
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DAVE JAMES Number: 2767
To: JOHN PAUL Date: 02/20/94 9:12a
Subj: ALLFIX Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
John Paul wrote in a message to Roy Timberman:
JP> Yes ... but if any of your downlinks are running Raid, THEY
JP> are having problems as a result of AllFix's "features" that
JP> are breaking the existing software. That was the point
JP> being made ... the author of AllFix apparently feels (based
JP> on previous messages I've seen here) that by breaking
JP> existing installations he'll coerce more people into using
JP> AllFix. Personally, I'd rather see it banned from the
JP> network until it is made backwards compatible with
JP> older/other programs, as I *hate* to be "blackmailed" into
JP> running a particular program just to avoid the problems that
JP> the program itself creates.
JP> Just one opinion ...
Add mine to that, if someone comes along and invents new software that is not
backwards compatible, then it should be banned from use, period!
Echomail processors and netmail routing software, along with ARChivers and the
protocols one uses on the mailer front-ends are being held to the same
standards
Then why isn't this new 'feature' filled app not you ask... good question...
Raid and Tick work fine for me over here, and I carry *ALL* file/echo areas on
the fidonet backbone/filebone, and then some... I've used it for as many years
as George Peace as released it, including beta products, his applications are
rock solid.
Dave
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: ─═[ 'dBest, Western Star, 702.656.2482 Hayes V.FC ]═─ (1:209/209)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2768
To: PAUL MALLETT Date: 02/21/94 2:02p
Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Paul Mallett wrote in a message to Frank Kennedy:
PM> machine. There are PD TCP/IP packages for DOS that would
PM> connect the server to a Unix machine via Ethernet. Ideally
PM> that's the best solution outside of native Unix software,
PM> but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
Can you sugguest a source for some of these tcp/ip programs.
I have been running a dos program that works with the newsgroup
message format, and its got some bad limitations...
---
* Origin: Galaxy/Star Systems (1:170/10011)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOE OVERHOLT Number: 2769
To: ALL Date: 02/22/94 1:28a
Subj: NEW REVISION TO MASTER.DIR AREA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There have been several changes recently to the MASTER.DIR file and the related
files with it. Check your Skydata\Personal directory for this file and others.
Boyd Goodin will be out of the office for the rest of this week. His father
passed away last Saturday.
--- DB B2106/004770
* Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ROY TIMBERMAN Number: 2770
To: DAVE JAMES Date: 02/21/94 9:05a
Subj: ALLFIX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DJ>Raid and Tick work fine for me over here, and I carry *ALL*
DJ>file/echo areas on the fidonet backbone/filebone, and then
DJ>some... I've used it for as many years as George Peace as
DJ>released it, including beta products, his applications are rock
DJ>solid.
They may be working fine for you but I broke them a long time
ago. They have not been sufficiently updated to handle the
volume available now to the public. TICK has a 100 node limit
which caused me to do a double run copying the files to a second
working directory before starting. I deliver mail to 165 nodes.
Tick quit working a couple of years ago.
Raid doesn't seem to like the large number of file areas. I have
500+ file areas on line now and I just went ahead and put up
ALLFIX when I took over the filebone distribution. Since tick
was choking on the 165 nodes I didn't have much hope for raid
working. George does do good work and I appreaciate it. But it
didn't go far enough in these cases.
I'm neither a fan of Raid/Tick or ALLFIX and in fact I would have
recommended the Raid/Tick combo for a simple run of the mill net.
I cannot afford that luxury now since ALLFIX is the only thing
that I've found that handles the information that I need to
handle. And I will say that it appears to handle it flawlessly.
It also does some things that I could not have possibly hoped for
and does them elegantly also.
If having the program that I am using work then I guess that
would entice me to be a fan of it. I care about functionality
here and have of course registered the ALLFIX program.
Roy Timberman
1:280/1
NEC
* 1st 1.11 #106bt * How you look depends on where you go.
--- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c]
* Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2771
To: ART MACK Date: 02/21/94 6:03p
Subj: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AM> John, I tried the 1.99beta that came over the bird, the
AM> -fTIC option did
AM> not seem to work properly, it only moved the TIC files and
The code was completed in a later version, that has been sent over the bird in
the PCUTILS file area, you can also freq magic name PCFU at here for the
latest update.
John...
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 2772
To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/21/94 5:34p
Subj: AD FILES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boyd, are the AD files still restricted, or can we make them avail to our
downlinks ?
Regards
Jerry
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Techtalk BBS, Cocoa, FL 407-635-8833 (1:374/1)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2773
To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/21/94 5:19p
Subj: QUESTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Thanks for the information, Jim. I'll get a copy of 1.31gm? for
> sure...
>
> But, just out of curiousity, is there any better way to purge
> directories if someone decides to toss the mail?
I used to use Bob Hartman's RENUMBER program when I tossed a few echos on the
mail muncher, and it worked OK. It's easier for me to just pass them along to
the BBS and let the purge functions on there take care of it.
--- FLAME v1.0
* Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL WOLF Number: 2774
To: MICHAEL JAMES Date: 02/19/94 5:12p
Subj: Another Test! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ok... Hello everyone. I'm just testing this Planet
> Connect Setup. I'd appreciate a reply. Yeah I
How's it going Michael.. Seems to be working fine here..
TakeCare,
Bill
--- GEcho/386 1.02+
* Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BILL HAYES Number: 2775
To: ALLEN CRAVENER Date: 02/21/94 11:22p
Subj: Re: GMD Program and Plane Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Allen Cravener to Joe Lyda <=-
AC> I was delighted when I discovered the Planet Connect Echo.
[..]
AC> I'm frankly just about sick of reading this junk.
Agh, some sense to the topic I can understand...
Whew, I was getting worried there for awhile I had gone sane...
... Abolish mornings, ReRoute Mid-days, and Party Harty in the Evening!
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: Master Of Illusion (214) 272-7599 (1:124/5115)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2776
To: MIKE LESTER Date: 02/22/94 8:30p
Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> PM> machine. There are PD TCP/IP packages for DOS that would
> PM> connect the server to a Unix machine via Ethernet. Ideally
> PM> that's the best solution outside of native Unix software,
> PM> but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
>
> Can you sugguest a source for some of these tcp/ip programs.
>
> I have been running a dos program that works with the newsgroup
> message format, and its got some bad limitations...
You could always look at KA9Q, Mike...
--==jb==--
---
* Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2777
To: ALL Date: 02/22/94 4:37a
Subj: PCFU and changed files Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I seem to be having troubles with the fmlyecho.$$$ files coming in off the sat,
PCFU keeps moving them to the safe directory before tick has a chance to toss
them.
Should I reset the dup X function lower?
Russell
--- GoldED 2.42.G1219+
* Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2778
To: JOHN BURTON Date: 02/23/94 11:41p
Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
john burton wrote in a message to Mike Lester:
jb> You could always look at KA9Q, Mike...
Whats this? I have not heard of it.. give me a name if you have it
and i will freq it...
---
* Origin: Galaxy (1:170/10011)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: PAUL MALLETT Number: 2779
To: MIKE LESTER Date: 02/22/94 7:18p
Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ML> Can you sugguest a source for some of these tcp/ip
ML> programs.
ML> I have been running a dos program that works with the
ML> newsgroup message format, and its got some bad
ML> limitations...
Ah, the best place to look would be on the Internet. Try ftp.wustl.edu - I
don't remember the directory structure off the top of my head, something like
/systems/msdos/networking perhaps.
Also possibly wsmr-simtel20.army.mil.
Off of the Internet? I'm not sure where you can look
--- timEd/2-B11
* Origin: Radio Free Echomail! 401.941.7851 (1:323/123)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------